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Hi,<div><br></div><div>I can see two objectives here.</div><div>First objective is to have a high installation success rate.</div><div>And second objective is to have happy users from both camps; the GNU-purists-camp and the don't-care-camp.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think the GNU-purists-camp is a minority here, but I could be wrong, I never counted them. For them I would make a pure installation DVDs of all editions, like Desktop, Server, Live, etc. I bet all purists are expert Linux users and they know enough about their hardware and if there are GNU drivers for it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>On the other hand, the don't-care-camp needs stuff that works. They don't care where it comes from, and they never read the messages. They just click through. For them I would make a mixed DVD with pre-selected components that have higher success rate. For example, if we know that non-free radeon drivers install better than the free ones, don't ask the user at all just go ahead and install the non-free version.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This way, we are making the users choose early way before they start installing.</div><div><br></div><div>I would also call those editions like this:</div><div><br></div><div> 1g) Mageia 3 Server (G) Installation DVD i686 - Includes GNU drivers</div>
<div><br></div><div><div> 1v) Mageia 3 Server (V) Installation DVD i686 - Includes Vendor drivers</div></div><div><br></div><div>We would also say "If you don't know which to choose, go for Vendor editions"</div>
<div><br></div><div>I think providing free and non-free installation media will increase Mageia's quality and reputation. But, everything must be in a single DVD because there are laptops, servers, and desktops with Broadcom PHY's and they can't get supplemental DVD's or packages without a working network card or wifi.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Putting them all together in a single non-free DVD will increase the installation success rate for sure.</div><div><br></div><div>And at last let me introduce my self.</div><div>My name is Agron Selimaj. I am an experienced Linux user and programmer. I have 11 years of Linux experience and I am a Mandriva Powerpack user since 2006 or 2007. I am a professional C++ programmer for Windows, Linux embedded and Linux Desktops at my day job.</div>
<div>I like the spirit of Mageia creators and I would like to join you. At the moment, I am an apprentice candidate waiting for a mentor to guide me through package creation process, bug fixing, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>
//Agron</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Angelo Naselli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anaselli@linux.it" target="_blank">anaselli@linux.it</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">mercoledì 30 maggio 2012 alle 16:38, Johnny A. Solbu ha scritto:<br>
<div><div class="h5">> On Wednesday 30 May 2012 16:20, Angelo Naselli wrote:<br>
> > If you really mean that you should also remove non-free repositories etc...<br>
> > I don't think being a don Quijote is that good... always imho of course.<br>
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> They do exactly that. They do not have any non-free repo. They have a policy that do not allow any non-free software (programs, drivers, firmware etc.) in their distributions, and they don't have any exceptions.<br>
> Some might find this silly and stupid. But they live by the rule that every software should be Free. If it is not, they will not use it because they can't do what they want with it.<br>
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> My point is just that there really do exist several distributions that do not allow any non-free software in their repositories. if they don't have any non-free software there is no point in having an empty non-free repo. The way Thierry listed the two categories he seemed to suggest that there where no such distributions.<br>
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</div></div>That's sounds different of course, i thought you referred to us ;)<br>
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