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   <H1>[Mageia-dev] qemu new upstream release (1.0-rc1) and should we move from qemu-kvm to qemu?</H1>
    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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<PRE>Le samedi 12 novembre 2011 &#224; 21:11 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
&gt;<i> On 12.11.2011 20:20, Michael Scherer wrote:
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 12 novembre 2011 &#224; 16:44 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; There is also one important patch missed in Mageia -
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2011-11/msg00787.html">http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2011-11/msg00787.html</A> it's
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dependency for the GNS3 simulator. OpenSUSE already includes it
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=qemu&amp;project=openSUSE%3ATools">https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=qemu&amp;project=openSUSE%3ATools</A>
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If nobody is against I will do it and contact the maintainer (misc).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I prefer to wait on the stable release ( ie, no rc1 ).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We will wait on stable version of qemu.
</I>&gt;<i> OK
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And no patch unless it comes from upstream ( and even, I am not keen on
</I>&gt;<i> &gt; backporting feature, better wait for stable release ).
</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
</I>&gt;<i> GNS3 is already in stable! This package is broken - no dynamips (=no 
</I>&gt;<i> router emulation at all...), no patched qemu (no virtualization support 
</I>&gt;<i> at all...) According to the developers and their online documentation 
</I>&gt;<i> for package maintainers <A HREF="http://forum.gns3.net/post11571.html">http://forum.gns3.net/post11571.html</A> UDP patched 
</I>&gt;<i> Qemu is dependency/very important.
</I>
The fact that someone pushed a broken package is not a good reason to
add patches to qemu.  We have too many patches on a general scale, and I
do not want to end with a 2nd package like gdb. 

Patches make harder to upgrade, harder to make sure security is done
correctly, and harder to ensure stuff are working ( since we are on our
own when we patch something ).

So for the patches, make sure it is upstream  ( and given the discussion
on ml, it should be soon ) and then in a tarball ( again, given that's a
rc 1, that should be ok soon ).

&gt;<i> We must fix the package and provide at least not so heavy broken ones...
</I>&gt;<i> 
</I>&gt;<i> I've prepared new version of GNS3, included into svn dynamips and 
</I>&gt;<i> xdotool (this one suggested) - these I can maintain with my mentor, so I 
</I>&gt;<i> ask for patch qemu in stable versus UDP support.
</I>
Updates are not supposed to get new features, so that's no. And again,
maybe people could do more tests before pushing broken rpm to stable
( like gsn3 ). 
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Michael Scherer

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