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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)</H1>
<B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B>
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<I>Fri May 4 17:38:26 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Le 4 mai 2012 17:19, "Wolfgang Bornath" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> a écrit :
><i>
</I>><i> 2012/5/4 Dimitrios Glentadakis <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>>:
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Le 4 mai 2012 16:29, "Thomas Backlund" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>> a écrit :
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> 04.05.2012 17:27, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
</I>><i> >> > On 4 May 2012 16:19, Felix Miata <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mrmazda at earthlink.net</A>> wrote:
</I>><i> >> >> Mageia's installer has the same problem that bothers me in Mandriva.
</I>><i> >> >> The
</I>><i> >> >> type install screen with KDE vs Gnome vs custom has no intermediate
</I>><i> >> >> step
</I>><i> >> >> prior to the start of selected packages installation. Does this
</I>bother
><i> >> >> no
</I>><i> >> >> one else?
</I>><i> >> >
</I>><i> >> > Too late to report.
</I>><i> >> > When people will cease to do ala Gael tests aka just before the
</I>final?
><i> >>
</I>><i> >> Well, only too late for mga2, but it can get on wishlist for mga3
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >> --
</I>><i> >> Thomas
</I>><i> >>
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Another case is when you install in the existing partitions and in the
</I>><i> > partitioning screen you choose the partitions, /, /home, etc, and you
</I>have
><i> > checked in the checkbox a partition to be formatted.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > It seems very logical to me that in this step a confirmation is more
</I>than
><i> > usefull.
</I>><i> > Before a 2-3 years there was a brainstorm in mandriva and i had
</I>proposed the
><i> > usage of confirmation dialogues. I cannot find the link now, but the
</I>answers
><i> > that i got was like 'you click on OK so you have to be sure', 'no
</I>needed,
><i> > useless feature' etc.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > If there will be a brainstorm in mageia, i would like to try to propose
</I>it
><i> > again.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Do you think you will get a different result? Look at Microsoft.
</I>><i> People were so annoyed by all these "Are you sure" popups that
</I>><i> comedians started to refer to these popups in their standup sessions
</I>><i> ("Do you really want to use the brake pedal?"). AFAIR there hasn't
</I>><i> been such a popup at the situations you pointed to as long as
</I>><i> Mandrake/Mandriva existed. I haven't heard anybody complaining about
</I>><i> this (until today).
</I>><i> About the selection screens:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> For me the first selection screen (KDE - Gnome - Custom) serves the
</I>><i> new user who wants to get on with the installation without any
</I>><i> interactive stuff he would not know how to handle it. So the screen
</I>><i> presents 2 options which will get him a standard system with one
</I>><i> click. Everybody else is surely able to understand the word "Custom"
</I>><i> which opens the door to everything else. The next screen offers a
</I>><i> package selection which allows for installation of whole groups (or
</I>><i> non-installation). This same screen opens the door to the minimal
</I>><i> installation options (if you deselect all package groups). It also
</I>><i> shows the option "Individual package selection".
</I>><i>
</I>><i> To me this is a logical procedure (one step following the selection of
</I>><i> the previous step).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Of course Mageia could put something like "Clicking OK will start the
</I>><i> installation" below the KDE and Gnome options or something similar.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> About the partitioning:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> What exactly do you miss there (you have seen the "expert" button?) ?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> IMHO there is nothing missing or at presented at the wrong state of
</I>><i> the installation procedure.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> --
</I>><i> wobo
</I>
In the specific case i mentionned, there is a risc of loosing data, so i
think that it is usefull to prevent. Why you are informed when you switch
to expert mode in diskdrake?
Twice i avoided to delete the /home partition. To prevent other users, in
the greek translation i add the 'formatting (delete data)'
For "us" there is no risc. Because we install a system many times. The
scenario that i describe could happen if you do an installation for the
first time or if you are not used to do it often.
Personaly i dont care, it is very clear for me, but i remember my first
time when i "felt" that a confirmation was missing.
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