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At best, it would just mean, more "isolated"/delegable. + +><i> Non integrated because that use a totally different system ( ie gem/rvm +</I>><i> vs rpm/urpmi ) with totally different versions ( ie, defined by coders +</I>><i> instead of the one agreed when we decided to use the distribution ), +</I>><i> totally different update mechanism, and with different requirements. +</I> +Perfectly aware of that. Or we could as well host it somewhere else, +just to host the application on a matching stack. I'm not saying it's +the best solution, but it may be a temporary option to keep open. + +><i> Another option that I consider would be to use another stack. Nanar +</I>><i> already told me that he would be able to do it quite fast in catalyst, +</I>><i> and I consider myself being able to do it in django without much problem +</I>><i> if I dedicate enough time ( I am quite rusty but for a simple CRUD +</I>><i> application, it would be quite ok ). +</I> +Obviously we still have to learn to let it go at some times, delegate, +welcome newcomers and new ideas, new stacks, if we want ever to grow +the whole thing. It has a cost (flexibility and work), sure, but it +has a payback too. + +Look here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#list_of_registered_people">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=web#list_of_registered_people</A> + +There's a huge pool of skills in PHP, Ruby and Django, comparatively +to Perl (that is quoted only once). + +It's not by sticking to a single stack mostly only handled by +sysadmins (Catalyst in this case) that we will achieve that delegation +and growth. I'm not saying it's crap, I'm saying it does not fit the +pool of volunteers we have for contributions in web development. + +That's precisely why I suggested that other stacks may be considered +(Rails, Django, Symfony) for maintainers db. Because it first more our +volunteers. + +><i> And well, the equivalent with dreamhost would be you to ask them to keep +</I>><i> a custom or old version of rails just for you. I am not sure they would +</I>><i> say "yes". +</I> +Sure. But they may have to keep up with updates at some pace because +there is competition on this ground with other hosting services. And +that forces developers, sometimes, to migrate their apps to higher +revisions. + +But it's not the same context as here. Still, and this is why I asked +Kosmas to see with packagers, it would help somehow to find a +solution, if sustainable, to get packages a little bit more up to +date. In this regard, it helps maintainers to have feedback from +developers I guess. + + +Romain +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000138.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000140.html">[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#139">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#139">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#139">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#139">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |