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Then, CatDap and slapo-constraint could use the same data. + +So, it may be time to start working on some LDAP schema ... so we will need to +register an IANA Enterprise number at some stage. + +><i> > (So, in this case, the interface is displayed in Afrikaans ... I guess I +</I>><i> > need to create at least 3 English translations - en, en_us, en_gb) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Chromium with default language settings shows: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > [info] Languages: en-gb,en-us,en,i-default, default: en, saving: en-gb +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So, I can imagine a case where it is the only language listed. In this +</I>><i> > case, I think we should either not set preferredLanguage, or set it to +</I>><i> > en. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would set it to en. Not setting a default one just push the decision +</I>><i> of using default on every consumer of the information, and that doesn't +</I>><i> sound good. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > > 1 es-pe +</I>><i> > > > 1 cs-cz +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Theses 3 one are likely wrong ( according to IANA registry ) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Do you have a URL handy? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry">http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fact is there is several registry of language ( like 6 iso standards + +</I>><i> ietf one ), so people can easily have it wrong ( not to mention people +</I>><i> who get it wrong with tld and country ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > > I guess I should filter these out, and replace with +</I>><i> > > > en,fr,es,ru,it,fi,et,es,tr ? I will fix the wrong ones in LDAP later. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > How can we enforce correct entry ? Should we maybe have a whitelist, +</I>><i> > > and receive a monthly mail about wrong one ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > May be a good idea. Or, we could use slapo-constraint (with regex, or +</I>><i> > dynamic list in LDAP) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We could feed the list from the one of tx +</I>><i> ( <A HREF="http://www.transifex.net/languages/">http://www.transifex.net/languages/</A> but in a more exploitable, I +</I>><i> assume this can be downloaded somewhere ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Maybe we should also compare to what localisation teams we have (or don't +</I>><i> > have), and indicate to users whose preferred languages isn't localised +</I>><i> > that they could contribute in that way. +</I> +Yes, maybe we can push the languages we have into LDAP, and for all languages +not there, display a notice in CatDap that the interface is not in their +language due to not having a localisation team? + +><i> Yup, nice idea. I was also about to think how we should manage i18n team +</I>><i> in ldap, and if this is needed. This would requires to have the +</I>><i> delegation feature working in catdap ( not sure of the status of this ). +</I> +Regards, +Buchan +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002776.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mediawiki +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002923.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mediawiki +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2922">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2922">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2922">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2922">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |