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+ <H1>[Mageia-webteam] Initial hosting requirements for maintainers db</H1>
+ <B>Kosmas Chatzimichalis</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 12 11:10:15 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 12 January 2011 09:36, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:36, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 &#224; 23:07 +0000, Kosmas Chatzimichalis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The initial requirements for installing the maintainers db in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia server are: [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1. RVM (Ruby version manager)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From what I know, that would likely mean compiling our own ruby version
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the server, using its own separate set of gems. In term of work, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would like adding a specific chroot, or a special vm of a different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution just to host the application. ( different distribution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> since that would be totally unintegrated with the rest of the servers )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's the possible alternative?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>By using RVM, we won't need a chroot environment for gem installation
+as installation can be done in a user's account.
+Consequent gem installations don't need sudo permission and are
+installed on user's account.
+Some information about the installation is here:
+
+<A HREF="http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/">http://rvm.beginrescueend.com/rvm/install/</A>
+
+I also believe that the actual ruby installation is handled by the rvm.
+
+Alternatively, the ruby version needed is either 1.8.7 or 1.9.2, but
+that will actually depend on the rails version used.
+
+
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2. Rubygems (1.3.7)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3. Rails (3.0.3)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...] This would mean for the moment rails 2.3.10
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and ruby-RubyGems 1.3.5.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kosmas, can you backport your app to these versions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Can definitely try Romain.
+
+Just as a note dreamhost updated all their servers to 3.0.3 and
+RubyGems 1.3..6 in a matter of few weeks, and although I don't know if
+they had problems, I'm sure that they are security conscious about
+their servers as well.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Moreover, using distribution rpm give everybody the same set of module
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to work with, if the need to host/develop multiple rails applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> arise ( and I think we cannot exclude this possibility ) without having
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to have 1 set of gems per application. And again, we will not need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handle security ourself ( or at least, no need to do the hard work as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is the goal of the security team ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about seeing with ruby packagers about this? (Kosmas?)
+</I>
+I can see about that Romain, but using Rails 3 makes gem installation
+and dependency solving much easier.
+Any suggestion about who I should be contacting?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 5. Passenger (Apache mod_rails)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I told in my answer on the git topic, could we avoid using passenger,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and switch to fastcgi ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kosmas, can you check this?
+</I>
+Yes, this one shouldn't be a problem as I don't have to deal with the
+server setup, although having used fastcgi in the past, I can remember
+having issues with loading of the application and sometimes not
+responding.
+But if Michael is willing to look after that it shouldn't be a problem.
+
+Kosmas
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