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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 31 mars 2011 &#224; 21:33 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I think we can all agree that the canonical list of member of a team is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in a ldap group for all teams ( because that's what we did so far for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; web application integration, catdap integration, sympa integration,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; epoll integration, etc ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, but we discussed (several months ago) too to remind that it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> because one is (or is not) a team member that it would necessarily be
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribed to the team list; that should not be a bijective
+</I>&gt;<i> relationship.
+</I>
+Yup, so we agree that this 2 different things.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; So if the qa team is the list of people in the ldap group mga-qa,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is confusing to refer to a 2nd group ( the list of people who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; subscribed to the ml, and who would be ) as qateam.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's the informal team list, where non-peers can subscribe and
+</I>&gt;<i> participate. That's the mailing-list (communication/collaboration
+</I>&gt;<i> goals).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And there's the formal team, made of peers only. That's the LDAP group
+</I>&gt;<i> (credential/recognition goal).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are two distinct sets that don't match exactly with each other.
+</I>
+Yes, again we agree on the fact this is 2 different things.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (yes, it comes out too from years of practice of this naming scheme at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mandriva where, well, these were internal list names/aliases - but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; here it would be public as team's lists are :-p ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On mandriva qateam alias/ml, who was behind ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; While I was not here so I am maybe wrong, I suspect the aliases matched
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exactly the internal organisation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Far from that. Cross-teams information
+</I>
+That do not really fully answer to the question, ie who was there ?
+And how was the teams named in Mandriva ?
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Here, I do not know exactly because Damien ask for a public list, and to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; me that mean a list were anybody can subscribe and post, but maybe he
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mean a list that anybody can read ( something like council ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So in the hypothesis that the list is not restricted to members of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; team, the name would be misleading.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have already <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-webteam at mageia.org.</A> That's the team discussion
+</I>&gt;<i> list, and it is open to everyone (lurkers included). Only a little
+</I>&gt;<i> subset of its subscribers are team peers. And that is perfectly fine.
+</I>
+This one is more a exception than the norm if I look on
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/</A>
+( and well, I think we also agreed to use web@ when migrating to sympa :
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000124.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-webteam/2011-January/000124.html</A> ).
+
+In the case of webteam, this is not obvious that the list is a
+discussion list when you just take the name, as it sound more like a
+alias for the team itself.
+
+&gt;<i> If we were to move the Web team ml to ml.mageia.org (I guess that will
+</I>&gt;<i> happen some day) it should not strictly tie ml membership to team
+</I>&gt;<i> membership - these are two different things.
+</I>
+So we agree that's 2 different things.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I would also add that it seems that people on the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qateam">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qateam</A> ) have a different view of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; QA than what is written as a description ( and the purpose is the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as others team like debian one <A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/">http://wiki.debian.org/qa.debian.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and ubuntu <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/</A> ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And the ratio of people saying &quot;automation tool&quot; vs &quot;test packages&quot; on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qateam">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=qateam</A> is quite clear ( 1 people for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; automation, 53 for &quot;testing&quot; ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that should not prevent the QA team to be further designed and
+</I>&gt;<i> built for both practices (and still bear the &quot;QA&quot; name, as that's what
+</I>&gt;<i> it is about).
+</I>
+I think I was not clear. We agreed that the list and the team are
+different.
+
+The problem is not the qa naming, as it is likely already too late to
+change people perception as I explained. But that's not a big issue
+because this could be done later with enough education.
+
+The problem is that the name &quot;qateam&quot; already design something different
+because of the team suffix.
+
+&gt;<i> Testers are testers, but maybe not necessarily meant to be QA team
+</I>&gt;<i> peers that _organize_ and coordonate things - it's not because it does
+</I>&gt;<i> not stand out yet that a QA team can't be setup at all as such (look
+</I>&gt;<i> at marketing and communication teams - they are not there yet, but
+</I>&gt;<i> that doesn't prevent to work for it slowly).
+</I>
+Well, I agree that the lack of formal team is not a issue, that was not
+my point ( nor the one that I wanted to make )
+
+But the list of market and comm are not called marketingteam or
+communicationteam especially since the team do not exist yet.
+
+We also said that we would not create 1 list for each team to work in
+isolation ( see
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100929/001538.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20100929/001538.html</A> ),
+as we want to have cross team collaboration.
+And so one of the way to say that a list is not to be reserved for a
+team is to remove the &quot;team&quot; from the name.
+
+You didn't comment on my suggestion about distro-test so I suspect that
+it is not fine. So let's do a 2nd proposition, what about :
+
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">qa-discuss at ml</A>
+
+It say this is about qa ( qa )
+It is clearly a discussion list, open to everybody ( -discuss )
+It is separate from the idea of team ( which is a separate concept as we
+both said ).
+
+Moreover, qa is IMHO a better prefix for a potential qa-reports@ ( for
+automated reports, like sysadmin-reports for puppet/xymon report ), for
+qa-private@, or qa-security@, or
+qa-updates@ or anything for a private list if needed as reminded by
+Damien ( so we can do the vast majority of the work in the open and
+still keep sensible issues separate, thus having both benefit ).
+
+And we could later have qa-announce@, qa-commits@, etc.
+
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+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+
+I got another bunch of translator usernames:
+
+commiters
+ Diego Bello - Jacen
+ Miguel - motitos
+ Luis Llave - luis0siu
+members
+ Eduardo Vidal - Edokun
+ Miguel Ram&#237;rez - MichaelSOG
+ Jos&#233; Valle Cid - katnatek
+
+Could you please add them to the respective ldap groups?
+
+Thanks,
+
+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> I got another bunch of translator usernames:
+</I>And again one more...
+
+members
+ dant3
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+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> *** Security Check, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</I>&gt;<i> *** Check type: daily ***
+</I>&gt;<i> *** Check executed from: /etc/cron.daily/msec ***
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You didn't comment on my suggestion about distro-test so I suspect that
+</I>&gt;<i> it is not fine. So let's do a 2nd proposition, what about :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">qa-discuss at ml</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It say this is about qa ( qa )
+</I>&gt;<i> It is clearly a discussion list, open to everybody ( -discuss )
+</I>&gt;<i> It is separate from the idea of team ( which is a separate concept as we
+</I>&gt;<i> both said ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Moreover, qa is IMHO a better prefix for a potential qa-reports@ ( for
+</I>&gt;<i> automated reports, like sysadmin-reports for puppet/xymon report ), for
+</I>&gt;<i> qa-private@, or qa-security@, or
+</I>&gt;<i> qa-updates@ or anything for a private list if needed as reminded by
+</I>&gt;<i> Damien ( so we can do the vast majority of the work in the open and
+</I>&gt;<i> still keep sensible issues separate, thus having both benefit ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And we could later have qa-announce@, qa-commits@, etc.
+</I>
+I think that's a good proposition. And it match what we are doing for
+sysadmin lists, with sysadmin-commits@, sysadmin-bugs@,
+sysadmin-reports@ and maybe sysadmin-discuss@ when we migrate the
+current list from zarb.
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+&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 0.12.0-6.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 80478
+</I>&gt;<i> - Rebuild because of missing packages
+</I>
+Ouch.
+So we're suffering from this @mga too.
+Ccing those who had hints about the bogus bits of our BS...
+We were missing some locking at some places according to some
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+&gt;<i> On 4 April 2011 16:50, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 0.12.0-6.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 80478
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Rebuild because of missing packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ouch.
+</I>&gt;<i> So we're suffering from this @mga too.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ccing those who had hints about the bogus bits of our BS...
+</I>&gt;<i> We were missing some locking at some places according to some
+</I>&gt;<i> investigation by blino years ago
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have not seen a single package disappearing which was not actually a
+self obsolete so far.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 16:12, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 4 April 2011 16:50, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 0.12.0-6.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 80478
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Rebuild because of missing packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ouch.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So we're suffering from this @mga too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ccing those who had hints about the bogus bits of our BS...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We were missing some locking at some places according to some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> investigation by blino years ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not seen a single package disappearing which was not actually a
+</I>&gt;<i> self obsolete so far.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Looking at geoclue, I don't see missing packages but the -devel which
+got renamed without changing the packages which buildrequire it in the
+following revision:
+
+------------------------------------------------------------------------
+r66281 | dmorgan | 2011-03-07 21:55:07 +0000 (Mon, 07 Mar 2011) | 1 line
+
+SYnc with fedora
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You didn't comment on my suggestion about distro-test so I suspect that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it is not fine. So let's do a 2nd proposition, what about :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">qa-discuss at ml</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It say this is about qa ( qa )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is clearly a discussion list, open to everybody ( -discuss )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is separate from the idea of team ( which is a separate concept as we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> both said ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Moreover, qa is IMHO a better prefix for a potential qa-reports@ ( for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automated reports, like sysadmin-reports for puppet/xymon report ), for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> qa-private@, or qa-security@, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> qa-updates@ or anything for a private list if needed as reminded by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Damien ( so we can do the vast majority of the work in the open and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still keep sensible issues separate, thus having both benefit ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we could later have qa-announce@, qa-commits@, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that's a good proposition. And it match what we are doing for
+</I>&gt;<i> sysadmin lists, with sysadmin-commits@, sysadmin-bugs@,
+</I>&gt;<i> sysadmin-reports@ and maybe sysadmin-discuss@ when we migrate the
+</I>&gt;<i> current list from zarb.
+</I>
+Ok, I will follow you on this idea as I really need the ML ASAP. :-)
+So, please, can you create <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">qa-discuss at ml.mageia.org</A>?
+
+Beware, QA will rule the world!
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 01 avril 2011 &#224; 23:38 +0200, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got another bunch of translator usernames:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> commiters
+</I>&gt;<i> Diego Bello - Jacen
+</I>&gt;<i> Miguel - motitos
+</I>&gt;<i> Luis Llave - luis0siu
+</I>
+Done
+
+&gt;<i> members
+</I>&gt;<i> Eduardo Vidal - Edokun
+</I>&gt;<i> Miguel Ram&#237;rez - MichaelSOG
+</I>&gt;<i> Jos&#233; Valle Cid - katnatek
+</I>
+MichaelSog and katnatek do not exist in our ldap, can you check with
+them ?
+
+Otherwise done.
+
+For others admins, as I am not sure that I have explained this or not in
+details, the task is to place users in mga-i18n group ( all of them,
+member and commiters ) so they can access to transifex, and add
+commiters to mga-i18n-commiters so they have more management rights in
+tx. Be careful to check their username, as ldap will not complain if
+this is wrong.
+
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+--
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011, root wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; *** Security Check, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; *** Check type: daily ***
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; *** Check executed from: /etc/cron.daily/msec ***
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I removed msec from alamut.
+</I>
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+--
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+&gt;<i> Revision 818 Author dmorgan Date 2011-04-04 01:30:37 +0200 (Mon, 04 Apr
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> Add drakguard
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+Please do not import soft that is not forked. I just added 2 icons in
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 0.12.0-6.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 80478
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Rebuild because of missing packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ouch.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So we're suffering from this @mga too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ccing those who had hints about the bogus bits of our BS...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We were missing some locking at some places according to some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> investigation by blino years ago
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+</I>&gt;<i> I have not seen a single package disappearing which was not actually a
+</I>&gt;<i> self obsolete so far.
+</I>
+OK, sorry for the false alarm then.
+Have the suspicious things spotted by blino been fixed?
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+&gt;<i> On 4 April 2011 17:24, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 0.12.0-6.mga1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 80478
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Rebuild because of missing packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ouch.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So we're suffering from this @mga too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ccing those who had hints about the bogus bits of our BS...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We were missing some locking at some places according to some
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> investigation by blino years ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have not seen a single package disappearing which was not actually a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> self obsolete so far.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, sorry for the false alarm then.
+</I>&gt;<i> Have the suspicious things spotted by blino been fixed?
+</I>
+It does not apply anymore, since we don't have the &quot;kenobi -&gt; raoh&quot; sync
+anymore with one youri on each, everything is now done in one single
+youri command on valstar.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 16:12, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 4 April 2011 16:50, Mageia Team &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 0.12.0-6.mga1:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; + Revision: 80478
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Rebuild because of missing packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ouch.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So we're suffering from this @mga too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ccing those who had hints about the bogus bits of our BS...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We were missing some locking at some places according to some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; investigation by blino years ago
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not seen a single package disappearing which was not actually a
+</I>&gt;<i> self obsolete so far.
+</I>
+Rpmlint do not warn for it ?
+( if it does, this should prevent upload IMHO ).
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+There was some discussions at last council meeting about making ARM an
+official port, and adding ARM machines in the build system :
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381</A>
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+Rtp has been working on a Mageia ARM port for some time, and I think he
+plans to have something useable soon, maybe for Mageia 1st release.
+After asking to rtp, a machine we could use for building packages on
+ARM is OpenRD :
+<A HREF="http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9">http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9</A>
+It costs around &#163;203.00 or 230 euros (+ shipping). So I think that's not
+very expensive.
+
+However, this machine is a lot slower than the x86_64 build servers we
+have, so building big packages like LibreOffice will take much more
+time. And if we don't want to slow down all the buildsystem, maybe we
+should make the successufl ARM build not mandatory to upload packages on
+x86_64 and i586. So this require some changes in the BS. But I think
+it's something that can be done.
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+What do you think about this ?
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+<PRE>m&#229;n 2011-04-04 klockan 20:44 +0300 skrev nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was some discussions at last council meeting about making ARM an
+</I>&gt;<i> official port, and adding ARM machines in the build system :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Rtp has been working on a Mageia ARM port for some time, and I think he
+</I>&gt;<i> plans to have something useable soon, maybe for Mageia 1st release.
+</I>&gt;<i> After asking to rtp, a machine we could use for building packages on
+</I>&gt;<i> ARM is OpenRD :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9">http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> It costs around &#163;203.00 or 230 euros (+ shipping). So I think that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> very expensive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What about some omap4 smp system ?
+
+I know pandaboard, but that one does not have any sane disk interface...
+
+&gt;<i> However, this machine is a lot slower than the x86_64 build servers we
+</I>&gt;<i> have, so building big packages like LibreOffice will take much more
+</I>&gt;<i> time. And if we don't want to slow down all the buildsystem, maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> should make the successufl ARM build not mandatory to upload packages on
+</I>&gt;<i> x86_64 and i586. So this require some changes in the BS. But I think
+</I>&gt;<i> it's something that can be done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think about this ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I guess we can allow it to build as fast as it can...
+after version freeze (and release freeze) it can catch up...
+
+but what about qa ?
+
+--
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+<PRE>Le lundi 04 avril 2011 &#224; 19:44 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was some discussions at last council meeting about making ARM an
+</I>&gt;<i> official port, and adding ARM machines in the build system :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Rtp has been working on a Mageia ARM port for some time, and I think he
+</I>&gt;<i> plans to have something useable soon, maybe for Mageia 1st release.
+</I>&gt;<i> After asking to rtp, a machine we could use for building packages on
+</I>&gt;<i> ARM is OpenRD :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9">http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> It costs around &#163;203.00 or 230 euros (+ shipping). So I think that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> very expensive.
+</I>
+I still do have a pandaboard available. It just take that someone in
+Paris fetch it and to decide where we place it ( and a case around it
+would be nicer, and there is nothing to run on it yet ).
+
+&gt;<i> However, this machine is a lot slower than the x86_64 build servers we
+</I>&gt;<i> have, so building big packages like LibreOffice will take much more
+</I>&gt;<i> time. And if we don't want to slow down all the buildsystem, maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> should make the successufl ARM build not mandatory to upload packages on
+</I>&gt;<i> x86_64 and i586. So this require some changes in the BS. But I think
+</I>&gt;<i> it's something that can be done.
+</I>
+That for sure something we can do, but then we should also give us
+objectives to fullfill ( like &quot;we should strive to have a synced
+release&quot; ) and also objectives in term of hardware to one day make them
+in sync.
+
+Moreover if this is not mandatory, don't you fear that the arch will be
+too much out of sync ( as this was the case for ppc/sparc in the
+past ) ?
+I would also be concerned about the way we manage freeze if the arch is
+late, and the complexity that will occurs.
+
+
+Also what about stuff like :
+- remote shell access ( if there is a arch dependent bugs )
+- various tests ( automated rebuild, youri, etc )
+
+For remote shell access, we could offer VMs for that, but I can hear rtp
+screaming as I type this email :).
+In fact, the same could be said about rebuilded, but I do not know how
+good is the emulation of arm using qemu.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> I've gone back to try to sign into IM, and it's sneering at me.
+</I>&gt;<i> Doesn't like either username or email, doesn't like password (just
+</I>&gt;<i> reset). What's best to do? Forget it and re-register?
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+Mh, just to be straight, you tried to log on identity.mageia.org, using
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+&gt;<i> &gt; I've gone back to try to sign into IM, and it's sneering at me.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Doesn't like either username or email, doesn't like password (just
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reset). What's best to do? Forget it and re-register?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mh, just to be straight, you tried to log on identity.mageia.org,
+</I>&gt;<i> using your account and password and it say &quot;wrong password&quot; ?
+</I>
+It was odd; I got wrong username/password; tried changing both, and
+then finally got rid of the saved logins from Firefox, which I think
+were overwriting all my attempts. It's good now.
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+bugs
+changelog
+packages-commits
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+to be tracked by Gmane.
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+Looking on *-commits, I think it would be nicer to get commit path in
+subject like in mdv, makes it easier to filter...
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+And committer alias intstead of root...
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+wdyt ?
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+</I>&gt;<i> And committer alias intstead of root...
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+&gt;<i> I have now added:
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+</I>&gt;<i> bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> changelog
+</I>&gt;<i> packages-commits
+</I>&gt;<i> soft-commits
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+</I>&gt;<i> to be tracked by Gmane.
+</I>
+How ?
+
+Afaik, you need to open a identity account for that to work
+( colin already tried, I also spoke of the issue 6 months ago when we
+talked about it )
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking on *-commits, I think it would be nicer to get commit path in
+</I>&gt;<i> subject like in mdv, makes it easier to filter...
+</I>
+Why not
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+&gt;<i> And committer alias intstead of root...
+</I>
+I would prefer that we keep alias to the bare minimum
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+<PRE>tis 2011-04-05 klockan 00:58 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 00:51 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have now added:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; changelog
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages-commits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; soft-commits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to be tracked by Gmane.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Afaik, you need to open a identity account for that to work
+</I>&gt;<i> ( colin already tried, I also spoke of the issue 6 months ago when we
+</I>&gt;<i> talked about it )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>
+I got a mail from Gmane admins stating sympa dont allow subscriptions,
+and they asked to manually add a specific mail for the lists I wanted.
+
+So I just logged into sympa, selected proper list, chose &quot;manage
+subscriptions&quot;, pasted in the mail address in &quot;Add an user&quot; and thats
+all needed...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Looking on *-commits, I think it would be nicer to get commit path in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; subject like in mdv, makes it easier to filter...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And committer alias intstead of root...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would prefer that we keep alias to the bare minimum
+</I>
+how do you mean ?
+every committer already have an alias (or login actually)
+
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+<PRE>Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 01:06 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> tis 2011-04-05 klockan 00:58 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 00:51 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have now added:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; changelog
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packages-commits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; soft-commits
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to be tracked by Gmane.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Afaik, you need to open a identity account for that to work
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( colin already tried, I also spoke of the issue 6 months ago when we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; talked about it )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got a mail from Gmane admins stating sympa dont allow subscriptions,
+</I>&gt;<i> and they asked to manually add a specific mail for the lists I wanted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I just logged into sympa, selected proper list, chose &quot;manage
+</I>&gt;<i> subscriptions&quot;, pasted in the mail address in &quot;Add an user&quot; and thats
+</I>&gt;<i> all needed...
+</I>
+We should automate this IMHO.
+
+My plan was to add some whitelist for gmane, and some script to
+subscribe to gmane using www::mechanize, as this would auto subscribe
+new lists that we created.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Looking on *-commits, I think it would be nicer to get commit path in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; subject like in mdv, makes it easier to filter...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; And committer alias intstead of root...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would prefer that we keep alias to the bare minimum
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> how do you mean ?
+</I>
+mhh, I think you wanted &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">committer at mageia</A>&quot; rather than <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at .</A> That
+didn't made much sense now I think of.
+
+
+&gt;<i> every committer already have an alias (or login actually)
+</I>
+Nope. Only founders have for now.
+
+$ grep aliases_group modules/postfix/manifests/init.pp
+ $aliases_group = ['mga-founders']
+
+For sure we can add to others, but I would prefer that we formalise a
+little bit more how do we distribute them ( ie what about others group
+than packagers and translators who are in ldap, as we should strive to
+include others group as well ).
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+
+as i wanted to add pxe support to our libvirt installation, I stumbled
+on this bug : <A HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575628">http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575628</A>
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+In short, we should push a new version of qemu on rabbit for that. I
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+&gt;<i> MichaelSog and katnatek do not exist in our ldap, can you check with
+</I>&gt;<i> them ?
+</I>I'm checking with the spanish i18n team leader.
+
+&gt;<i> Otherwise done.
+</I>Thanks
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+ - dant3 (asked for him already but don't know, if the mail got through)
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+<PRE>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 00:38, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 01:06 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tis 2011-04-05 klockan 00:58 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 00:51 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have now added:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; changelog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packages-commits
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; soft-commits
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to be tracked by Gmane.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; How ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Afaik, you need to open a identity account for that to work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ( colin already tried, I also spoke of the issue 6 months ago when we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; talked about it )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I got a mail from Gmane admins stating sympa dont allow subscriptions,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and they asked to manually add a specific mail for the lists I wanted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I just logged into sympa, selected proper list, chose &quot;manage
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subscriptions&quot;, pasted in the mail address in &quot;Add an user&quot; and thats
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> all needed...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should automate this IMHO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My plan was to add some whitelist for gmane, and some script to
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe to gmane using www::mechanize, as this would auto subscribe
+</I>&gt;<i> new lists that we created.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Looking on *-commits, I think it would be nicer to get commit path in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; subject like in mdv, makes it easier to filter...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Why not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; And committer alias intstead of root...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I would prefer that we keep alias to the bare minimum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how do you mean ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mhh, I think you wanted &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">committer at mageia</A>&quot; rather than <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at .</A> That
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't made much sense now I think of.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+What about something like &quot;login&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt; ?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> every committer already have an alias (or login actually)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope. Only founders have for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ grep aliases_group &#160;modules/postfix/manifests/init.pp
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;$aliases_group = ['mga-founders']
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For sure we can add to others, but I would prefer that we formalise a
+</I>&gt;<i> little bit more how do we distribute them ( ie what about others group
+</I>&gt;<i> than packagers and translators who are in ldap, as we should strive to
+</I>&gt;<i> include others group as well ).
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as i wanted to add pxe support to our libvirt installation, I stumbled
+</I>&gt;<i> on this bug : <A HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575628">http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575628</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In short, we should push a new version of qemu on rabbit for that. I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess i will do it once beta 1 is out.
+</I>
+I fixed qemu for Mandriva, and also built libvirt with the patch required for qemu 0.14[1] and with netcf support.
+
+With these updates on my Mandriva x86_64 box I was able to PXE-boot a VM to do an installation (and configure the bridging from virt-manager).
+
+Unfortunately there was a lot of waiting to get that into Mandriva, and I haven't had time to do it on Mageia.
+
+1. <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/libvirt/current/SOURCES/libvirt-qemu-0.14-fix-booton.patch?revision=648511&amp;view=markup">http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/libvirt/current/SOURCES/libvirt-qemu-0.14-fix-booton.patch?revision=648511&amp;view=markup</A>
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 00:38, Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> every committer already have an alias (or login actually)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope. Only founders have for now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ grep aliases_group modules/postfix/manifests/init.pp
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $aliases_group = ['mga-founders']
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sorry, I was not clear enough...
+
+I meant to get the &quot;Author&quot; name from the top of the commit:
+---
+ From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>
+ To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">packages-commits at ml.mageia.org</A>
+ Subject: [80630] - new version 1.2
+ Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:04:05 +0200 (CEST)
+
+Title: [80630] - new version 1.2
+
+Revision
+ 80630
+Author
+ obgr_seneca
+Date
+ 2011-04-05 09:04:05 +0200 (Tue, 05 Apr 2011)
+---
+
+like its done on the mdv commits ml
+
+So instead of stating it comes from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>
+it could say in this example: obgr_seneca &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+(and maybe even change root@ to mageia-dev@ (or something like that))
+
+That way people can also easy filter/check their padwans work
+
+
+And as previously mentioned, change Subject from:
+[80630] - new version 1.2
+to
+[80630] cauldron/kaffeine - new version 1.2
+
+
+I hope this makes my thoughts clearer...
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+in <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,">http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,</A> i can see that there's no
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+this is totally normal, since it has been removed after being obsoleted
+by cpanminus.
+
+what i don't understand is why there is still a package for
+perl-App-cpanminus? (yes, there is an obsoletes: tag in place)
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+&gt;<i> in <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,">http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,</A> i can see that there's no
+</I>&gt;<i> source rpm for perl-App-cpanminus
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is totally normal, since it has been removed after being obsoleted
+</I>&gt;<i> by cpanminus.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what i don't understand is why there is still a package for
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-App-cpanminus? (yes, there is an obsoletes: tag in place)
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On 5 April 2011 13:13, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,">http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,</A> i can see that there's no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; source rpm for perl-App-cpanminus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this is totally normal, since it has been removed after being obsoleted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; by cpanminus.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what i don't understand is why there is still a package for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perl-App-cpanminus? (yes, there is an obsoletes: tag in place)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just add a provides.
+</I>
+hmmm. this seems weird: nothing should require perl-App-cpanminus. at
+worst, some pkg may require perl(App::cpanminus), but not the package
+itself. that's why i did not add a provides: - or am i wrong?
+
+anyway, i just added the provides: and will submit.
+
+thanks,
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as i wanted to add pxe support to our libvirt installation, I stumbled
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on this bug : <A HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575628">http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=575628</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; In short, we should push a new version of qemu on rabbit for that. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; guess i will do it once beta 1 is out.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I fixed qemu for Mandriva, and also built libvirt with the patch
+</I>&gt;<i> required for qemu 0.14[1] and with netcf support.
+</I>
+I synced your change on mageia ( at least for libvirt ) in cauldron
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+( ie, I just plan to backport from cauldron )
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+&gt;<i> Please enable the RSS feature on Viewvc. I like to follow some packages
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+&gt;<i> 2011/3/30 Gergely L&#243;nyai &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">aleph at mandriva.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please enable the RSS feature on Viewvc. I like to follow some packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but I'm late by manual route.
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+</I>&gt;<i> What about enabling it for mageia?
+</I>
+That's a cunning plan :)
+
+But this would requires deploying a database for viewvc, and viewvc do
+not support postgresql, only mysql :
+<A HREF="http://viewvc.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40">http://viewvc.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40</A>
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+So I am not sure this would be wise to deploy mysql just to have rss
+from svn when you can have them from a ml ( + gmane + sympa rss ).
+Sqlite could be a option however, i didn't check.
+
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+land in our rpm after being accepted upstream, I would be more inclined
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+like last time, i was the lucky guy who had to push stuff on the mirror.
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+So, this time, I didn't stop rsync :
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+on rabbit :
+copy all iso in a single directory inside screen, using scp :
+scp */* <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar.mageia.org</A>:/distrib/new_isos/
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+on valstar :
+- check md5
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+ mv mirror/iso/cauldron/ old_isos/1/alpha2/
+ mv new_isos/ mirror/iso/cauldron/
+ chown mirror:mirror mirror/iso/cauldron/
+
+and that's all ( yes, that's less impressive when there is less
+commands ).
+
+So what is left to do :
+- warn mirrors people on mirrors announce ( after asking them to
+subscribe , I guess, so we should keep that in mind for next time )
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+- the announce ( which is being prepared at the moment )
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+- write documentation about it :)
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+<PRE>tis 2011-04-05 klockan 19:49 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> like last time, i was the lucky guy who had to push stuff on the mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, this time, I didn't stop rsync :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> on rabbit :
+</I>&gt;<i> copy all iso in a single directory inside screen, using scp :
+</I>&gt;<i> scp */* <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar.mageia.org</A>:/distrib/new_isos/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> - check md5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cd /distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> mv mirror/iso/cauldron/ old_isos/1/alpha2/
+</I>&gt;<i> mv new_isos/ mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> chown mirror:mirror mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That should have been: chown -R
+(fixed)
+
+And I have uploaded *.torrent files into iso/cauldron/torrents
+
+&gt;<i> and that's all ( yes, that's less impressive when there is less
+</I>&gt;<i> commands ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what is left to do :
+</I>&gt;<i> - warn mirrors people on mirrors announce ( after asking them to
+</I>&gt;<i> subscribe , I guess, so we should keep that in mind for next time )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the announce ( which is being prepared at the moment )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - write documentation about it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 20:11 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> tis 2011-04-05 klockan 19:49 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like last time, i was the lucky guy who had to push stuff on the mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, this time, I didn't stop rsync :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on rabbit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; copy all iso in a single directory inside screen, using scp :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; scp */* <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar.mageia.org</A>:/distrib/new_isos/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - check md5
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cd /distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mv mirror/iso/cauldron/ old_isos/1/alpha2/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mv new_isos/ mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; chown mirror:mirror mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That should have been: chown -R
+</I>&gt;<i> (fixed)
+</I>
+Previous one was root owned without trouble, si I just did the same.
+I do not see much added value into changing file owner for that if it
+work fine.
+
+&gt;<i> And I have uploaded *.torrent files into iso/cauldron/torrents
+</I>
+Warn the communication team too.
+--
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+<PRE>tis 2011-04-05 klockan 20:19 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 20:11 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tis 2011-04-05 klockan 19:49 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; like last time, i was the lucky guy who had to push stuff on the mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So, this time, I didn't stop rsync :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; on rabbit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; copy all iso in a single directory inside screen, using scp :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; scp */* <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar.mageia.org</A>:/distrib/new_isos/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - check md5
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; cd /distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mv mirror/iso/cauldron/ old_isos/1/alpha2/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mv new_isos/ mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; chown mirror:mirror mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That should have been: chown -R
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (fixed)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Previous one was root owned without trouble, si I just did the same.
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not see much added value into changing file owner for that if it
+</I>&gt;<i> work fine.
+</I>
+Then what's the point of changing the owner of the dir ?
+
+it also would work as root
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I have uploaded *.torrent files into iso/cauldron/torrents
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Warn the communication team too.
+</I>
+CC'd rda and marketing...
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+&gt;<i> Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 16:45 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2011/3/30 Gergely L&#243;nyai &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">aleph at mandriva.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Please enable the RSS feature on Viewvc. I like to follow some packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; but I'm late by manual route.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What about enabling it for mageia?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a cunning plan :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this would requires deploying a database for viewvc, and viewvc do
+</I>&gt;<i> not support postgresql, only mysql :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://viewvc.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40">http://viewvc.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=40</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I am not sure this would be wise to deploy mysql just to have rss
+</I>&gt;<i> from svn when you can have them from a ml ( + gmane + sympa rss ).
+</I>
+It's also possible to have RSS on <A HREF="http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia">http://cia.vc/stats/project/Mageia</A>
+Not possible to have separate RSS for each package however.
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+<PRE>Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 20:26 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> tis 2011-04-05 klockan 20:19 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 20:11 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; tis 2011-04-05 klockan 19:49 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; like last time, i was the lucky guy who had to push stuff on the mirror.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; So, this time, I didn't stop rsync :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; on rabbit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; copy all iso in a single directory inside screen, using scp :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; scp */* <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar.mageia.org</A>:/distrib/new_isos/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; - check md5
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; cd /distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; mv mirror/iso/cauldron/ old_isos/1/alpha2/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; mv new_isos/ mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; chown mirror:mirror mirror/iso/cauldron/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; That should have been: chown -R
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (fixed)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Previous one was root owned without trouble, si I just did the same.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do not see much added value into changing file owner for that if it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then what's the point of changing the owner of the dir ?
+</I>
+Indeed none ( just that I was not sure so I copied the current setting
+without thinking ).
+
+So I think we could agree that mirror should be read only for root, at
+least for isos ?
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+Not that it will change much of course, but the more obvious setting we
+have, the less trouble we will have.
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+&gt;<i> On 11/04/05 14:02 +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 5 April 2011 13:13, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; in <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,">http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,</A> i can see that there's no
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; source rpm for perl-App-cpanminus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this is totally normal, since it has been removed after being obsoleted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; by cpanminus.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; what i don't understand is why there is still a package for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; perl-App-cpanminus? (yes, there is an obsoletes: tag in place)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just add a provides.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hmmm. this seems weird: nothing should require perl-App-cpanminus. at
+</I>&gt;<i> worst, some pkg may require perl(App::cpanminus), but not the package
+</I>&gt;<i> itself. that's why i did not add a provides: - or am i wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway, i just added the provides: and will submit.
+</I>
+and the check is still present, so it wasn't due to a missing provides:
+==&gt; what's the problem?
+j&#233;r&#244;me
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+&gt;<i> On 11/04/05 15:08 +0200, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 11/04/05 14:02 +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On 5 April 2011 13:13, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; in <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,">http://check.mageia.org/missing.html,</A> i can see that there's no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; source rpm for perl-App-cpanminus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; this is totally normal, since it has been removed after being obsoleted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; by cpanminus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; what i don't understand is why there is still a package for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; perl-App-cpanminus? (yes, there is an obsoletes: tag in place)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Just add a provides.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hmmm. this seems weird: nothing should require perl-App-cpanminus. at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> worst, some pkg may require perl(App::cpanminus), but not the package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> itself. that's why i did not add a provides: - or am i wrong?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anyway, i just added the provides: and will submit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and the check is still present, so it wasn't due to a missing provides:
+</I>&gt;<i> ==&gt; what's the problem?
+</I>
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+2 questions I have in mind:
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+- could we have a ML for registered mirrors? for now isos push is not
+communicated and that can be quite annoying for mirrors managers. At
+least we should mail them some hours before to inform them.
+- if we are able to contact all of them, I'd like to ask them
+statistics about downloads. It will help us to evaluate how much
+Mageia is spread.
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 questions I have in mind:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - could we have a ML for registered mirrors? for now isos push is not
+</I>&gt;<i> communicated and that can be quite annoying for mirrors managers. At
+</I>&gt;<i> least we should mail them some hours before to inform them.
+</I>
+We have the mirrors-announce mailing list created :
+<A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/mirrors-announce">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/mirrors-announce</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2 questions I have in mind:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - could we have a ML for registered mirrors? for now isos push is not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; communicated and that can be quite annoying for mirrors managers. At
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; least we should mail them some hours before to inform them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have the mirrors-announce mailing list created :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/mirrors-announce">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/mirrors-announce</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this is not yet listed in readme file on the mirrors.
+</I>
+I added mirrors-announce in the readme file :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/main_mirror/files/mirror/mirror.readme?revision=1487&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/main_mirror/files/mirror/mirror.readme?revision=1487&amp;view=markup</A>
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+<PRE>2011/4/6 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 06 Apr 2011, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2 questions I have in mind:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - could we have a ML for registered mirrors? for now isos push is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; communicated and that can be quite annoying for mirrors managers. At
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; least we should mail them some hours before to inform them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have the mirrors-announce mailing list created :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/mirrors-announce">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/mirrors-announce</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But this is not yet listed in readme file on the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I added mirrors-announce in the readme file :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/main_mirror/files/mirror/mirror.readme?revision=1487&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/main_mirror/files/mirror/mirror.readme?revision=1487&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>
+What about finding a victim^w^wvolunteer to collect mails from mirrors admins ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:43:54 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 26 Mar 2011, Michael scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:25:27AM +0100, Micha&#322; Walenciak wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; when I try to import a pkg I get:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; $ mgarepo import /home/michal/rpmbuild/SRPMS/kadu-0.9.0-1.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Importing package to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/kadu">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/kadu</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; error: Connection closed by 212.85.158.147
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'ssh'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; any ideas?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Still no idea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Deap has the same problem, and it was something about &quot;password
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> expired&quot;, so I reset his password to see if this help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've added deap and kicer86 to mga-committers group. They were not in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the group, I think that was the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup, likely.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess we should add mga-packages-commiters to the
+</I>&gt;<i> access class for svn, or decide that every packager is also a committer
+</I>&gt;<i> on the whole svn.
+</I>
+What is &quot;access class&quot; ? Allow people from mga-packages-commiters to
+commit, without being in mga-commiters group, and remove the group ?
+
+Actually I tried to see where it is required that user is in
+mga-commiters group, but I didn't find.
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+mdv with svn log and all). cryptsetup-luks is the exact same package,
+wrongly imported from Fedora (I think, Fedora, but not sure).
+
+Please remove all cryptsetup-luks binary and src.rpm, I've already
+removed it from SVN.
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 04 avril 2011 &#224; 19:44 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There was some discussions at last council meeting about making ARM an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; official port, and adding ARM machines in the build system :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-03-28-18.33.log.html#l-381</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Rtp has been working on a Mageia ARM port for some time, and I think he
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; plans to have something useable soon, maybe for Mageia 1st release.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After asking to rtp, a machine we could use for building packages on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ARM is OpenRD :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9">http://newit.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It costs around &#163;203.00 or 230 euros (+ shipping). So I think that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; very expensive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I still do have a pandaboard available. It just take that someone in
+</I>&gt;<i> Paris fetch it and to decide where we place it ( and a case around it
+</I>&gt;<i> would be nicer, and there is nothing to run on it yet ).
+</I>
+Yes, we can start with this pandaboard, and bring it next time we go to
+Marseille. Maybe we can also add an OpenRD if we can buy one, to allow
+building packages faster with two build nodes. According to rtp, an
+advantage of OpenRD is that it's armv5t which is better to detect
+alignement errors.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However, this machine is a lot slower than the x86_64 build servers we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have, so building big packages like LibreOffice will take much more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time. And if we don't want to slow down all the buildsystem, maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should make the successufl ARM build not mandatory to upload packages on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; x86_64 and i586. So this require some changes in the BS. But I think
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's something that can be done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That for sure something we can do, but then we should also give us
+</I>&gt;<i> objectives to fullfill ( like &quot;we should strive to have a synced
+</I>&gt;<i> release&quot; ) and also objectives in term of hardware to one day make them
+</I>&gt;<i> in sync.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Moreover if this is not mandatory, don't you fear that the arch will be
+</I>&gt;<i> too much out of sync ( as this was the case for ppc/sparc in the
+</I>&gt;<i> past ) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> I would also be concerned about the way we manage freeze if the arch is
+</I>&gt;<i> late, and the complexity that will occurs.
+</I>
+Yes, that can be a problem if one arch become too much out of sync.
+Maybe we can generate a list of out of sync packages to help see what
+needs to be fixed. So ARM will not be guaranted to be always sync with
+i586 and x86_64, that will depend how fast people can fix ARM bugs.
+
+&gt;<i> Also what about stuff like :
+</I>&gt;<i> - remote shell access ( if there is a arch dependent bugs )
+</I>&gt;<i> - various tests ( automated rebuild, youri, etc )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For remote shell access, we could offer VMs for that, but I can hear rtp
+</I>&gt;<i> screaming as I type this email :).
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, the same could be said about rebuilded, but I do not know how
+</I>&gt;<i> good is the emulation of arm using qemu.
+</I>
+Or later add new ARM machines where people can have shell access.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sometimes we need to deploy updated packages on the buildsystem, for
+</I>&gt;<i> instance for youri, iurt, mgarepo, rpmlint, puppet or others ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the moment we rebuild the package somewhere and install it manually.
+</I>&gt;<i> Or sometimes don't rebuild the package but only copy the modified files
+</I>&gt;<i> (for mdv-youri-submit for instance).
+</I>
+When I have to deploy packages for the BS hosts running Mandriva 2010.1
+x86_64, I usually build the packages with iurt from jonund (IIRC, it's
+the most powerful BS node, so it is less likely to impact normal BS
+users).
+
+Here's a command that can be used (on jonund as iurt user) to rebuild
+a src.rpm for Mandriva 2010.1 (potentially with BR from contrib):
+
+iurt --chrooted-urpmi -m contrib/release main/release -- \
+ <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mandriva/">http://repository.mageia.org/mandriva/</A> -r mandriva2010.1 x86_64 \
+ ./mga-mirrors-0.05-1.mga1.src.rpm
+
+Maybe we could agree on this process to build package updates?
+(i.e. using this iurt command as iurt user on jonund)
+
+&gt;<i> I think it would be convenient to have a repository where we can submit
+</I>&gt;<i> packages using the build system, and enable this repository on all
+</I>&gt;<i> the servers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatly, we are still using Mandriva 2010.1 on the servers, so it
+</I>&gt;<i> is more complicate. What we can do :
+</I>&gt;<i> - Make this repository based on mandriva 2010.1 on the build system
+</I>&gt;<i> - Make this repository based on cauldron on the build system, and use
+</I>&gt;<i> it on our servers running 2010.1. Some packages will not work because
+</I>&gt;<i> of different version of python or perl or other dependency.
+</I>&gt;<i> But we can still use it for youri and rpmlint-mageia-policy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild/install the others manually.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Don't do it now and wait until we migrated the servers to Mageia
+</I>
+It would be convenient to have a repository with our 2010.1 packages,
+using packages built for cauldron won't work.
+
+Though, maybe it's overkill to setup the whole chain (svn, submit,
+youri) for this.
+
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+Olivier Blin - blino
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+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sometimes we need to deploy updated packages on the buildsystem, for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; instance for youri, iurt, mgarepo, rpmlint, puppet or others ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; At the moment we rebuild the package somewhere and install it manually.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or sometimes don't rebuild the package but only copy the modified files
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (for mdv-youri-submit for instance).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I have to deploy packages for the BS hosts running Mandriva 2010.1
+</I>&gt;<i> x86_64, I usually build the packages with iurt from jonund (IIRC, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> the most powerful BS node, so it is less likely to impact normal BS
+</I>&gt;<i> users).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's a command that can be used (on jonund as iurt user) to rebuild
+</I>&gt;<i> a src.rpm for Mandriva 2010.1 (potentially with BR from contrib):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> iurt --chrooted-urpmi -m contrib/release main/release -- \
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mandriva/">http://repository.mageia.org/mandriva/</A> -r mandriva2010.1 x86_64 \
+</I>&gt;<i> ./mga-mirrors-0.05-1.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we could agree on this process to build package updates?
+</I>&gt;<i> (i.e. using this iurt command as iurt user on jonund)
+</I>
+Thanks.
+
+Yes we should agree on a process for this.
+
+We can create a repository in /distrib/mandriva/mgaservers2010.1/x86_64.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think it would be convenient to have a repository where we can submit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages using the build system, and enable this repository on all
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unfortunatly, we are still using Mandriva 2010.1 on the servers, so it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is more complicate. What we can do :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Make this repository based on mandriva 2010.1 on the build system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Make this repository based on cauldron on the build system, and use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it on our servers running 2010.1. Some packages will not work because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of different version of python or perl or other dependency.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But we can still use it for youri and rpmlint-mageia-policy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rebuild/install the others manually.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Don't do it now and wait until we migrated the servers to Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be convenient to have a repository with our 2010.1 packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> using packages built for cauldron won't work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Though, maybe it's overkill to setup the whole chain (svn, submit,
+</I>&gt;<i> youri) for this.
+</I>
+Yes. It would be nice to have a repository with svn, submit, youri, but
+we can wait until we're running Mageia on the servers to do that.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:43:54 +0200, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sat, 26 Mar 2011, Michael scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 10:25:27AM +0100, Micha&#322; Walenciak wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; when I try to import a pkg I get:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; $ mgarepo import /home/michal/rpmbuild/SRPMS/kadu-0.9.0-1.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Importing package to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/kadu">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/kadu</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; error: Connection closed by 212.85.158.147
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 'ssh'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; any ideas?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Still no idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Deap has the same problem, and it was something about &quot;password
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; expired&quot;, so I reset his password to see if this help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I've added deap and kicer86 to mga-committers group. They were not in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the group, I think that was the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yup, likely.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess we should add mga-packages-commiters to the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; access class for svn, or decide that every packager is also a committer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on the whole svn.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is &quot;access class&quot; ? Allow people from mga-packages-commiters to
+</I>&gt;<i> commit, without being in mga-commiters group, and remove the group ?
+</I>
+See deployment/access_classes/manifests/init.pp
+( or <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/access_classes/manifests/init.pp?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/access_classes/manifests/init.pp?view=markup</A> ).
+
+That's the type of access granted on the server.
+
+rabbit is using access_classes::iso_makers
+valstar is using access_classes::committers
+
+Each class then include proper pam_ldap configuration, and
+we can give access to multiple group for each class.
+
+Now, maybe the name doesn't ring a bell, in which case i would be in favor
+of renaming it so it become more obvious so feel free to propose something.
+
+&gt;<i> Actually I tried to see where it is required that user is in
+</I>&gt;<i> mga-commiters group, but I didn't find.
+</I>
+in deployment/access_classes/manifests/init.pp
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's a command that can be used (on jonund as iurt user) to rebuild
+</I>&gt;<i> a src.rpm for Mandriva 2010.1 (potentially with BR from contrib):
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+</I>&gt;<i> iurt --chrooted-urpmi -m contrib/release main/release -- \
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/mandriva/">http://repository.mageia.org/mandriva/</A> -r mandriva2010.1 x86_64 \
+</I>&gt;<i> ./mga-mirrors-0.05-1.mga1.src.rpm
+</I>
+I have added a iurt2010.1 command that can be run as root on jonund to
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+ <B>IBQ. Miguel &#193;ngel Ram&#237;rez Polo</B>
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+I'm MichaelSOG and I have a little problem, or better named, a little
+missunderstanding, in the blog I've a differrent username (that cannot
+be changed) than in the identity.mageia.org, my uid in identity is
+michaelsog, but in the blog I've a diferent one, so here is my question.
+
+Can you change that for me in order to be the same in the blog as it is
+in the identity..mageia? It could be better for me, cause my username in
+the blog is the same as this email, and I don't want to be knowed so
+easily for any person my email address. So that's it. I hope you can help
+me.
+
+Grettings!
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+MichaelSOG
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+am 07.04.2011
+my uid in identity is michaelsog
+
+And while you are at it, could you add him to the i18n members group
+in ldap?
+Oh and please give me little confirmation, when it's done.
+
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+<PRE>Le 07/04/2011 21:28, IBQ. Miguel &#193;ngel Ram&#237;rez Polo a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm MichaelSOG and I have a little problem, or better named, a little
+</I>&gt;<i> missunderstanding, in the blog I've a differrent username (that cannot
+</I>&gt;<i> be changed) than in the identity.mageia.org, my uid in identity is
+</I>&gt;<i> michaelsog, but in the blog I've a diferent one, so here is my question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you change that for me in order to be the same in the blog as it is
+</I>&gt;<i> in the identity..mageia? It could be better for me, cause my username in
+</I>&gt;<i> the blog is the same as this email, and I don't want to be knowed so
+</I>&gt;<i> easily for any person my email address. So that's it. I hope you can
+</I>&gt;<i> help me.
+</I>
+Hello,
+
+As explained on IRC, no LDAP support for now in WP but it's in the
+roadmap. It will work in a few weeks.
+You can change your nickname in the user interface of WP (just the
+displayed nickname, not your login).
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Damien Lallement
+aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter
+
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> cryptsetup is already in the distro (and this is the one imported from
+</I>&gt;<i> mdv with svn log and all). cryptsetup-luks is the exact same package,
+</I>&gt;<i> wrongly imported from Fedora (I think, Fedora, but not sure).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please remove all cryptsetup-luks binary and src.rpm, I've already
+</I>&gt;<i> removed it from SVN.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+As todo list on the wiki for sysadmin was not updated for a long time, I
+looked at list of things we have to do.
+
+For the buildsystem :
+
+ Youri :
+ * use upstream version of youri from zarb
+ * add support for new architectures (if we decide to add ARM as
+ supported architecture)
+ * keep compilation logs for sucessful builds (for the last version of each
+ package) #670
+ * support building packages for core and tainted repositories #340
+ * add priorities on builds, to be able to submit builds with low priority
+ which are done when all other builds with higher priority are done
+ * add support for dependencies between builds and/or api to allow
+ scripting on client side. #631
+ * add command to cancel a build #635
+ * Decide if we use a database to store build infos, or continue to
+ save them inside files and paths.
+
+ iurt :
+ * use linux containers #667
+ * allow to generate src.rpm from svn in the chroot #392
+ * do benchmarks with multiple builds on the same node, to see if we can
+ still have acceptable performance. Two builds on each node would
+ avoid blocking the build system for a few hours when there is a big
+ package building
+
+ mgarepo :
+ * add support for branches
+ * use anonymous svn in create-srpm so we don't need ssh agent
+ * add kill command #318
+
+ Other :
+ * send commit emails for commits from apprentice
+ * send failed build emails to submitter
+ * enable ssh keys from ldap on valstar. Export is working (and used on
+ rabbit), but we need to import all ssh keys on filesystem to ldap.
+ * make tool to move/remove packages from repository (like rpmctl)
+ * see how to manage groups alias for bugzilla / maintainers db
+
+And other things :
+
+- setup wiki
+- setup pastebin
+- create tool to save and share passwords <A HREF="http://is.gd/KDtys0">http://is.gd/KDtys0</A>
+- finish setup of git repositories. Decide which tools to use to manage
+ git repositories (or create our tools to do it).
+
+
+Do you see something to add ? Or to remove/change ? Or other comments ?
+
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+&gt;<i> And other things :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup pastebin
+</I>&gt;<i> - create tool to save and share passwords <A HREF="http://is.gd/KDtys0">http://is.gd/KDtys0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - finish setup of git repositories. Decide which tools to use to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;git repositories (or create our tools to do it).
+</I>
+I don't see the need to create one, as i see 2 tools gitorious and
+redmine ( and/or the fork ).
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And other things :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup pastebin
+</I>&gt;<i> - create tool to save and share passwords <A HREF="http://is.gd/KDtys0">http://is.gd/KDtys0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - finish setup of git repositories. Decide which tools to use to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;git repositories (or create our tools to do it).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you see something to add ? Or to remove/change ? Or other comments ?
+</I>
+I don't know if this is sysadmin or forum admin task:
+ - setup the German forum
+
+--
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+gvfs 1.6.x is the branch that's more suitable for GNOME 2.32.
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+I've reverted to 1.6.x in svn, so please remove all gvfs-1.7.x:
+gvfs-archive
+gvfs-fuse
+gvfs-gphoto2
+gvfs
+gvfs-obexftp
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+So that I can submit the gvfs-1.6.7.
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+Thanks.
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+&gt;<i> On 6 April 2011 18:06, Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cryptsetup is already in the distro (and this is the one imported from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mdv with svn log and all). cryptsetup-luks is the exact same package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrongly imported from Fedora (I think, Fedora, but not sure).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please remove all cryptsetup-luks binary and src.rpm, I've already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> removed it from SVN.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> I mistakenly updated gvfs to 1.7.x about two weeks ago. It turns out,
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs 1.6.x is the branch that's more suitable for GNOME 2.32.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've reverted to 1.6.x in svn, so please remove all gvfs-1.7.x:
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs-archive
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs-fuse
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs-gphoto2
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs-obexftp
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs-smb
+</I>&gt;<i> lib*gvfs0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib*gvfs-devel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that I can submit the gvfs-1.6.7.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Done.
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+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As todo list on the wiki for sysadmin was not updated for a long time, I
+</I>&gt;<i> looked at list of things we have to do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the buildsystem :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Youri :
+</I>&gt;<i> * use upstream version of youri from zarb
+</I>&gt;<i> * add support for new architectures (if we decide to add ARM as
+</I>&gt;<i> supported architecture)
+</I>&gt;<i> * keep compilation logs for sucessful builds (for the last version of each
+</I>&gt;<i> package) #670
+</I>&gt;<i> * support building packages for core and tainted repositories #340
+</I>&gt;<i> * add priorities on builds, to be able to submit builds with low priority
+</I>&gt;<i> which are done when all other builds with higher priority are done
+</I>&gt;<i> * add support for dependencies between builds and/or api to allow
+</I>&gt;<i> scripting on client side. #631
+</I>&gt;<i> * add command to cancel a build #635
+</I>&gt;<i> * Decide if we use a database to store build infos, or continue to
+</I>&gt;<i> save them inside files and paths.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> iurt :
+</I>&gt;<i> * use linux containers #667
+</I>&gt;<i> * allow to generate src.rpm from svn in the chroot #392
+</I>&gt;<i> * do benchmarks with multiple builds on the same node, to see if we can
+</I>&gt;<i> still have acceptable performance. Two builds on each node would
+</I>&gt;<i> avoid blocking the build system for a few hours when there is a big
+</I>&gt;<i> package building
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mgarepo :
+</I>&gt;<i> * add support for branches
+</I>&gt;<i> * use anonymous svn in create-srpm so we don't need ssh agent
+</I>&gt;<i> * add kill command #318
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Other :
+</I>&gt;<i> * send commit emails for commits from apprentice
+</I>&gt;<i> * send failed build emails to submitter
+</I>&gt;<i> * enable ssh keys from ldap on valstar. Export is working (and used on
+</I>&gt;<i> rabbit), but we need to import all ssh keys on filesystem to ldap.
