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( +</I>>>><i> I +</I>>>><i> do not know yet +</I>>>><i> what it mean for transifex ). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> First question : +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Should we have 1 big group for that, and let people manage the various +</I>>>><i> subteams outside +</I>>>><i> of ldap, or have 1 group per language ? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> 1 big group is easier, and we can delegate the management to 1/2 person ( +</I>>>><i> ie +</I>>>><i> i18n team leader ). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Several group is IMHO more scalable, but this requires more work on our +</I>>>><i> side. And this will not +</I>>>><i> map to permission on tx and the blog, among others. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 1 big group will surely mean less work for all involved, it also means +</I>>><i> more discipline for the translators/ language team leaders. :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, and I am not sure it is wise to ask more discipline on more poeople to +</I>><i> be a good idea. +</I>><i> We should not impose too much burden on sysadmin for sure, but neither +</I>><i> should we on +</I>><i> others, especially for very small team. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If I understand previous discussions correctly this has nothing to do +</I>>><i> with the commit permissions (pushing translated files to svn). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the moment, the permission on tx are linked to the right to commit on +</I>><i> svn, but +</I>><i> this was mainly for testing purpose and lack of pbetter proposal than +</I>><i> anything. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For efficiency reason, we could try to find something that automatically +</I>><i> make team leader able +</I>><i> to write to svn. But I see no easy way to do it ( I see complex way on the +</I>><i> other hand ). +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> For safety reasons (bus error) I suggest to go for 2 person management. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yup. We can just set both of the owner of the group. +</I> +All this shows that we need a testing phase/stage to try out options +(first the easiest for all, then if this does not work as wanted, go +to more complex solutions) + +We should take our time and be careful (like we go about the +distribution itself). Mistakes we make now may be hard to correct +later. + +So, if the work for the distribution demands action of the translators +before we find a suitable solution with tx we should use the +"traditional" way in the meantime: + - anonymous checkout from svn for all + - work coordination within the language mailing lists + - proofreading either by sending the po file to the language ml or in piratepad + - finishing and committing to svn by the language team leaders (or +appointed committers for that language) + +WDYT? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002788.html">[Mageia-sysadm] LDAP group for translator, delegation +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002795.html">[Mageia-sysadm] LDAP group for translator, delegation +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2790">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2790">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2790">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2790">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More information about the Mageia-sysadm +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |