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<H1>[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories</H1>
<B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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<I>Thu Feb 24 23:09:37 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote:
><i> Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
</I>>><i> On 24.02.2011 18:57, Tux99 wrote:
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i>
</I>>>><i> Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Thu, 24 February 2011 13:27
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 10:06 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> I don't think so. Several Mandriva releases ago, there was no such
</I>>>>>><i> "More"
</I>>>>>><i> entry, but real sub-categories in the menu. Then it changed for
</I>>>>>><i> what we have
</I>>>>>><i> now, but that wasn't a change in the .desktop files, rather a menu
</I>>>>>><i>
</I>>>>>><i> configuration. I guess that was a decision meant to bring
</I>>>>>><i> "simplicity",
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> Yes, and that's a choice that can be backed by several studies on the
</I>>>>><i> subject, the working memory have been estimated to be 7 chunks of
</I>>>>><i> information ( between 5 and 9 is a wildly accepted range ). I remember
</I>>>>><i> having seen a studie saying that it was less than this, but I cannot
</I>>>>><i> find it ( and it was on slashdot, so this may have been wrong ).
</I>>>>><i>
</I>>>>><i> So presenting only ~7 chunks of information ( ie ~7 items in menu ) is
</I>>>>><i> better according to the current cognitive model used, such as this one
</I>>>>><i> :
</I>>>>><i> <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_information_processor_model">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_information_processor_model</A>
</I>>><i>
</I>>><i> Eh, isn't that a reason to switch *back* to the two-level system, not to
</I>>><i> keep the current system?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I do not think so. What chunk of informations do you take in account ?
</I>
No chunks, just items in menu.
>><i> I have about 15-30 entries in everyone of Internet, Office, Audio/Video,
</I>>><i> Tools, Tools->System submenus.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> By submenu, you mean the "more" submenu ? I fail to understand what do
</I>><i> you have exactly, can you provides a screenshot ?
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No, I mean menu entries directly under those menus.
<A HREF="http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu1.png">http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu1.png</A>
<A HREF="http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu2.png">http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu2.png</A>
IMHO too many entries there. With two levels I think at least the number
of entries/submenus directly under the Internet menu would be
significantly reduced.
>><i> With a two-level system it would be considerably less and closer to the
</I>>><i> ~7 you mention.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Depend, what is the process that you are wanting to improve ?
</I>><i> ( and closer is not good enough, even if 15 is nearer to 7 than 20,
</I>><i> that's still too much and a different process is used ( according to
</I>><i> studies ))
</I>
No idea. IMO finding the wanted application is faster when it goes
Internet => 5-7 submenus => each with 2-5 app entries
instead of the current
Internet => 20 app entries, plus 10 more in "More"
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Anssi Hannula
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