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+ <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] questions about our infrastructure setup &amp; costs</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Tue Apr 3 08:06:18 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 02 avril 2012 &#224; 22:12 +0200, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Monday, 2 April 2012 16:59:59 Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le lundi 02 avril 2012 &#224; 15:23 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+</I>
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 2) have a quick report, automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; about this (not only for sysadmin, but for all users of our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; infrastructure).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do think for me that the current report of xymon are sufficient.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is some room for enhancements, but that requires a bit more knowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> regarding real (physical) dependencies than I have at present.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can maybe add some examples which don't require that knowledge, so others
+</I>&gt;<i> can add some more.
+</I>
+Yes, do not hesitate.
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; And of course, most of them have metered network connections that would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe not be suitable for something like valstar, who act as a primary
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mirror. For reference, since we have started the server :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; RX bytes:453228974131 (422.1 GiB)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; TX bytes:9311461347504 (8.4 TiB)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Uptime is 60 days.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's around 4 T per month of transfert.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How much of this is internal to the hosting provider?
+</I>
+I have no idea. That's hard to say because on one hand, valstar serve as
+mirror for builder, so there is lots of traffic. on the other hand, we
+act as main mirror ( so traffic is duplicated 3/4 ), so every new rpms
+and iso would be sent too.
+As well as every tarball upload and download, from builder and from
+packagers.
+
+Since RX would be &quot;isos from rabbit + rpms build from jonund/ecosse +
+tarball sent from packager&quot;, and TX is &quot;isos sent to mirrors + rpms to
+mirrors + chroot installation&quot;, I cannot give any realistic estimation.
+
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> A)That we should be able to know when our network connection is down?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO, the hosting provider should be monitoring this (our data center business
+</I>&gt;<i> does this for all managed hosting customers). If the hosting provider is not
+</I>&gt;<i> able to do that, then our options are:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1)Monitor servers in one location from servers in another, and ensure that
+</I>&gt;<i> they can inform us without requiring the servers in the first location to be
+</I>&gt;<i> available
+</I>&gt;<i> 2)Monitor the network interfaces etc. from inside the network, but have a non-
+</I>&gt;<i> network notification system, such as SMS modem, or old cell-phone (Nokia 5110
+</I>&gt;<i> was the usual choice a few years ago). Alternatively, a 3G dongle for IP-based
+</I>&gt;<i> access could be considered.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (note that so far, there is minimal cost involved)
+</I>
+Monitoring is nice, but that's not a end. That doesn't serve much if we
+cannot act on it :/
+
+Usually, people see quite fast that everything is down.
+--
+Michael Scherer
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