+</I>&gt;<i> * make tool to move/remove packages from repository (like rpmctl)
+</I>&gt;<i> * see how to manage groups alias for bugzilla / maintainers db
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And other things :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> - setup pastebin
+</I>&gt;<i> - create tool to save and share passwords <A HREF="http://is.gd/KDtys0">http://is.gd/KDtys0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - finish setup of git repositories. Decide which tools to use to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> git repositories (or create our tools to do it).
+</I>- setup backup
+- setup redundant ldap, postfix
+- migrate forum vm to another host
+- sign iso and keys with our keys
+( maybe others )
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:02 AM, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And other things :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - setup wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - setup pastebin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - create tool to save and share passwords <A HREF="http://is.gd/KDtys0">http://is.gd/KDtys0</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - finish setup of git repositories. Decide which tools to use to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;git repositories (or create our tools to do it).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see the need to create one, as i see 2 tools gitorious and
+</I>&gt;<i> redmine ( and/or the fork ).
+</I>
+First we need to check if it's doing what we want. And check that we
+all agree on what it should do. I didn't look in details, but :
+ - I think gitorious allows anybody to create his own repositories. But
+ I think what we want is shared repositories, and I don't know if we
+ want to host personal ones too.
+ - We need to see how we manage commit permissions. We probably want to
+ use ldap groups for this, I don't know if it's possible with
+ gitorious/redmine
+ - gitorious or redmine include wikis, forums, bug tracker. Maybe we
+ don't want that, so we should be able to disable them.
+ - We probably want to add pre-commit/post-commit scripts to send emails
+ or do other things. It's probably possible to add them automatically
+ for every repository if we create them using puppet. I don't know if
+ that's possible with gitorious/redmine.
+ - if we host git repositories on valstar, we want to avoid hosting web
+ interface on valstar too, so we should check if it's possible with
+ gitorious/redmine
+ - if we only use this tool to create new repositories and have a web
+ interface to show commits but use none of the advanced features of
+ gitorious/redmine, maybe a few scripts in puppet and gitweb is more
+ simple than customising gitorious/redmine to do exactly what we want.
+
+So someone needs to see exactly what is needed, with people that will use
+the repositories, and look at all available tools to be able to decide
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+&gt;<i> First we need to check if it's doing what we want. And check that we
+</I>&gt;<i> all agree on what it should do. I didn't look in details, but :
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- I think gitorious allows anybody to create his own repositories. But
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; I think what we want is shared repositories, and I don't know if we
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; want to host personal ones too.
+</I>
+The whole interest of gitorious is precisely that (easily forking a
+repository for pushing patches afterwise). If we cut this off, we
+better not use this solution at all.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- We need to see how we manage commit permissions. We probably want to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; use ldap groups for this, I don't know if it's possible with
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; gitorious/redmine
+</I>
+About gitorious, I don't know if we can interface with its own ACLs,
+but there's a web-based UI for managing that there, per repository.
+Better use it.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- gitorious or redmine include wikis, forums, bug tracker. Maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; don't want that, so we should be able to disable them.
+</I>
+Yep. Or consider that is a separate forge.
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;- if we only use this tool to create new repositories and have a web
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; interface to show commits but use none of the advanced features of
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; gitorious/redmine, maybe a few scripts in puppet and gitweb is more
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; simple than customising gitorious/redmine to do exactly what we want.
+</I>
+The point is: do we use a tool that already builds a multi-projects
+forge, or do we build our own?
+
+For the distribution and Mageia project itself, everything revolves
+around a few monolithic bits at this time: Bugzilla, SVN, buildsystem.
+
+If we want to give separate &quot;upstream&quot; identities to software in /soft
+(or to some tools still buried down here and there), each one should
+have its own:
+ - fully customizable web page (with an obvious path to it) - with a
+default template provided for those who don't need/want to customize
+ - documentation/wiki
+ - bug/feature tracker
+ - code repository + web output of it
+ - perhaps a mini blog, but a forum seems less likely to happen there
+
+If we want to give some flexibility into the project to incumbate
+small projects to embbed into or derive from Mageia, creating such a
+new &quot;upstream&quot; project should be, at least for some people, as easy as
+using a single web form - so yes, it would be somehow like what
+tuxfamily, savannah, indefero, google code, github, etc. - shall we
+use these instead then? I believe we are not all in sync about this.
+
+So the question is: do we build this with something existing that
+duplicates somehow what we have already, and integrate it as we can?
+or do we build this on top of what we already have?
+
+&gt;<i> So someone needs to see exactly what is needed, with people that will use
+</I>&gt;<i> the repositories, and look at all available tools to be able to decide
+</I>&gt;<i> what we should use.
+</I>
+We've got to decide at some points too. Or we will still be at this
+point in 6 months.
+
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:03, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; First we need to check if it's doing what we want. And check that we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; all agree on what it should do. I didn't look in details, but :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;- I think gitorious allows anybody to create his own repositories. But
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; I think what we want is shared repositories, and I don't know if we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; want to host personal ones too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The whole interest of gitorious is precisely that (easily forking a
+</I>&gt;<i> repository for pushing patches afterwise). If we cut this off, we
+</I>&gt;<i> better not use this solution at all.
+</I>
+We can always fork, the issue is &quot;should we host it on our servers ?&quot;, and
+&quot;should we do it now ?&quot;.
+
+A side question is &quot;should we let anybody use the ressources or not ?&quot;
+( ie, anybody with a identity account could do anything or not ). I would be
+in favor of that, but my own experience with i18n where the team decided to have
+people join local team before having access show that contributers may have a different
+view.
+
+So we can propose some stuff, but it is up to the developpers to see what they would prefer
+( even if not formally said, everybody seems to agree on git ).
+
+And the issue with gitorious is the complexity of the deployment, so maybe we could
+settle for a simplified approach as a start, like the one used on freedesktop
+or kde ( shell script based ).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; So someone needs to see exactly what is needed, with people that will use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the repositories, and look at all available tools to be able to decide
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what we should use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've got to decide at some points too. Or we will still be at this
+</I>&gt;<i> point in 6 months.
+</I>
+Even if we decide on those points, we still have a good TODO list, so the question
+will then become : &quot;what is more urgent ?&quot;.
+
+I did gitorious testing, and on a scale from 1 &quot;deploy rsync&quot; to 10 &quot;deploy buildsystem&quot;,
+it will rank as &quot;12&quot;. I like the idea, and the challenge, but maybe we could find a better
+deal by starting with a tradeoff.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 04/04/11 23:06 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> tis 2011-04-05 klockan 00:58 +0300 skrev Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le mardi 05 avril 2011 &#224; 00:51 +0300, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have now added:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> changelog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages-commits
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> soft-commits
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to be tracked by Gmane.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Afaik, you need to open a identity account for that to work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( colin already tried, I also spoke of the issue 6 months ago when we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> talked about it )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I got a mail from Gmane admins stating sympa dont allow subscriptions,
+</I>&gt;<i> and they asked to manually add a specific mail for the lists I wanted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I just logged into sympa, selected proper list, chose &quot;manage
+</I>&gt;<i> subscriptions&quot;, pasted in the mail address in &quot;Add an user&quot; and thats
+</I>&gt;<i> all needed...
+</I>
+D'oh!
+
+I did wonder about this and asked Misc if it was tied to LDAP so gave up
+when it was confirmed that it was indeed tied to LDAP.
+
+I had wondered if there was a way to always CC a given address to work
+around this but this approach seems easier!!!
+
+Thanks
+
+Col
+
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+mageia(at)colin.guthr.ie
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
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+Open Source:
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 8 14:46:14 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>I'm getting these a lot in my inbox.
+
+Can we silence them by adding an alias for youri@?
+
+Either that or just fix the perl error :D
+
+&quot;my&quot; variable $allowed_ids masks earlier declaration in same scope at
+/usr/share/youri/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Dependencies.pm line 123.
+
+:<i>D
+</I>
+Sorry if this has been discussed before....
+
+Col
+
+
+-------- Original Message --------
+Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:10:02 +0200 (CEST)
+From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">MAILER-DAEMON at mageia.org</A> (Mail Delivery System)
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>
+
+This is the mail system at host alamut.mageia.org.
+
+I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
+be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
+
+For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
+
+If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
+delete your own text from the attached returned message.
+
+ The mail system
+
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">youri at mageia.org</A>&gt; (expanded from &lt;youri&gt;): unknown user: &quot;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">youri at mageia.org</A>&quot;
+
+-------------- next part --------------
+An embedded message was scrubbed...
+From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> (Cron Daemon)
+Subject: Cron &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">youri at alamut</A>&gt; youri-check -c /etc/youri/cauldron.conf report
+Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 14:10:02 +0200 (CEST)
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ <I>Fri Apr 8 15:28:46 CEST 2011</I>
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+&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir skrev 8.4.2011 01:44:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 April 2011 18:06, Ahmad Samir&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cryptsetup is already in the distro (and this is the one imported from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mdv with svn log and all). cryptsetup-luks is the exact same package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrongly imported from Fedora (I think, Fedora, but not sure).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please remove all cryptsetup-luks binary and src.rpm, I've already
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> removed it from SVN.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ping.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks.
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir skrev 8.4.2011 06:24:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I mistakenly updated gvfs to 1.7.x about two weeks ago. It turns out,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs 1.6.x is the branch that's more suitable for GNOME 2.32.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've reverted to 1.6.x in svn, so please remove all gvfs-1.7.x:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs-archive
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs-fuse
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs-gphoto2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs-obexftp
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gvfs-smb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib*gvfs0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib*gvfs-devel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So that I can submit the gvfs-1.6.7.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ThanksX2. :)
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i>
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 08 Apr 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I'm getting these a lot in my inbox.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we silence them by adding an alias for youri@?
+</I>
+I tried to change cron to send email to root instead of youri :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/youri-check/manifests/init.pp?r1=1486&amp;r2=1488">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/youri-check/manifests/init.pp?r1=1486&amp;r2=1488</A>
+
+But it seems it doesn't work.
+
+
+Content of youri crontab on rabbit :
+
+# crontab -l -u youri
+# HEADER: This file was autogenerated at Wed Apr 06 19:25:52 +0200 2011 by puppet.
+# HEADER: While it can still be managed manually, it is definitely not recommended.
+# HEADER: Note particularly that the comments starting with 'Puppet Name' should
+# HEADER: not be deleted, as doing so could cause duplicate cron jobs.
+# Puppet Name: check
+MAILTO=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>
+4 * * * * youri-check -c /etc/youri/cauldron.conf test
+
+If anyone knows how to ask cron to send email to an other adress ...
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm getting these a lot in my inbox.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Can we silence them by adding an alias for youri@?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried to change cron to send email to root instead of youri :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/youri-check/manifests/init.pp?r1=1486&amp;r2=1488">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/modules/youri-check/manifests/init.pp?r1=1486&amp;r2=1488</A>
+</I>
+I replaced MAILTO=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> by MAILTO=root to see if it works
+better.
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+&gt;<i> Revision: 1495
+</I>&gt;<i> Author: boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: 2011-04-08 01:13:43 +0200 (Fri, 08 Apr 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message:
+</I>&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> set timezone it php.ini
+</I>
+this was already handled 6 weeks ago :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm?view=revision&amp;revision=1185">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm?view=revision&amp;revision=1185</A>
+
+Using apache configuration instead of php.ini was done
+so we could :
+- integrate it nicely with the existing system ( ie, restart apache when there is
+a change, reduce interdependencies modules )
+
+- do it per server without using custom copy for each ( or even per directory, so
+we could have a custom time for each forum to help users )
+
+- having less changes to do to the default configuration, and
+clearly see where are our customisations ( could help in case of bug report ).
+
+And well, it was working fine iirc, so something got changed that broke this.
+( or maybe it never worked ).
+
+rpm -qa --last do not show anything new, and
+I do not have time to inspect the server toroughly before next week.
+
+But I think we should :
+1) try to see why it no longer worked
+2) reuse the apache based solution solution as we will have some flexibility
+issues later ( like the day where we will have test server with debug on and
+some with debug off ).
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:13:44AM +0200, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Revision: 1495
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Author: boklm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Date: 2011-04-08 01:13:43 +0200 (Fri, 08 Apr 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Log Message:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -----------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; set timezone it php.ini
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this was already handled 6 weeks ago :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm?view=revision&amp;revision=1185">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm?view=revision&amp;revision=1185</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Using apache configuration instead of php.ini was done
+</I>&gt;<i> so we could :
+</I>&gt;<i> - integrate it nicely with the existing system ( ie, restart apache when there is
+</I>&gt;<i> a change, reduce interdependencies modules )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - do it per server without using custom copy for each ( or even per directory, so
+</I>&gt;<i> we could have a custom time for each forum to help users )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - having less changes to do to the default configuration, and
+</I>&gt;<i> clearly see where are our customisations ( could help in case of bug report ).
+</I>
+Oops, I didn't see it was already done in apache config. Indeed it is
+better to do it there.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And well, it was working fine iirc, so something got changed that broke this.
+</I>&gt;<i> ( or maybe it never worked ).
+</I>
+The problem appeared after adding the php module to modify the sendmail
+command in php.ini (but not doing any other change in php.ini), when I
+restarted puppet which was blocked.
+
+So I will remove the puppet php module I added, and do all changes using
+apache config.
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+If you could give me some feedback, when it's done,
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think we should :
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) try to see why it no longer worked
+</I>
+So I found why it was not working :
+
+php date.timezone was set in apache config to $timezone (variable from
+facter) which is CEST on friteuse, and an incorrect value for date.timezone.
+
+So I set it to UTC (without using $timezone) and now the error
+disappeared.
+
+I think we didn't see the error before because puppet was frozen,
+so the change not applied (I don't know what was the config before).
+
+I don't know if it's related, but I also noticed a few times while
+running puppet manually on friteuse that it became frozen when or after
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> NFrance is the company that prepared a server for hosting Mageia forums.
+</I>&gt;<i> They asked me when will the forum be installed in it, so as I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know, I directly forward the question to you, admins :)
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+Hello,
+
+Who should we contact to get access infos to the server ?
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011, Michael scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I think we should :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) try to see why it no longer worked
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I found why it was not working :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> php date.timezone was set in apache config to $timezone (variable from
+</I>&gt;<i> facter) which is CEST on friteuse, and an incorrect value for date.timezone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I set it to UTC (without using $timezone) and now the error
+</I>&gt;<i> disappeared.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we didn't see the error before because puppet was frozen,
+</I>&gt;<i> so the change not applied (I don't know what was the config before).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if it's related, but I also noticed a few times while
+</I>&gt;<i> running puppet manually on friteuse that it became frozen when or after
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to stop/start xymon-client.
+</I>
+Ah, that's why I kept getting warnings from phpbb debug whenever I
+open a thread (viewtopic.php) in the forum:
+-------------------------------------
+[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /viewtopic.php on line 988: date():
+It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are
+*required* to use the date.timezone setting or the
+date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those
+methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely
+misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/Berlin' for
+'CEST/2.0/DST' instead
+[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file /viewtopic.php on line 988:
+getdate(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings.
+You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the
+date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those
+methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely
+misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/Berlin' for
+'CEST/2.0/DST' instead
+-------------------------------------
+
+I thought it was a forum setup problem and posted it there:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=66">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=66</A>
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+Now the debug messages are gone.
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+ulri is now running two builds on each node at the same time.
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+This improve a lot the average time to have a package built, when a big
+package like libreoffice is in the queue.
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+However I don't know what happens with many smaller packages in the
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+So I propose to make a list of 20 packages that we rebuild, with one
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ulri is now running two builds on each node at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This improve a lot the average time to have a package built, when a big
+</I>&gt;<i> package like libreoffice is in the queue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However I don't know what happens with many smaller packages in the
+</I>&gt;<i> queue. To make sure it is still acceptable, we should do a benchmark.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I propose to make a list of 20 packages that we rebuild, with one
+</I>&gt;<i> build on each node, and again with two builds on each node. And compare
+</I>&gt;<i> the time it took to build all packages, in each case.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I plan to do this tonight, when build of libreoffice is finished.
+</I>
+Another case which I fear is the build of two huge packages (like
+kernel + kernel-tmb)
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 15:55, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ulri is now running two builds on each node at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This improve a lot the average time to have a package built, when a big
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package like libreoffice is in the queue.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However I don't know what happens with many smaller packages in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; queue. To make sure it is still acceptable, we should do a benchmark.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I propose to make a list of 20 packages that we rebuild, with one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; build on each node, and again with two builds on each node. And compare
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the time it took to build all packages, in each case.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I plan to do this tonight, when build of libreoffice is finished.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another case which I fear is the build of two huge packages (like
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel + kernel-tmb)
+</I>
+So we should also try building kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time
+on one node. Using iurt directly, to avoid uploading useless new packages.
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+<PRE>l&#246;r 2011-04-09 klockan 17:55 +0300 skrev nicolas vigier:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ulri is now running two builds on each node at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This improve a lot the average time to have a package built, when a big
+</I>&gt;<i> package like libreoffice is in the queue.
+</I>
+
+Well, many of the bigger builds are io bound and not cpu bound
+
+For example a kernel build isn't capable of using all cpu power
+available due to io starvation...
+
+So IMHO we should add a second disc to both buildnodes and move the
+second buildbot to the new disc to share the io load.
