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<B>Steven Tucker</B>
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<I>Mon Jul 2 04:24:35 CEST 2012</I>
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<PRE>Okay, so as promised I am ready to start on MCC2.
I have had a play with libYui that is in Cauldron, so using C++, to
create a window and buttons.
Ready to get going on the real code, but waiting on the Perl bindings to
hit Cauldron.
I'll start writing out some formal plans, but I have been giving some
thought to the code and am starting to form a general overview of how I
think it could be coded.
I'll report back once the perl binding arrive and I have some code and
plans ready.
Cheers
Steven
On 28/06/12 09:38, Steven Tucker wrote:
><i> Hi Angelo,
</I>><i>
</I>><i> great to see you put your hand up.
</I>><i> My position at the moment, is to get through this week at work, then
</I>><i> starting Monday begin work on this project.
</I>><i> The first step is to port the relevant libYui and related libraries
</I>><i> which is what I had planned to work on next week, but if Matteo is
</I>><i> working on this then that will work out great (I am just an apprentice
</I>><i> with only 2 packages to date, so perhaps not the best person for that
</I>><i> job).
</I>><i>
</I>><i> To begin with, I planned to make a basic proof of concept Control
</I>><i> Centre, so just simply a copy of the current main window of MCC but
</I>><i> without any functionality, just to see it work across the widget sets.
</I>><i> Then work on a single module to work out some standards and
</I>><i> documentation, how to make it as easy as possible for others to come
</I>><i> along and add a module.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I understand the desire to have everything in the one language (and
</I>><i> the obvious choice is perl due to inertia), however I am not
</I>><i> personally against individual modules being in python/perl/C++, the
</I>><i> reason is that there are people who potentially would add a module but
</I>><i> don't want to use a language they are not familiar with and would only
</I>><i> use for that module and nothing else. So I guess I would like to give
</I>><i> options so that entry to contribution is as easy as it can be. This
</I>><i> all started for me when I looked into writing a module I wanted but
</I>><i> found very little documentation, and realised it would be more work to
</I>><i> make my module available in curses as well at gtk.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As far as other contributors, I only have one willing to dive into
</I>><i> code, but it is very convenient as we work together (We just finished
</I>><i> setting up our new Mageia Cluster and so now are ready for more Mageia
</I>><i> goodness :-P ) so a very small group at the moment, but to be honest,
</I>><i> I think that is probably a good thing in the early stages.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> As I said, I have to get through this week at work first, a week of
</I>><i> deadlines, but then I can start writing some more concrete plans, and
</I>><i> start playing with the code.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I'll make contact again in a few days when I am ready to get going.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Cheers
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Tuxta
</I>><i>
</I>><i> On 28/06/12 08:02, Angelo Naselli wrote:
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</I>>><i> Hi,
</I>>><i> I'm back to this subject, because, as you probably know, the
</I>>><i> proposal[1] has been accepted[2] and has to be merged with mine[3]
</I>>><i> and discussed a bit to understand what we have to do and who can help.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Il 13/06/2012 14:35, Steven Tucker ha scritto:
</I>>>><i> This proposal may be a bit different to the several others you
</I>>>><i> have seen in that a lot of the heavy lifting has already been done.
</I>>>><i> The Ui layer is provided by libYui and friends, and the logic is
</I>>>><i> already there in mcc. With the perl bindings to libYui the effort
</I>>>><i> is no where near as large as a rewrite, which I imagine the several
</I>>>><i> other proposals were. I would prefer it all to be written in C++,
</I>>>><i> but that would be more work than adapting the current perl code, so
</I>>>><i> you see it's not just pie in the sky, I have actually put some
</I>>>><i> thought into it.
</I>>><i> In a first read i understood the idea was to provide a new gui
</I>>><i> abstraction layer, and you told me the suggested libYui library
</I>>><i> is written in C++ with some script bindings (one for all perl) and
</I>>><i> since I'm not a perl programmer and i know C++ and QT (something on GTk
</I>>><i> also) i could help.
</I>>><i> So should i assume you want to rewrite all?
</I>>><i> Steven, can you please point me and other potential contributors
</I>>><i> to your plans?
</I>>><i> Planning is also needed to our proposal to be definitely accepted :)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> I don't have a lot of spare time, but i will help as much as possible.
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Matteo Pasotti is adding libyui to mageia repository so we could
</I>>><i> start using it, I do also believe he's going to help us as well :)
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Let's start this new adventure...
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Cheers,
</I>>><i> Angelo
</I>>><i>
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</I>>><i> [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:UiAbstraction4mcc</A>
</I>>><i> [2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/FeatureMageia3_Review</A>
</I>>><i> [3] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:DrakXtoolsReview">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Feature:DrakXtoolsReview</A>
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