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<H1>[Mageia-dev] Package adoption campaign, 3 months later</H1>
<B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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<I>Wed Dec 14 23:27:20 CET 2011</I>
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<PRE>Op woensdag 14 december 2011 23:19:40 schreef Michael Scherer:
><i> Le samedi 10 décembre 2011 à 12:14 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
</I>><i> > You're explaining why having orphan packages is bad and it's hard to
</I>><i> > disagree, but I fail to see why such a mailing list for people who are
</I>><i> > ready to devote some time to orphan packages would make things worse.
</I>><i> > It's not because it's not the ideal solution that it's bad, is it?
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Because such a mailling list would just incite people to add package and
</I>><i> never remove them, because "that's not really unmaintained, that's
</I>><i> collectively maintained". Which is just a non sense.
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like mysql
><i> That's how it was in Mandriva, so the proposition is just not helping.
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</I>><i> Each time a cleaning was attempted, someone said "but come on, we are
</I>><i> taking care of it collectively, so you cannot remove, it could still
</I>><i> help". And so almost nothing was removed.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> I see no reason to think it will be different. Same situation, same
</I>><i> spirit, same users, same outcome.
</I>><i>
</I>><i> Either people agree that we should have no orphans, and then the list is
</I>><i> useless, or they think we should keep orphans, and then this is causing
</I>><i> issues. Middle ground ( like "let's keep orphan for X months" ) are just
</I>><i> a variation of the first one, and so we would just be discussing the
</I>><i> duration.
</I>
imho this mailing list is only good to notify other of maintainer who aren't
active with their package, and to let people see: "oops, this one is
unmaintained, but i need it, so i'll maintain it."
so imo it should contain information: maintainership (if any), # bugs, perhaps
even other packages that require or buildrequire it...
i think this mailing list would be good, (not only for having no maintainer)
><i> So let's try to make a proposal, if there is a list, after how many
</I>><i> months should a package be removed from the repository if not maintained
</I>><i> ( and by maintained, I do not say "not changes or anything", I really
</I>><i> mean "no one listed as maintainer" ) ?
</I>
otoh, this is difficult, eg:
mysql have no maintainer atm
i want to provide mariadb as alternative, and be maintainer of that. (and drop
mysql)
but a convergence time is required, imho.
so, i would say, packages could be dropped if no maintainer is set for 3
months unless someone is doing the work to get this dropped as a result of
something else.
agreed?
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