+
+An other option is of course to set basesystem as raid1 and use the rest
+of the disks in raid0 to get faster io too...
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+--
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+&gt;<i> I'd like you to add two more people to the i18n ldap groups:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> commiter:
+</I>&gt;<i> olorin
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+</I>&gt;<i> member:
+</I>&gt;<i> michaelsog (if not already in)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you could give me some feedback, when it's done,
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Rapha&#235;l Jadot wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; NFrance is the company that prepared a server for hosting Mageia forums.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; They asked me when will the forum be installed in it, so as I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; know, I directly forward the question to you, admins :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who should we contact to get access infos to the server ?
+</I>
+Maat does have it, I said i would contact him, but couldnt do in time.
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+For authentication on the forums, we are currently using ldap. The user
+sends his login and passwords to phpbb which use it to authenticate on
+ldap server. Because of this, someone with root access on the forums
+server can access password of any user connecting to the forums. And
+because important passwords are transfered, the connection needs to be
+in SSL, so the *.mageia.org certificate also needs to be installed. So
+access to the server needs to be restricted to sysadmin team only, who
+also need to be able to check what is being done on forums, check it is
+secure, etc ... And I think this makes forums admins not happy.
+
+As we are using ldap for authentication only (not for groups or anything
+else), I think we could do authentication differently. Maybe we could
+setup a mageia OpenID server linked to the ldap server. Then on the
+forums use OpenID for authentication, when a user enter his login on
+the forums he is redirected to the mageia OpenID authentication page
+for the login entered. Then we can disable https on the forums, and
+forum admins can be root on the forums server. And passwords are better
+protected in case phpbb has a vulnerability.
+
+Sysadmin team would manage openid server. And forum team would manage
+forums server.
+
+I've seen this project for phpbb3 openid authentication (I didn't check
+if there are others) :
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpbb-openid/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpbb-openid/</A>
+
+Login form looks like this :
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989">http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989</A>
+We would need to modify it to remove Username/Password. Replace &quot;OpenID&quot;
+with &quot;Mageia login&quot; and automatically use Mageia OpenID server with the
+login entered. So that each account on the forum is still linked to a
+Mageia account.
+
+What do you think ?
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+<PRE>On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Thomas Backlund wrote:
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+&gt;<i> l&#246;r 2011-04-09 klockan 17:55 +0300 skrev nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ulri is now running two builds on each node at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This improve a lot the average time to have a package built, when a big
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package like libreoffice is in the queue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, many of the bigger builds are io bound and not cpu bound
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example a kernel build isn't capable of using all cpu power
+</I>&gt;<i> available due to io starvation...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So IMHO we should add a second disc to both buildnodes and move the
+</I>&gt;<i> second buildbot to the new disc to share the io load.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> An other option is of course to set basesystem as raid1 and use the rest
+</I>&gt;<i> of the disks in raid0 to get faster io too...
+</I>
+I removed jonund from buildsystem to run some tests on it. I am
+currently rebuilding kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time on it.
+
+And it seems the CPU does not spend a lot of time waiting for IO :
+Cpu(s): 94.2%us, 5.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
+Mem: 8181404k total, 7710776k used, 470628k free, 427864k buffers
+Swap: 8185076k total, 85332k used, 8099744k free, 4996808k cached
+
+When this is finished, I will rebuild kernel and kernel-tmb separatly
+to compare time.
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+&gt;<i> Login form looks like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989">http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would need to modify it to remove Username/Password. Replace &quot;OpenID&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> with &quot;Mageia login&quot; and automatically use Mageia OpenID server with the
+</I>&gt;<i> login entered. So that each account on the forum is still linked to a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hello, even though I can't have a technical answer as I did not really
+look at Mageia authentication system (Blingme is certainly the right
+person), I like the idea of using OpenID
+However, if an openid is linked to a ldap account, i think having a
+mageia openID has to be optional (the concept of openID is to be
+decentralized).
+In return, a mageia OpenID can also be used in other websites using
+openID authentication.
+
+--
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+<PRE>On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Rapha&#235;l Jadot wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 2011/4/11 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Login form looks like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989">http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We would need to modify it to remove Username/Password. Replace &quot;OpenID&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with &quot;Mageia login&quot; and automatically use Mageia OpenID server with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; login entered. So that each account on the forum is still linked to a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia account.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello, even though I can't have a technical answer as I did not really
+</I>&gt;<i> look at Mageia authentication system (Blingme is certainly the right
+</I>&gt;<i> person), I like the idea of using OpenID
+</I>&gt;<i> However, if an openid is linked to a ldap account, i think having a
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia openID has to be optional (the concept of openID is to be
+</I>&gt;<i> decentralized).
+</I>
+The reason for only accepting OpenID from mageia, is to have a link
+between the forum account and mageia account. If we allow any OpenID
+server to be used on the forum, we don't know if a user on the forum
+corresponds to the same user on Mageia accounts.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For authentication on the forums, we are currently using ldap. The user
+</I>&gt;<i> sends his login and passwords to phpbb which use it to authenticate on
+</I>&gt;<i> ldap server. Because of this, someone with root access on the forums
+</I>&gt;<i> server can access password of any user connecting to the forums. And
+</I>&gt;<i> because important passwords are transfered, the connection needs to be
+</I>&gt;<i> in SSL, so the *.mageia.org certificate also needs to be installed. So
+</I>&gt;<i> access to the server needs to be restricted to sysadmin team only, who
+</I>&gt;<i> also need to be able to check what is being done on forums, check it is
+</I>&gt;<i> secure, etc ... And I think this makes forums admins not happy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As we are using ldap for authentication only (not for groups or anything
+</I>&gt;<i> else), I think we could do authentication differently. Maybe we could
+</I>&gt;<i> setup a mageia OpenID server linked to the ldap server. Then on the
+</I>&gt;<i> forums use OpenID for authentication, when a user enter his login on
+</I>&gt;<i> the forums he is redirected to the mageia OpenID authentication page
+</I>&gt;<i> for the login entered. Then we can disable https on the forums, and
+</I>&gt;<i> forum admins can be root on the forums server. And passwords are better
+</I>&gt;<i> protected in case phpbb has a vulnerability.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+One question...
+
+Why would forum admins need to be root ?
+
+Most things can be managed with specific user/group permissions on
+needed files &amp; dirs. same goes for sql... just add db user with needed
+permissions...
+
+
+&gt;<i> Sysadmin team would manage openid server. And forum team would manage
+</I>&gt;<i> forums server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've seen this project for phpbb3 openid authentication (I didn't check
+</I>&gt;<i> if there are others) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpbb-openid/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpbb-openid/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Login form looks like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989">http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would need to modify it to remove Username/Password. Replace &quot;OpenID&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> with &quot;Mageia login&quot; and automatically use Mageia OpenID server with the
+</I>&gt;<i> login entered. So that each account on the forum is still linked to a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 10 Apr 2011, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; l&#246;r 2011-04-09 klockan 17:55 +0300 skrev nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ulri is now running two builds on each node at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This improve a lot the average time to have a package built, when a big
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; package like libreoffice is in the queue.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, many of the bigger builds are io bound and not cpu bound
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For example a kernel build isn't capable of using all cpu power
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; available due to io starvation...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So IMHO we should add a second disc to both buildnodes and move the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; second buildbot to the new disc to share the io load.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; An other option is of course to set basesystem as raid1 and use the rest
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of the disks in raid0 to get faster io too...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I removed jonund from buildsystem to run some tests on it. I am
+</I>&gt;<i> currently rebuilding kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time on it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And it seems the CPU does not spend a lot of time waiting for IO :
+</I>&gt;<i> Cpu(s): 94.2%us, 5.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
+</I>&gt;<i> Mem: 8181404k total, 7710776k used, 470628k free, 427864k buffers
+</I>&gt;<i> Swap: 8185076k total, 85332k used, 8099744k free, 4996808k cached
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When this is finished, I will rebuild kernel and kernel-tmb separatly
+</I>&gt;<i> to compare time.
+</I>
+So the logs of build of kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time :
+Mon Apr 11 15:26:44 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+Mon Apr 11 15:27:01 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+Mon Apr 11 16:17:26 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+Mon Apr 11 17:43:47 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+
+It took 50 minutes to rebuild kernel-tmb (with kernel building at the
+same time).
+
+And 2 hours and 17 minutes to rebuild kernel (with kernel-tmb building
+during the first 50 minutes).
+
+It seems most of the time to rebuild kernel package was spent to install
+files and generate all binary packages.
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier skrev 11.4.2011 18:57:
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+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I removed jonund from buildsystem to run some tests on it. I am
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> currently rebuilding kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time on it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And it seems the CPU does not spend a lot of time waiting for IO :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cpu(s): 94.2%us, 5.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 0.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mem: 8181404k total, 7710776k used, 470628k free, 427864k buffers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Swap: 8185076k total, 85332k used, 8099744k free, 4996808k cached
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear enough... as seen below:
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> When this is finished, I will rebuild kernel and kernel-tmb separatly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to compare time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the logs of build of kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time :
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 15:26:44 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 15:27:01 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 16:17:26 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 17:43:47 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It took 50 minutes to rebuild kernel-tmb (with kernel building at the
+</I>&gt;<i> same time).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And 2 hours and 17 minutes to rebuild kernel (with kernel-tmb building
+</I>&gt;<i> during the first 50 minutes).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems most of the time to rebuild kernel package was spent to install
+</I>&gt;<i> files and generate all binary packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep, it takes 2 kernel builds to get all cpus maxed out on jonund
+
+
+and here is where the io comes in:
+
+during unpackaging and repackaging of big tarballs, and when compressing
+the modules and generating the binary rpms (especially kernel -debug
+rpms are huge)... at this point cpu goes down and io is kept busy...
+
+So here it would help if the other build would be running on another disk...
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the logs of build of kernel and kernel-tmb at the same time :
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 15:26:44 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 15:27:01 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 16:17:26 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mon Apr 11 17:43:47 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It took 50 minutes to rebuild kernel-tmb (with kernel building at the
+</I>&gt;<i> same time).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And 2 hours and 17 minutes to rebuild kernel (with kernel-tmb building
+</I>&gt;<i> during the first 50 minutes).
+</I>
+And the logs from building kernel-tmb and kernel separatly :
+Mon Apr 11 17:59:05 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+Mon Apr 11 18:20:13 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-tmb-2.6.38.2-1.mga1
+Mon Apr 11 18:21:28 CEST 2011 : startbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+Mon Apr 11 20:21:22 CEST 2011 : endbuild for kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1
+
+It took 21 minutes for kernel-tmb. And 2 hours for kernel.
+
+So the total is 2h21 when building separatly, and 2h17 when building
+both at the same time.
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+We have a problem with some packages that are only uploaded to x86_64
+repository.
+
+One example is rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1 submitted 7 hours ago by
+ennael.
+
+In emi logs :
+N: [emi] processing 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+I: [emi] mandatory architecture i586 present: yes (in cache)
+I: [emi] mandatory architecture x86_64 present: yes
+I: [emi] mandatory architecture src present: yes
+O: [emi] all archs done: 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+O: [emi] uploading rdiff-backup-debug-1.3.3-3.mga1.x86_64.rpm in /var/lib/schedbot/uploads/done//cauldron/core/release
+O: [emi] uploading rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.x86_64.rpm in /var/lib/schedbot/uploads/done//cauldron/core/release
+O: [emi] uploading @83243:rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.src.rpm in /var/lib/schedbot/uploads/done//cauldron/core/release
+I: [emi] upload succeeded
+
+In ulri before :
+*: [ulri] launching new compilations
+I: [ulri] building on jonund0/x86_64 (iurt)
+N: [ulri] Send to jonund0/x86_64: @83243:rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.src.rpm
+I: [ulri] Execute build command on jonund0/x86_64
+I: [ulri] building on jonund1/i586 (iurt)
+N: [ulri] Send to jonund1/i586: @83243:rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.src.rpm
+I: [ulri] Execute build command on jonund1/i586
+*: [ulri] Current status
+I: [ulri] currently building:
+I: [ulri] ecosse0/i586: 20110411115356.dams.valstar.18880
+I: [ulri] jobs in queue: none
+
+Next ulri run has this:
+I: [ulri] delete lock file for 20110411115356.dams.valstar.18880
+I: [ulri] check status: jonund1/i586 (iurt [29232])
+I: [ulri] check result: jonund1/i586 (iurt [29232])
+*: [ulri] checking for i586 arch
+O: [ulri] build ok: @83243:rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.src.rpm
+I: [ulri] delete lock file for 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+F: [ulri] iurt timed out on jonund1/i586 (58 sec) or it's dead (status S), removing lock
+I: [ulri] check status: jonund0/x86_64 (iurt [29198])
+I: [ulri] check result: jonund0/x86_64 (iurt [29198])
+*: [ulri] checking for x86_64 arch
+O: [ulri] build ok: @83243:rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.src.rpm
+O: [ulri] build ok: rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+O: [ulri] build ok: rdiff-backup-debug-1.3.3-3.mga1.x86_64.rpm
+I: [ulri] delete lock file for 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+*: [ulri] launching new compilations
+I: [ulri] building on jonund0/i586 (iurt)
+N: [ulri] Send to jonund0/i586: @83243:rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1.src.rpm
+I: [ulri] Execute build command on jonund0/i586
+*: [ulri] Current status
+I: [ulri] currently building:
+I: [ulri] jonund1/i586: 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+I: [ulri] jonund0/x86_64: 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+I: [ulri] ecosse0/i586: 20110411115356.dams.valstar.18880
+I: [ulri] jobs in queue: none
+
+
+Maybe it is related to building the same package on i586 and x86_64 on
+the same node. So I disabled this until we find the problem.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We have a problem with some packages that are only uploaded to x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> repository.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One example is rdiff-backup-1.3.3-3.mga1 submitted 7 hours ago by
+</I>&gt;<i> ennael.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In emi logs :
+</I>&gt;<i> N: [emi] processing 20110411120928.ennael.valstar.21104
+</I>&gt;<i> I: [emi] &#160;mandatory architecture i586 present: yes (in cache)
+</I>
+(in cache) is bad, it means the .done is found but no packages for that arch
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe it is related to building the same package on i586 and x86_64 on
+</I>&gt;<i> the same node. So I disabled this until we find the problem.
+</I>
+Yes seems likely
+Looking at the code, when there is a noarch subpackage it will believe
+that the arch is done, even if the noarch subpackage was build for the
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+$ rpm --showrc | grep mgaver
+-14: mgaver 1
+-14: mgaversion %(perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)'
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+this should be fixed before first release.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, it takes 2 kernel builds to get all cpus maxed out on jonund
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and here is where the io comes in:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> during unpackaging and repackaging of big tarballs, and when compressing
+</I>&gt;<i> the modules and generating the binary rpms (especially kernel -debug rpms
+</I>&gt;<i> are huge)... at this point cpu goes down and io is kept busy...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So here it would help if the other build would be running on another disk...
+</I>
+Yes, adding a second disk would help for the parts that use a lot of IO.
+So we can plan to add this for next time someone go to datacenter in
+Marseille.
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+faster with 2 builds on each nodes.
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+&gt;<i> yellow Tue Apr 12 08:07:07 CEST 2011 up: 90 days, 0 users, 428 procs, load=6.40
+</I>&gt;<i> &amp;yellow Load is HIGH
+</I>&gt;<i> System clock is 0 seconds off
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpm --showrc | grep mgaver
+</I>&gt;<i> -14: mgaver 1
+</I>&gt;<i> -14: mgaversion %(perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)'
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/release)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)' /etc/release
+</I>&gt;<i> 0
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this should be fixed before first release.
+</I>
+Or this should be dropped.
+
+Please prefer using distro-name-agnostic macros.
+In this case, %distro_release (from product.id macros)
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> yellow Tue Apr 12 08:07:07 CEST 2011 up: 90 days, 0 users, 428 procs, load=6.40
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &amp;yellow Load is HIGH
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> System clock is 0 seconds off
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As it is expected that there is sometime load on build nodes and rabbit,
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we should disable cpu alerts on those nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Is it possible to alter timeline when the warning triggers ?
+
+For example for a buildnode, dont warn if the cpu load is high for less
+than 6 hours (should cover libreoffice build iirc)
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+That way we still get a warning if something gets stuck...
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+&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ rpm --showrc | grep mgaver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -14: mgaver &#160; &#160; 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -14: mgaversion %(perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/release)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)' /etc/release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this should be fixed before first release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or this should be dropped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please prefer using distro-name-agnostic macros.
+</I>&gt;<i> In this case, %distro_release (from product.id macros)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>
+Personally, I don't mind. (At least it'll be just one macro instead of
+mgaver/mgaversion).
+
+--
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+</I>&gt;<i> &amp;yellow &lt;a href=&quot;/xymon-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?CLIENT=rabbit.mageia.org&amp;amp;SECTION=file:/var/lib/puppet/state/state.yaml&quot;&gt;/var/lib/puppet/state/state.yaml&lt;/a&gt;
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+Ennael asked me to envision production use for mageia-app-db v0.2, released
+last week. Boklm, who was present, asked me to write down installation
+instructions, and that's what I tried to do.
+
+So here it is :
+<A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Installation">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Installation</A>
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+I probably forgot some things, or wrote things that could freak out a wild
+sysadmin, so don't hesitate to comment and help me to find the best solution :)
+
+I'm usually available on IRC if you need to talk about it, and am subscribed
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+$ urpmq perl-App-perlbrew
+perl-App-perlbrew
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+the damn thing is still there. it's obsoleted &amp; provided by perlbrew,
+yet still present... so would it be possible for someone to finally axe
+this package?
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+i saw that <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A> is now available.
+however, a lot of perl modules are reported as non up-to-date due to our
+usage of %perl_convert_version.
