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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Update of backport, policy proposal</H1>
<B>Michael Scherer</B>
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<PRE>Le dimanche 26 juin 2011 à 11:43 +0200, Daniel Kreuter a écrit :
><i> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:58 AM, atilla ontas <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tarakbumba at gmail.com</A>> wrote:
</I>><i>
</I>><i> > Hi. I'm following this threat from the very beginning. While reading,
</I>><i> > i feel i'm reading a Mandriva Cooker mailing list posts. As a
</I>><i> > community distro, why Mageia developers still think like a Mandriva
</I>><i> > employee? Why backports and why so many policies, like a commercial
</I>><i> > enterprise distro? I mean, Mageia do not have paid developers to work
</I>><i> > on packages all the time. Also Mageia do not have so many packagers
</I>><i> > like Fedora or Ubuntu, So, why make so many things so hard?
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > As wobo mentioned, people like latest and greatest software. I think,
</I>><i> > except a few users will use unofficial 3rd party repos to get latest
</I>><i> > software. While i was maintaining MVT (Mandriva Turkiye) repository,
</I>><i> > our users asked for GNOME 2.32 while Mandriva have GNOME 2.30 on
</I>><i> > official release.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> > Personally i always hate the backports structure and policy. It
</I>><i> > confuses minds. Why Mageia need a backports repo, i really do not
</I>><i> > understand. Stability and bug free releases are of course a must. But
</I>><i> > it needs developers dedicated to work, almost paid developers. If a
</I>><i> > software do not related with core system, like vlc, it should included
</I>><i> > updates repo. Let upstream fix bugs and security issues. If a packager
</I>><i> > catchs a bug he should send a patch to upstream and wait for a new
</I>><i> > release. Otherwise, it is not packaging it is coding, which many
</I>><i> > potential packgers will avoid to contribute.
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> >
</I>><i> +1 I also see no usage of backports. I'm someone quite new to
</I>><i> Mandriva/Mageia so I wouldn't know what backports are for (Ubuntu has
</I>><i> nothing like this, Fedora too) so why backport?
</I>
It was already explained why in another thread, and this was also
answered in the various thread about mirror layout, on the Mandriva page
about it on the wiki, on the mailling list at that time, and on various
others documentation sources.
I really do not have the luxury to explain from scratch everything, so
please look at the archive of the ml.
And speaking of Ubuntu, there is :
<A HREF="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports</A>
( or <A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/Backports">http://wiki.debian.org/Backports</A> for Debian, or the proposal ( that
stalled, as said in another thread ) for Fedora :
<A HREF="https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/515">https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/515</A> , due to
<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision</A> )
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Michael Scherer
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