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+would it be possible to apply %perl_convert_version macro to packages
+matching /^perl-/ before comparing versions? or is it too much trouble?
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+latest version...
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+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i saw that <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A> is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i> however, a lot of perl modules are reported as non up-to-date due to our
+</I>&gt;<i> usage of %perl_convert_version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> would it be possible to apply %perl_convert_version macro to packages
+</I>&gt;<i> matching /^perl-/ before comparing versions? or is it too much trouble?
+</I>
+That means the code needs to know it and have correct version :(
+
+&gt;<i> i don't want someone to blindly run an update when we are already at the
+</I>&gt;<i> latest version...
+</I>
+I can disable CPAN source
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+Date : 14 avr. 2011 06:58
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:34, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i saw that <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A> is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; however, a lot of perl modules are reported as non up-to-date due to our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; usage of %perl_convert_version.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would it be possible to apply %perl_convert_version macro to packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; matching /^perl-/ before comparing versions? or is it too much trouble?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That means the code needs to know it and have correct version :(
+</I>
+no: my $mgavers = qx{ rpm -E &quot;%perl_convert_version $vers&quot; };
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; i don't want someone to blindly run an update when we are already at the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; latest version...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can disable CPAN source
+</I>
+there will also be other updates listed from debian or fedora...
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+&gt;<i> On 11/04/14 08:38 +0100, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:34, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; i saw that <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A> is now available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; however, a lot of perl modules are reported as non up-to-date due to our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; usage of %perl_convert_version.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; would it be possible to apply %perl_convert_version macro to packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; matching /^perl-/ before comparing versions? or is it too much trouble?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That means the code needs to know it and have correct version :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no: my $mgavers = qx{ rpm -E &quot;%perl_convert_version $vers&quot; };
+</I>
+But we run on mandriva 2010.1, there is no reason it stays in sync...
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; i don't want someone to blindly run an update when we are already at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; latest version...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can disable CPAN source
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> there will also be other updates listed from debian or fedora...
+</I>
+They probably number it differently so not sure it would help (and
+actually name the package differently)
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+&gt;<i> And another one:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> commiter:
+</I>&gt;<i> kristho
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+<PRE>Le mardi 12 avril 2011 &#224; 13:07 +0200, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ rpm --showrc | grep mgaver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -14: mgaver 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -14: mgaversion %(perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /etc/release)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)' /etc/release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this should be fixed before first release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or this should be dropped.
+</I>
++1
+
+&gt;<i> Please prefer using distro-name-agnostic macros.
+</I>&gt;<i> In this case, %distro_release (from product.id macros)
+</I>
+Could we have a warning, or something like that so we can do a smooth
+migration ?
+
+
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 13 avril 2011 &#224; 12:32 +0200, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And another one:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; commiter:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kristho
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> done.
+</I>
+For this kind of request, I think bugzilla would be more adapted.
+Opening a bug in Infrastructure -&gt; Account request.
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+&gt;<i> Le mardi 12 avril 2011 &#224; 13:07 +0200, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; $ rpm --showrc | grep mgaver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; -14: mgaver &#160; &#160; 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; -14: mgaversion %(perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; /etc/release)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; $ perl -pe '/(\d+)\.(\d)\.?(\d)?/; $_=&quot;$1$2&quot;.($3||0)' /etc/release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; this should be fixed before first release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or this should be dropped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please prefer using distro-name-agnostic macros.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In this case, %distro_release (from product.id macros)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we have a warning, or something like that so we can do a smooth
+</I>&gt;<i> migration ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>
+The only way %mdkversion got really dropped was removing it altogether
+and making the build fail. So a post to -dev saying &quot;%mgaver and
+%mgaversion are gone&quot; should be good enough.
+
+Also note that those two macros aren't widely used in the specs, yet;
+given the fact Mageia 1 is still not released yet.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+while discussing with a friend about our BS, he noticed that LO take 5h
+to build. So far, so good. But we still have the same old timeout set to
+96h in iurt.conf :
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+ build_timeout =&gt; {
+ 'default' =&gt; 18000,
+ 'gcc' =&gt; 57600,
+ 'paraview' =&gt; 115200,
+ 'salome' =&gt; 57600,
+ 'itk' =&gt; 115200,
+ 'wrapitk' =&gt; 115200,
+ 'kernel-rt' =&gt; 57600,
+ 'kernel-xen' =&gt; 57600,
+ 'kernel-tmb' =&gt; 57600,
+ 'openoffice.org' =&gt; 345600,
+ 'openoffice.org64' =&gt; 345600,
+ 'openoffice.org-go-ooo' =&gt; 345600,
+ 'openoffice.org64-go-ooo' =&gt; 345600,
+ 'libreoffice' =&gt; 345600
+ },
+
+So maybe it would be worth to reduce the various limits, to acknowledge
+that we have powerful servers. As for example, python is still running
+since hours, I wouldn't mind to have it killed sooner as it is holding
+one builder at the moment ( one more reason to have 2 of them per
+server ).
+
+Also, removing packages that we no longer have would be nice ( like
+openoffice* ) or those that we currently do not ship ( itk, salome,
+etc ). This would avoid to keep cruft for years without reasons.
+
+I would not do such change now and would defer this after the stable
+release, so that let plenty of time to discuss about it :)
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+In order to see with board/council what hardware is possible to buy, we
+need to make a list of all the things we need. There is also some people
+that told us they could maybe give us servers, but we need to tell them
+what we need.
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+So I think we currently need this :
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+ need to be able to put a lot of disks inside. With redundant power
+ supply. This is were we would backup data from all other servers.
+- New disks to add in build nodes, to have better IO when running
+ multiple build on each node. I think each disk would cost around 50
+ euros.
+- ARM build nodes: misc said he can provide a pandaboard. Maybe we need
+ to add a disk if it doesn't have one. And a second ARM build node would
+ be nice, for instance an OpenRD (230 euros + shipping)
+- and if possible, one or two fast servers to provide VMs for packagers
+ to test builds
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while discussing with a friend about our BS, he noticed that LO take 5h
+</I>&gt;<i> to build. So far, so good. But we still have the same old timeout set to
+</I>&gt;<i> 96h in iurt.conf :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;build_timeout =&gt; {
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'default' =&gt; 18000,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'gcc' =&gt; 57600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'paraview' =&gt; 115200,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'salome' =&gt; 57600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'itk' =&gt; 115200,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'wrapitk' =&gt; 115200,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'kernel-rt' =&gt; 57600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'kernel-xen' =&gt; 57600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'kernel-tmb' =&gt; 57600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'openoffice.org' =&gt; 345600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'openoffice.org64' =&gt; 345600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'openoffice.org-go-ooo' =&gt; 345600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'openoffice.org64-go-ooo' =&gt; 345600,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 'libreoffice' =&gt; 345600
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;},
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So maybe it would be worth to reduce the various limits, to acknowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> that we have powerful servers. As for example, python is still running
+</I>&gt;<i> since hours, I wouldn't mind to have it killed sooner as it is holding
+</I>&gt;<i> one builder at the moment ( one more reason to have 2 of them per
+</I>&gt;<i> server ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, removing packages that we no longer have would be nice ( like
+</I>&gt;<i> openoffice* &#160;) or those that we currently do not ship ( itk, salome,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc ). This would avoid to keep cruft for years without reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would not do such change now and would defer this after the stable
+</I>&gt;<i> release, so that let plenty of time to discuss about it :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's 5hours per arch or for both archs?
+
+I see libreoffice took 7hours the time before last, so 5 wouldn't be
+too optimal. (Maybe 10?)
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to see with board/council what hardware is possible to buy, we
+</I>&gt;<i> need to make a list of all the things we need. There is also some people
+</I>&gt;<i> that told us they could maybe give us servers, but we need to tell them
+</I>&gt;<i> what we need.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think we currently need this :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - a backup server: this server does not need to be very fast, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> need to be able to put a lot of disks inside. With redundant power
+</I>&gt;<i> supply. This is were we would backup data from all other servers.
+</I>
++1.
+
+I think Nanar proposed to get a external raid array ( as we do have for
+zarb.org ) so this could help ( check with him, and the price of array
+we can place inside ).
+
+I would also check with Lost Oasis people about space we still have in
+the rack, as we are sharing everything with zarb.org for now, and this
+could place some constraint in term of size, and I fear that &quot;lots of
+disk&quot; could mean &quot;take lots of space&quot;.
+
+Also, we need a estimation of what we need :
+- databases
+- svn dump
+- ldap dump
+
+Do we backup everything at Marseille datacenter, or everything ?
+IE, blogs dbs are already taken care thanks to dams, but for the sake of
+simplicity maybe having a single procedure would be better. And this
+would be a issue for more remote db like forums, etc.
+
+&gt;<i> - New disks to add in build nodes, to have better IO when running
+</I>&gt;<i> multiple build on each node. I think each disk would cost around 50
+</I>&gt;<i> euros.
+</I>
+How many ? 1 per server, more ? Raid, non raid ?
+
+Also, do we have proper support on iurt to achieve that ( ie, each job
+with its own disk, or some low level trick to achieve that ) ?
+
+I would propose to try to not be shy and try 3 builder per server, at
+least on jonund, so maybe put more disk there ?
+
+Also do we still have slots ?
+
+&gt;<i> - ARM build nodes: misc said he can provide a pandaboard. Maybe we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to add a disk if it doesn't have one. And a second ARM build node would
+</I>&gt;<i> be nice, for instance an OpenRD (230 euros + shipping)
+</I>
+The board indeed doesn't have disk, and to be fair, I am not sure about
+connectivity for that, likely USB
+( <A HREF="http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/references">http://pandaboard.org/content/resources/references</A> ). I will try to
+get it and drop it at mageia pub^W secret headquarters :p
+
+Something that would be nice is some kind of case, but I do not have
+anything nor much idea on how to find one.
+
+Speaking of this, as rtp has pretty good relation with efika ( *khof*
+smartbook *khof* ), maybe he could arrange for stuff like that :
+<A HREF="http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/new-arrivals-genesi-efika-mx-smarttop/">http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/2011/04/07/new-arrivals-genesi-efika-mx-smarttop/</A>
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+&gt;<i> - and if possible, one or two fast servers to provide VMs for packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> to test builds
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you see something else ? Or other details/comments about what we need ?
+</I>
+For the last item, I would propose we try to get a server from ovh.
+Mandrivafr did it and they weren't too constraining about conditions.
+
+Alternatively, maybe Dedibox can provide us another one ( raphael spoke
+about it, having a 2nd rabbit would fit nicely to offer vms to test
+packages ).
+
+We could also arrange this server to have a public http server
+( people.$domain ), either in a vm or on the main server.
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> That's 5hours per arch or for both archs?
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+Per arch, this is a timeout in iurt while it build for one arch
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+while trying to fix the last python issue, I was looking at
+adding /dev/shm in the iurt chroot. But I stumbled accross some various
+stuff that would requires some inputs :
+
+- is uiurt used ? grep -r tell me it doesn't, so maybe we could simply
+erase it ( as this is a plain fork of the regular iurt )
+
+- the makefile still reference mandriva on lots of place. WHile I have
+nothing against this, but this could have unintended side effect, should
+we adapt, or clean it ?
+
+- the script iurt_cache_cleaner is also IMHO unused. Remove, clean,
+adapt ?
+
+- main script is called iurt2. There is no iurt script, what about
+renaming it and just avoid useless confusion ?
+
+- iurt.spec is now handled like the other, what about removing it ?
+
+- Iurt/Utils.pm could be replaced by a external module, like
+<A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm">http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm</A> ? According to comment,
+the issue could be when a computer is down and the lack of timeout.
+Maybe we should check if this is still the case and if not, try to reuse
+code from cpan ?
+
+- the same goes for Iurt/Mail.pm, there is already more featured modules
+on CPAN for that.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while trying to fix the last python issue, I was looking at
+</I>&gt;<i> adding /dev/shm in the iurt chroot. But I stumbled accross some various
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff that would requires some inputs :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - is uiurt used ? grep -r tell me it doesn't, so maybe we could simply
+</I>&gt;<i> erase it ( as this is a plain fork of the regular iurt )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the makefile still reference mandriva on lots of place. WHile I have
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing against this, but this could have unintended side effect, should
+</I>&gt;<i> we adapt, or clean it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the script iurt_cache_cleaner is also IMHO unused. Remove, clean,
+</I>&gt;<i> adapt ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - main script is called iurt2. There is no iurt script, what about
+</I>&gt;<i> renaming it and just avoid useless confusion ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - iurt.spec is now handled like the other, what about removing it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Iurt/Utils.pm could be replaced by a external module, like
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm">http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm</A> ?
+</I>
+Does not seem properly maintained
+<A HREF="https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Net-SCP">https://rt.cpan.org/Public/Dist/Display.html?Name=Net-SCP</A>
+
+&gt;<i> According to comment,
+</I>&gt;<i> the issue could be when a computer is down and the lack of timeout.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should check if this is still the case and if not, try to reuse
+</I>&gt;<i> code from cpan ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the same goes for Iurt/Mail.pm, there is already more featured modules
+</I>&gt;<i> on CPAN for that.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while trying to fix the last python issue, I was looking at
+</I>&gt;<i> adding /dev/shm in the iurt chroot. But I stumbled accross some various
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff that would requires some inputs :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - is uiurt used ? grep -r tell me it doesn't, so maybe we could simply
+</I>&gt;<i> erase it ( as this is a plain fork of the regular iurt )
+</I>
+It is not used
+
+&gt;<i> - the makefile still reference mandriva on lots of place. WHile I have
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing against this, but this could have unintended side effect, should
+</I>&gt;<i> we adapt, or clean it ?
+</I>
+We can adapt it, it seems pretty straight-forward
+
+&gt;<i> - the script iurt_cache_cleaner is also IMHO unused. Remove, clean,
+</I>&gt;<i> adapt ?
+</I>
+No idea
+
+&gt;<i> - main script is called iurt2. There is no iurt script, what about
+</I>&gt;<i> renaming it and just avoid useless confusion ?
+</I>
+Yep, we should rename it
+
+&gt;<i> - iurt.spec is now handled like the other, what about removing it ?
+</I>
+Ok to drop it
+
+&gt;<i> - Iurt/Utils.pm could be replaced by a external module, like
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm">http://search.cpan.org/~ivan/Net-SCP-0.08/SCP.pm</A> ? According to comment,
+</I>&gt;<i> the issue could be when a computer is down and the lack of timeout.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should check if this is still the case and if not, try to reuse
+</I>&gt;<i> code from cpan ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the same goes for Iurt/Mail.pm, there is already more featured modules
+</I>&gt;<i> on CPAN for that.
+</I>
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+<PRE>On 15 April 2011 00:35, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> while discussing with a friend about our BS, he noticed that LO take 5h
+</I>&gt;<i> to build. So far, so good. But we still have the same old timeout set to
+</I>&gt;<i> 96h in iurt.conf :
+</I>
+BTW, instead of harcoding the final result, it would be
+more sysadming friendly to use something like 96*60*60
+instead of 345600
+
+&gt;<i> So maybe it would be worth to reduce the various limits, to acknowledge
+</I>&gt;<i> that we have powerful servers. As for example, python is still running
+</I>&gt;<i> since hours, I wouldn't mind to have it killed sooner as it is holding
+</I>&gt;<i> one builder at the moment ( one more reason to have 2 of them per
+</I>&gt;<i> server ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, removing packages that we no longer have would be nice ( like
+</I>&gt;<i> openoffice* &#160;) or those that we currently do not ship ( itk, salome,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc ). This would avoid to keep cruft for years without reasons.
+</I>
+I would'n't remove timeouts for packages we do not have (yet).
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+&gt;<i> - a backup server: this server does not need to be very fast, but we
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;need to be able to put a lot of disks inside. With redundant power
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;supply. This is were we would backup data from all other servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> - New disks to add in build nodes, to have better IO when running
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;multiple build on each node. I think each disk would cost around 50
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;euros.
+</I>
+Are we using SATA discs, not SAS ones?
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+&gt;<i> Do you see something else ? Or other details/comments about what we need ?
+</I>
+- one more builder ?
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+&gt;<i> On 15 April 2011 00:35, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; while discussing with a friend about our BS, he noticed that LO take 5h
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to build. So far, so good. But we still have the same old timeout set to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 96h in iurt.conf :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, instead of harcoding the final result, it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> more sysadming friendly to use something like 96*60*60
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of 345600
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+Even better, say &quot;3d&quot; an let iurt figure out, like named.
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+There are two significant issues preventing useful use of the
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+1) schedbot are not filtered out
+2) From field (or any other field) doesn't show the committer username
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are two significant issues preventing useful use of the
+</I>&gt;<i> packages-commits@ list:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) schedbot are not filtered out
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) From field (or any other field) doesn't show the committer username
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Point 2 also prevents workarounding point 1 locally.
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+&gt;<i> i saw that <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A> is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i> however, a lot of perl modules are reported as non up-to-date due to our
+</I>&gt;<i> usage of %perl_convert_version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> would it be possible to apply %perl_convert_version macro to packages
+</I>&gt;<i> matching /^perl-/ before comparing versions? or is it too much trouble?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't want someone to blindly run an update when we are already at the
+</I>&gt;<i> latest version...
+</I>
+Please also blacklist the following packages that are de facto forked:
+- drakx-installer-*
+- perl-URPM
+- urpmi
+
+There's no sense in reporting mdv is bumping version like babby rabbits.
+It could result in errors from packagers that do not know and would
+break the distro.
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+<PRE>Le lundi 18 avril 2011 &#224; 13:47 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 14 April 2011 09:34, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i saw that <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A> is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; however, a lot of perl modules are reported as non up-to-date due to our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; usage of %perl_convert_version.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would it be possible to apply %perl_convert_version macro to packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; matching /^perl-/ before comparing versions? or is it too much trouble?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i don't want someone to blindly run an update when we are already at the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; latest version...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please also blacklist the following packages that are de facto forked:
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakx-installer-*
+</I>&gt;<i> - perl-URPM
+</I>&gt;<i> - urpmi
+</I>
+I already tried, but it seems blacklisting do not work as expected
+( tried for rpm )
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+<PRE>Le lundi 11 avril 2011 &#224; 14:39 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For authentication on the forums, we are currently using ldap. The user
+</I>&gt;<i> sends his login and passwords to phpbb which use it to authenticate on
+</I>&gt;<i> ldap server. Because of this, someone with root access on the forums
+</I>&gt;<i> server can access password of any user connecting to the forums. And
+</I>&gt;<i> because important passwords are transfered, the connection needs to be
+</I>&gt;<i> in SSL, so the *.mageia.org certificate also needs to be installed. So
+</I>&gt;<i> access to the server needs to be restricted to sysadmin team only, who
+</I>&gt;<i> also need to be able to check what is being done on forums, check it is
+</I>&gt;<i> secure, etc ... And I think this makes forums admins not happy.
+</I>
+Then what about doing like french forums, and not connect at all to our
+ldap.
+
+This let people the whole freedom to do what they want and allow us to
+focus on stuff that we need ( like deploying everything that need to be
+deployed, wiki, bittorrent server, etc, see the bugzilla for list of
+thing to do ).
+
+
+&gt;<i> As we are using ldap for authentication only (not for groups or anything
+</I>&gt;<i> else),
+</I>
+Usage of group have been proposed in the council meeting tonight. ( for
+having a specific tag on forum ). So ldap access would enable this.
+
+
+&gt;<i> I think we could do authentication differently. Maybe we could
+</I>&gt;<i> setup a mageia OpenID server linked to the ldap server. Then on the
+</I>&gt;<i> forums use OpenID for authentication, when a user enter his login on
+</I>&gt;<i> the forums he is redirected to the mageia OpenID authentication page
+</I>&gt;<i> for the login entered. Then we can disable https on the forums, and
+</I>&gt;<i> forum admins can be root on the forums server. And passwords are better
+</I>&gt;<i> protected in case phpbb has a vulnerability.
+</I>
+Or in case someone go rogue, or has his privileged account compromised.
+
+&gt;<i> Sysadmin team would manage openid server. And forum team would manage
+</I>&gt;<i> forums server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've seen this project for phpbb3 openid authentication (I didn't check
+</I>&gt;<i> if there are others) :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpbb-openid/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpbb-openid/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Login form looks like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989">http://sourceforge.net/dbimage.php?id=91989</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> We would need to modify it to remove Username/Password. Replace &quot;OpenID&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> with &quot;Mageia login&quot; and automatically use Mageia OpenID server with the
+</I>&gt;<i> login entered. So that each account on the forum is still linked to a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia account.
+</I>
+Well, I foresee some problems. People not wanting the exact rational can
+just skip to the end, there is a quick summary :
+
+- we would need to make changes to applications, in a non upstreamable
+way. It was one of the point in favor of ldap , that everything can be
+easy to share. If we start to go this way, we will end like each time we
+go this way, with a huge forked stuff. Packagers learned this the hard
+way more than once. And lack of time + big pile of customization is what
+blocked forum upgrade for years, so I really think we start to learn
+from our past mistakes.
+
+
+- openid/oauth manage the authentication ( and some vcard stuff ) but
+not the autorisation. For example, Transifex ( and others django
+application ) do use ldap groups for autorisation and I think that's
+rather a good idea to manage this using ldap.
+
+While it is not the case right now for forums, as said before, there was
+some discussions about having i18n/packagers/etc people having extended
+rights on some subforums, this would be harder to be done cleanly
+without a ldap access.
+
+
+- moreover, keeping group of people outside of our ldap would make
+various process harder.
+
+For example, if we want to elect moderators representatives, this would
+be tedious to do it on epoll if the group is stored elsewhere ( it is
+tedious now but there is some bug to fix for that ). If we want to setup
+a ml synced with ldap ( like board-private@ ), this would also cause
+data duplication. Email aliases are also based on ldap group membership,
+etc.
+
+
+- Most web applications will also need to access to email of users for
+various reasons ( like sending email ), most will also store the email
+for later usage. That's personal information that we should also protect
+and I think the various threads on the subject in the past, or the
+recent issue regarding Epsilon, or Google show that enough people care
+about that. We cannot share them with anyone without having this written
+in the privacy policy, ( policy that is still a draft cf bug 452 ) and
+told to users.
+
+
+- Moreover, if we start to give private informations to 3rd party
+websites, they should IMHO also have a privacy policy, and respect it.
+But yet, we cannot do much to make sure it is enforced or respected,
+unless if we are root. And if we are root on the server, then I see no
+reason to not handle like the others ( ie, puppet etc ). Then we are
+back on the same issues that sparkled the proposal.
+
+
+- As said on irc, there is the security issues. While we can suffer from
+it on our servers too, this would be a wrong way of evaluating the risk.
+If we take for example X external web sites, managed by X different
+group, and the Mageia web applications, there is more attack surface
+( around X+1 time more ) than just having the Mageia applications. And
+unless we can guarantee that all 3rd party admins will be skilled enough
+in the arcane of security, the risk would likely be bigger than smaller.
+
+
+- I think that telling to people &quot;it is ok to give your Mageia password
+for services that are not managed by mageia.org sysadmins&quot; is giving bad
+habits.
+
+
+- Based on my own experience with Fedora project openid provider is
+this :
+ - 1) consumer/relaying party ask for openid provider url
+ - 2) provider ask for login/password
+ - 3) provider ask to confirm if the request is ok.
+ ie, confirm access to information ( such as name, email, etc ).
+
+Step 1 is one click to load a complete page ( ie the provider form ),
+even with url hardcoded in our software. I am not sure if it doesn't
+need the username ( as it is usually embedded in the url ). Point 2 is
+hard to avoid, so 1 click + filling the form. Point 3 could be bypassed
+automatically by patching the openid provider, but I do think users should
+be in control of their personal information ( for one ) and should check
+who request the information ( for 2 ), and we should not touch to openid
+provider ( patching, etc ). So that would make between 3 clicks and 2 forms
+to 2 clicks and 1 form.
+
+
+- I think the service would be more difficult to scale and replicate than
+ldap. For ldap, any self respecting library would work without modification,
+and if not, that's a feature that would be useful to sent upstream if we
+need to patch. For a stateful http service like openid, this would requires a
+slightly more complex setup to be redundant, and that mean the service
+would be more fragile.
+
+
+So to summarize :
+- too intrusive to deploy ( patch )
+- difficult to maintain ( non upstreamable patchs )
+- do not fully respond to some requirements
+- not using ldap would cause integration problem
+- suboptimal ui ( more click required )
+- potential breach of privacy
+- increased security risk
+- difficult to scale, more fragile
+
+I recognize the solution was smart and reusing a standard protocol is quite
+clever, but the whole situation is more complex than just &quot;delegating
+authentication should solve the issue&quot;.
+
+
+On the packaging side, if someone want to upload rpms, they have follow
+the packaging standards to make sure we have good quality packages.
+Lots of people do not like that ( see MiB, see PcLinuxOs/texstar
+before ) because that requires more work and they do not see the added
+values. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist and I think that all
+packagers agree that's the sanest way to do things. People are still
+free to not comply, just outside of the distribution.
+
+For infrastructure, that's exactly the same. We do have some procedures,
+with reasons and benefits to follow them, and yes, I am fairly aware
+that some people would prefer it done another way. I have read what
+they said, understood that having to follow some procedure is tedious,
+requires more work and more time and they would prefer do it another
+way. Yet, I do not think we should sacrifice integration and
+maintainability because of that.
+
+I understand that not being root annoy some people ( I got kicked out
+of Mandriva svn administration 1 week ago ), and I also guess that the
+current way of doing thing is not fast enough. But I am convinced that deploying
+complex and fragile system to avoid our procedures is not the way to go, or
+at least, no the way I am willing to follow.
+
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+
+little thought for maven.
+
+Sshaw contributing to opensuse is writing a doc explaining how we
+failled with maven2.
+After, we plan to redo a bootstrap for maven (which will be version 3).
+
+We wanted maven to be included in mageia 1, it seems more than gold
+compromise, to really democratize mageia in the java devs , because
+the tools like NetBeans need maven to build.
+
+I have a proposal that can looks dirty but we could just unlock very soon.
+
+1 - make a chroot, install the rpms for fedora maven, plexus.
+2 - change the src.rpm so they are OK in mageia and rebuild them.
+3 - put the rpms in the repo
+4 - launch a rebuild rpms for them to be in rebuild _all_ mageia.
+
+
+Any ideas? comments?
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:11:57 Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 12.4.2011 13:15:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; yellow Tue Apr 12 08:07:07 CEST 2011 up: 90 days, 0 users, 428 procs,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; load=6.40 &amp;yellow Load is HIGH
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; System clock is 0 seconds off
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As it is expected that there is sometime load on build nodes and rabbit,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think we should disable cpu alerts on those nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to alter timeline when the warning triggers ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example for a buildnode, dont warn if the cpu load is high for less
+</I>&gt;<i> than 6 hours (should cover libreoffice build iirc)
+</I>
+Yes, add DURATION&gt;6h to the alerting rule.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> little thought for maven.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sshaw contributing to opensuse is writing a doc explaining how we
+</I>&gt;<i> failled with maven2.
+</I>&gt;<i> After, we plan to redo a bootstrap for maven (which will be version 3).
+</I>
+Sorry, I fail to understand :
+
+After &quot;what&quot;, who is &quot;we&quot; ?
+
+&gt;<i> We wanted maven to be included in mageia 1, it seems more than gold
+</I>&gt;<i> compromise, to really democratize mageia in the java devs , because
+</I>&gt;<i> the tools like NetBeans need maven to build.
+</I>
+What do you mean by &quot;gold compromise&quot; ?
+
+&gt;<i> I have a proposal that can looks dirty but we could just unlock very soon.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1 - make a chroot, install the rpms for fedora maven, plexus.
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 - change the src.rpm so they are OK in mageia and rebuild them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 3 - put the rpms in the repo
+</I>&gt;<i> 4 - launch a rebuild rpms for them to be in rebuild _all_ mageia.
+</I>
+That sound ok, provided that you mean what I understood. After all,
+that's the way we bootstrap lots of stuff.
+
+But I also think we should first focus on fixing release critical bugs
+rather than trying to push maven in the repository.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+
+Apr 20 10:51:06 rabbit libvirtd: 10:51:06.800: error :
+linuxNodeInfoCPUPopulate:230 : cannot opendir /sys/devices/system/cpu:
+No such file or directory
+
+
+Thus, virt-manager was not working, saying &quot;none object is
+unsubscriptable&quot; , virsh was ok and the message I copied was
+in /var/log/messages.
+
+Solution is to mount /sys :
+ mount -t sysfs none /sys/
+
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+ <B>Olivier Blin</B>
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+&gt;<i> It seems that something removed /sys on rabbit :
+</I>
+This was a bug in a WIP draklive, sorry about the issue, it
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+while preparing the aliases for packagers, i notified that we do not
+have aliases for us as sysadmin.
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+Should we add ourself in the list of group, how do we decide who do
+have ?
+
+( in practice, it will likely change nothing, since we are all
+packagers, but in the future, if we have new member that are not
+packagers, this could be more important )
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> while preparing the aliases for packagers, i notified that we do not
+</I>&gt;<i> have aliases for us as sysadmin.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we add ourself in the list of group, how do we decide who do
+</I>&gt;<i> have ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( in practice, it will likely change nothing, since we are all
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers, but in the future, if we have new member that are not
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers, this could be more important )
+</I>
+I think all official members of teams should have alias (if I rember
+correctly last council meeting). So this should be the same for sysadmin
+team I think.
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+so yesterday was the secteam creation meeting, and a few task have been
+distributed :
+- adding a field for CVE on bugzilla
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/mageia-dev.2011-04-19-19.10.log.html#l-379">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/mageia-dev.2011-04-19-19.10.log.html#l-379</A> , but only for the security category
+
+- adding the security category ( already done, iirc )
+
+- creating a group ( mga-security_officiers ), to handle who can access
+to various security related ressources, already done
+
+- syncing the group on bugzilla
+( <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=899</A> )
+
+- try to find a way for use to have testing vm, so people can test
+packages upgrades, etc.
+
+- add a alias for <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">security at mageia</A> to the member of the aforementioned
+group ( will do it )
+
+- check that bugzilla can handle private bug ( it should )
+
+I will enter bug for cve field, vm for test, and private bug, and do the
+security@ alias.
+--
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+<PRE>Le mardi 19 avril 2011 &#224; 14:58 +0200, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, 12 April 2011 13:11:57 Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nicolas vigier skrev 12.4.2011 13:15:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; yellow Tue Apr 12 08:07:07 CEST 2011 up: 90 days, 0 users, 428 procs,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; load=6.40 &amp;yellow Load is HIGH
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; System clock is 0 seconds off
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As it is expected that there is sometime load on build nodes and rabbit,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I think we should disable cpu alerts on those nodes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is it possible to alter timeline when the warning triggers ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For example for a buildnode, dont warn if the cpu load is high for less
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; than 6 hours (should cover libreoffice build iirc)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, add DURATION&gt;6h to the alerting rule.
+</I>
+I have added this as commit 1557, but I am not sure it will work, so I
+would appreciate someone checking :)
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As todo list on the wiki for sysadmin was not updated for a long time, I
+</I>&gt;<i> looked at list of things we have to do.
+</I>
+The sysadmin TODO list can now be seen on bugzilla :
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=859&amp;hide_resolved=1">https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=859&amp;hide_resolved=1</A>
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+block #859. Or #858 if it's something on Build System.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> while preparing the aliases for packagers, i notified that we do not
+</I>&gt;<i> have aliases for us as sysadmin.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we add ourself in the list of group, how do we decide who do
+</I>&gt;<i> have ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( in practice, it will likely change nothing, since we are all
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers, but in the future, if we have new member that are not
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers, this could be more important )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Some of us already have it,as we are either founders or board...
+
+But yes, all sysadmins should have an alias.
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+Ahmad asked if it would be possible to assign bugs to the i18n ml like
+it's done for web.
+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302</A>
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+I think it would be good, if we could also assign bugs to the language
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahmad asked if it would be possible to assign bugs to the i18n ml like
+</I>&gt;<i> it's done for web.
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it would be good, if we could also assign bugs to the language
+</I>&gt;<i> specific mls (or at least put them in cc), so we could assign bugs to
+</I>&gt;<i> the team in question.
+</I>
+i will try to do it today.
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+My name is Fernando Ristano (aka Drakor).
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+I'm one of the minor admin of Blogdrake, ocasional packager and
+developer of tools like GetRepoDrake
+(<A HREF="http://vfmbofh.homelinux.net/katnatek/GetRepoDrake/">http://vfmbofh.homelinux.net/katnatek/GetRepoDrake/</A>),
+MDVupdateOffline (offline) and a personlitation of SimplePO (offline
+to).
+
+I'm working as a PHP and Drupal developer, also doing some sysadmin things.
+
+At this moment, i'm makimg some scripts for backup the servers at
+work. Maybe i can help doing something similar on mageia servers. :D
+
+Bye.
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+PD: Sorry about my bad english.
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+</I>&gt;<i> At this moment, i'm makimg some scripts for backup the servers at
+</I>&gt;<i> work. Maybe i can help doing something similar on mageia servers. :D
+</I>
+Hello,
+
+You can find the sysadmin todo list on bugzilla :
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=859&amp;hide_resolved=1">https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=859&amp;hide_resolved=1</A>
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+
+in order to solve the issue of letting i18n people commit for
+translation, I propose the following :
+
+- a group for svn.mageia.org access ( ie, svn+ssh and git ) access
+- a group that can commit in soft/, everywhere,
+- a group that can commit po file
+
+The group 1 will be composed of member of all group that can commit
+somewhere ( ie packagers, sysadmin, i18n-commiters, etc )
+
+The group that can commit to soft/ will be packagers et i18n-commiters
+
+The 3rd group is i18n-commiters
+
+In order to solve that, I activated the dynlist overlay.
+
+To use it, just add a group like this :
+
+cn=mga-test_dyn,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org
+cn: mga-test_dyn
+objectClass: posixGroup
+objectClass: groupOfURLs
+gidNumber: 5013
+memberURL:
+<A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-council,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+memberURL:
+<A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-sysadmin,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+
+This one will create a group with sysadmin and council member.
+
+# getent group mga-test_dyn
+mga-test_dyn:*:5013:misc,rda,boklm,tmb,ennael,dams,buchan,dmorgan,nanardon,colin,blino,pterjan
+
+( ok here, it doesn't work fully, wobo and trishf42 are missing but
+since ennael and rda are not in sysadmin group, this kinda work, I will
+look at this more closely, maybe a index issue, or memberOf not being
+refreshed )
+
+Next stuff is :
+- create the missing groups
+- change the various acl bits on svn and svn.mandriva
+- create svn acl support
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 21 avril 2011 &#224; 22:04 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+
+&gt;<i> To use it, just add a group like this :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cn=mga-test_dyn,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> cn: mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> objectClass: posixGroup
+</I>&gt;<i> objectClass: groupOfURLs
+</I>&gt;<i> gidNumber: 5013
+</I>&gt;<i> memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-council,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-sysadmin,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This one will create a group with sysadmin and council member.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # getent group mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> mga-test_dyn:*:5013:misc,rda,boklm,tmb,ennael,dams,buchan,dmorgan,nanardon,colin,blino,pterjan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ok here, it doesn't work fully, wobo and trishf42 are missing but
+</I>&gt;<i> since ennael and rda are not in sysadmin group, this kinda work, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> look at this more closely, maybe a index issue, or memberOf not being
+</I>&gt;<i> refreshed )
+</I>
+Ok as usual, I first say something stupid and then find the issue.
+
+Of course, for this example, we should not add
+&quot;(objectClass=posixAccount)&quot; in the filter, as neither wobo or trishf42
+have a posixAccount :)
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I have a proposal that can looks dirty but we could just unlock very soon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1 - make a chroot, install the rpms for fedora maven, plexus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2 - change the src.rpm so they are OK in mageia and rebuild them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3 - put the rpms in the repo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4 - launch a rebuild rpms for them to be in rebuild _all_ mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That sound ok, provided that you mean what I understood. After all,
+</I>&gt;<i> that's the way we &#160;bootstrap lots of stuff.
+</I>
+Almost done :)
+
+Only netbean is missing for a rebuild, but there is a bug in netbean
+and it doesn't build with icedtea.
+With boklm we will handle the add of all this in mageia after beta2 is
+out and then we will have an up to date java stack.
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 04 avril 2011 &#224; 11:19 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 04 Apr 2011, root wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; *** Security Check, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; *** Check type: daily ***
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; *** Check executed from: /etc/cron.daily/msec ***
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I removed msec from alamut.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> /me add a button [I like it] on the mail and click on it
+</I>
+Too late but:
+/me add a button [if the logs aren't read at least once a month, nuke
+it out of the mga servers] on the mail and click it twice.
+
+Simply because I still remember n4,5 struggling with the I/O and CPU
+load of msec checking each and every chroot on the BS...
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:09:34PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 21 avril 2011 &#224; 22:04 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To use it, just add a group like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cn=mga-test_dyn,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cn: mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; objectClass: posixGroup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; objectClass: groupOfURLs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gidNumber: 5013
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-council,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-sysadmin,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This one will create a group with sysadmin and council member.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; # getent group mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mga-test_dyn:*:5013:misc,rda,boklm,tmb,ennael,dams,buchan,dmorgan,nanardon,colin,blino,pterjan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( ok here, it doesn't work fully, wobo and trishf42 are missing but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; since ennael and rda are not in sysadmin group, this kinda work, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; look at this more closely, maybe a index issue, or memberOf not being
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; refreshed )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok as usual, I first say something stupid and then find the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, for this example, we should not add
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;(objectClass=posixAccount)&quot; in the filter, as neither wobo or trishf42
+</I>&gt;<i> have a posixAccount :)
+</I>
+So I finally made the changes to ldap :
+created a group called mga-shell_access
+changed svn acl for that
+
+the only issue that I faced was that some members ( ie all i18n and me ) were
+not able to use the svn, as &quot;id $login&quot; didn't show that they were in the
+group. I do not know how I solved ( in fact, it started to work once I added
+i18n to the test_dyn group I created to test everything ).
+
+I suspect some strange ldap corruption ( since some groups were using duplicated GID )
+since now everything except my account work. id do not show that I am in the mga-shell_access
+group, but getent group show ( and I can access by ssh to svn.mageia.org ).
+
+Besides doing a dump/reload of ldap, does someone has a proposal
+( I did db_recover and slapindex, just by pure cargo culting ) ?
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:12:59PM +0200, Michael scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:09:34PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 21 avril 2011 &#224; 22:04 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; To use it, just add a group like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; cn=mga-test_dyn,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; cn: mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; objectClass: posixGroup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; objectClass: groupOfURLs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; gidNumber: 5013
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-council,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-sysadmin,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; This one will create a group with sysadmin and council member.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; # getent group mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mga-test_dyn:*:5013:misc,rda,boklm,tmb,ennael,dams,buchan,dmorgan,nanardon,colin,blino,pterjan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ( ok here, it doesn't work fully, wobo and trishf42 are missing but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; since ennael and rda are not in sysadmin group, this kinda work, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; look at this more closely, maybe a index issue, or memberOf not being
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; refreshed )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok as usual, I first say something stupid and then find the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Of course, for this example, we should not add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;(objectClass=posixAccount)&quot; in the filter, as neither wobo or trishf42
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have a posixAccount :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I finally made the changes to ldap :
+</I>&gt;<i> created a group called mga-shell_access
+</I>&gt;<i> changed svn acl for that
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the only issue that I faced was that some members ( ie all i18n and me ) were
+</I>&gt;<i> not able to use the svn, as &quot;id $login&quot; didn't show that they were in the
+</I>&gt;<i> group. I do not know how I solved ( in fact, it started to work once I added
+</I>&gt;<i> i18n to the test_dyn group I created to test everything ).
+</I>
+So it seems that's some caching issue ( or at least, I would inclined to think ).
+If we modify mga-shell_access by hand, everything work fine.
+Ie, any modification of the group is not reflected immediately, but on the next modification.
+
+Buchan, maybe you have a idea ?
+( already tried to play around indexes without much success ).
+
+According to the various researches I did around the web, dynlist + caching is a
+hard problem, so maybe there is indeed a bug.
+--
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+<PRE>On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a proposal that can looks dirty but we could just unlock very soon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1 - make a chroot, install the rpms for fedora maven, plexus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2 - change the src.rpm so they are OK in mageia and rebuild them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3 - put the rpms in the repo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 4 - launch a rebuild rpms for them to be in rebuild _all_ mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That sound ok, provided that you mean what I understood. After all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that's the way we &#160;bootstrap lots of stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Almost done :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only netbean is missing for a rebuild, but there is a bug in netbean
+</I>&gt;<i> and it doesn't build with icedtea.
+</I>&gt;<i> With boklm we will handle the add of all this in mageia after beta2 is
+</I>&gt;<i> out and then we will have an up to date java stack.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+All is done now, we now have a brand new java stack ( maven 3 / plexus
+/ netbeans / and oter gifts ), thks to the help of fedora java team.
+
+Inclusion in mageia is planned for wednesday.
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+<PRE>On 21 April 2011 11:15, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ahmad asked if it would be possible to assign bugs to the i18n ml like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's done for web.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it would be good, if we could also assign bugs to the language
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> specific mls (or at least put them in cc), so we could assign bugs to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the team in question.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i will try to do it today.
+</I>
+Mageia bugzilla doesn't have a &quot;Translation&quot; component, if it ever
+gets one, then the i18n ML could be the default &quot;QA Contact&quot;.
+
+(FWIW, misc's reasoning was that a translation bug will be in an rpm
+package, so there shouldn't be a separate translation component).
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+--
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:12:59PM +0200, Michael scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:09:34PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le jeudi 21 avril 2011 &#224; 22:04 +0200, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; To use it, just add a group like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; cn=mga-test_dyn,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; cn: mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; objectClass: posixGroup
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; objectClass: groupOfURLs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; gidNumber: 5013
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-council,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; memberURL:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount">ldap:///ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org?dn?sub?(&amp;(objectClass=posixAccount</A>)(memberOf=cn=mga-sysadmin,ou=Group,dc=mageia,dc=org))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; This one will create a group with sysadmin and council member.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; # getent group mga-test_dyn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; mga-test_dyn:*:5013:misc,rda,boklm,tmb,ennael,dams,buchan,dmorgan,nanardon,colin,blino,pterjan
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; ( ok here, it doesn't work fully, wobo and trishf42 are missing but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; since ennael and rda are not in sysadmin group, this kinda work, I will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; look at this more closely, maybe a index issue, or memberOf not being
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; refreshed )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Ok as usual, I first say something stupid and then find the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Of course, for this example, we should not add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &quot;(objectClass=posixAccount)&quot; in the filter, as neither wobo or trishf42
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; have a posixAccount :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I finally made the changes to ldap :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; created a group called mga-shell_access
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; changed svn acl for that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the only issue that I faced was that some members ( ie all i18n and me ) were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not able to use the svn, as &quot;id $login&quot; didn't show that they were in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; group. I do not know how I solved ( in fact, it started to work once I added
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i18n to the test_dyn group I created to test everything ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it seems that's some caching issue ( or at least, I would inclined to think ).
+</I>&gt;<i> If we modify mga-shell_access by hand, everything work fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ie, any modification of the group is not reflected immediately, but on the next modification.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan, maybe you have a idea ?
+</I>&gt;<i> ( already tried to play around indexes without much success ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> According to the various researches I did around the web, dynlist + caching is a
+</I>&gt;<i> hard problem, so maybe there is indeed a bug.
+</I>
+Turn out that the issue was more complex.
+Since I was using ldapvi without -M option, the ldap search used returned all member:
+attributes after being expanded by dynlist. So, upon closing the editor, it would
+send the members attributes as change to apply to the group, and the ldap would record them
+as a modification. This is why we were seeing some strange issue that I labeled as
+'cache issue'.
+
+The command id is using a query with a search filter '(member=uid=login,dc=...)' and should not
+have worked at all with dynlist, since dynamic group are expanded only when the whole
+object is returned. Yet, because of the aformentioned side effect of ldapvi, it worked
+but it was somehow &quot;late&quot; on change.
+
+After digging everywhere, the proper solution was much simpler :
+- nss_ldap support nested groups.
+
+So I created a group mga-shell_access_2, placed the group of sysadmin, packagers, etc
+in the members attribute and it worked fine. I did some basic tests to see there
+was no regression and then I switched the group ( in 2 operations ).
+And now it work fine.
+
+But this didn't seems to be widely documented ( or maybe I overlooked )
+--
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+<PRE>On 15 April 2011 14:17, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 895 Author misc Date 2011-04-15 14:17:07 +0200 (Fri, 15 Apr 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - use File::Path and List::MoreUtils, and only import if_ from MDK::Common
+</I>
+snif.
+First my typos got fixed just before they aged 10 years, and npw you're removing
+all the MDK::C bits I introduced in mkcd in order to clean it :-(
+
+How cruel is this world?
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Tue Apr 26 14:38:18 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+like last time ( and last time before ), I was the lucky guy who had to
+push stuff on the mirror.
+
+n rabbit :
+copy all iso in a single directory inside screen, using scp :
+scp */* <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">root at valstar.mageia.org</A>:/distrib/new_isos/
+
+on valstar :
+- check md5 and sha1
+
+ cd /distrib
+ mv mirror/iso/cauldron/ old_isos/1/beta1/
+ mv new_isos/ mirror/iso/cauldron/
+
+
+We still didn't finished the bittorrent setup, nor contacted mirror
+people to tell them to subscribe to mirrors-announce :/
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
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+ <B>philippe makowski</B>
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+<PRE> I think that zezinho (Jos&#233; JORGE ) can start working on packages
+(at first cultivation, he have two patches to commit) can you give him
+rights please ?
+
+his pub key :
+<A HREF="http://jjorge.free.fr/iditente/id_rsa.pub">http://jjorge.free.fr/iditente/id_rsa.pub</A>
+
+his login : zezinho
+
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+<PRE>On Tue, 19 Apr 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 11 avril 2011 &#224; 14:39 +0200, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For authentication on the forums, we are currently using ldap. The user
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sends his login and passwords to phpbb which use it to authenticate on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ldap server. Because of this, someone with root access on the forums
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; server can access password of any user connecting to the forums. And
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because important passwords are transfered, the connection needs to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in SSL, so the *.mageia.org certificate also needs to be installed. So
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; access to the server needs to be restricted to sysadmin team only, who
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also need to be able to check what is being done on forums, check it is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; secure, etc ... And I think this makes forums admins not happy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then what about doing like french forums, and not connect at all to our
+</I>&gt;<i> ldap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This let people the whole freedom to do what they want and allow us to
+</I>&gt;<i> focus on stuff that we need ( like deploying everything that need to be
+</I>&gt;<i> deployed, wiki, bittorrent server, etc, see the bugzilla for list of
+</I>&gt;<i> thing to do ).
+</I>
+Yes, that's what I was thinking first. One day that I decided to be
+lazy and started to think how to get ride of forums. Maybe that is not
+a good idea. But it was planned to migrate forums to an other server
+installed and managed by other people, and we have the same problem in
+that case, that other people not in sysadmin team are root on this server.
+But even if we don't do that and continue to be the only root on the
+server, someone hacking the phpbb server could easily add a password
+logger in source code and steal passwords allowing access to svn or some
+other servers.
+
+So to avoid a security hole in one web app to give access to everything,
+I think it would be useful to separate authentication part. Actually I
+don't know enough about openid, oauth and other protocols to say which
+one is better. But we can see this with help of webteam.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - we would need to make changes to applications, in a non upstreamable
+</I>&gt;<i> way. It was one of the point in favor of ldap , that everything can be
+</I>&gt;<i> easy to share. If we start to go this way, we will end like each time we
+</I>&gt;<i> go this way, with a huge forked stuff. Packagers learned this the hard
+</I>&gt;<i> way more than once. And lack of time + big pile of customization is what
+</I>&gt;<i> blocked forum upgrade for years, so I really think we start to learn
+</I>&gt;<i> from our past mistakes.
+</I>
+I think a phpbb oauth plugin could be upstreamable. There is already an
+openid plugin, where we could add an option to force openid server, and
+maybe upstream this option.
+
+&gt;<i> - openid/oauth manage the authentication ( and some vcard stuff ) but
+</I>&gt;<i> not the autorisation. For example, Transifex ( and others django
+</I>&gt;<i> application ) do use ldap groups for autorisation and I think that's
+</I>&gt;<i> rather a good idea to manage this using ldap.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While it is not the case right now for forums, as said before, there was
+</I>&gt;<i> some discussions about having i18n/packagers/etc people having extended
+</I>&gt;<i> rights on some subforums, this would be harder to be done cleanly
+</I>&gt;<i> without a ldap access.
+</I>
+I though it was too difficult to do it in phpbb, so we decided to not
+use ldap groups in phpbb. But using external authentication does not
+prevent us to use ldap groups. It should be possible to give limited
+ldap access to phpbb to read group infos and use something else for
+authentication.
+
+&gt;<i> - moreover, keeping group of people outside of our ldap would make
+</I>&gt;<i> various process harder.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For example, if we want to elect moderators representatives, this would
+</I>&gt;<i> be tedious to do it on epoll if the group is stored elsewhere ( it is
+</I>&gt;<i> tedious now but there is some bug to fix for that ). If we want to setup
+</I>&gt;<i> a ml synced with ldap ( like board-private@ ), this would also cause
+</I>&gt;<i> data duplication. Email aliases are also based on ldap group membership,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc.
+</I>
+I agree that we shouldn't store groups elsewhere.
+
+&gt;<i> - Most web applications will also need to access to email of users for
+</I>&gt;<i> various reasons ( like sending email ), most will also store the email
+</I>&gt;<i> for later usage. That's personal information that we should also protect
+</I>&gt;<i> and I think the various threads on the subject in the past, or the
+</I>&gt;<i> recent issue regarding Epsilon, or Google show that enough people care
+</I>&gt;<i> about that. We cannot share them with anyone without having this written
+</I>&gt;<i> in the privacy policy, ( policy that is still a draft cf bug 452 ) and
+</I>&gt;<i> told to users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Moreover, if we start to give private informations to 3rd party
+</I>&gt;<i> websites, they should IMHO also have a privacy policy, and respect it.
+</I>&gt;<i> But yet, we cannot do much to make sure it is enforced or respected,
+</I>&gt;<i> unless if we are root. And if we are root on the server, then I see no
+</I>&gt;<i> reason to not handle like the others ( ie, puppet etc ). Then we are
+</I>&gt;<i> back on the same issues that sparkled the proposal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - As said on irc, there is the security issues. While we can suffer from
+</I>&gt;<i> it on our servers too, this would be a wrong way of evaluating the risk.
+</I>&gt;<i> If we take for example X external web sites, managed by X different
+</I>&gt;<i> group, and the Mageia web applications, there is more attack surface
+</I>&gt;<i> ( around X+1 time more ) than just having the Mageia applications. And
+</I>&gt;<i> unless we can guarantee that all 3rd party admins will be skilled enough
+</I>&gt;<i> in the arcane of security, the risk would likely be bigger than smaller.
+</I>
+I think using an authentication server is better for security :
+ - without authentication server, all web sites receive the ldap
+ password, and have read/write access to the ldap from the user
+ account. Someone taking control of one website can access all
+ passwords of users connecting.
+ - with authentication server, the web sites (except authentication
+ web site) do not receive the password, so they cannot steal it, cannot
+ authenticate on other websites. It's bad if one of the website is
+ attacked, but it doesn't give access to the svn or other websites.
+
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+<PRE>Le lundi 25 avril 2011 &#224; 17:10 +0200, Dexter Morgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have a proposal that can looks dirty but we could just unlock very soon.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 1 - make a chroot, install the rpms for fedora maven, plexus.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2 - change the src.rpm so they are OK in mageia and rebuild them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 3 - put the rpms in the repo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 4 - launch a rebuild rpms for them to be in rebuild _all_ mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That sound ok, provided that you mean what I understood. After all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that's the way we bootstrap lots of stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Almost done :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Only netbean is missing for a rebuild, but there is a bug in netbean
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and it doesn't build with icedtea.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With boklm we will handle the add of all this in mageia after beta2 is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; out and then we will have an up to date java stack.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All is done now, we now have a brand new java stack ( maven 3 / plexus
+</I>&gt;<i> / netbeans / and oter gifts ), thks to the help of fedora java team.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Inclusion in mageia is planned for wednesday.
+</I>
+I think you should have sent this to -dev too, given it broke some
+packages like scilab, etc.
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+
+a small update because I was not convinced - and waiting for beta2 was
+a good time. :-p
+
+On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 01:10, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> - openid/oauth manage the authentication ( and some vcard stuff ) but
+</I>&gt;<i> not the autorisation. For example, Transifex ( and others django
+</I>&gt;<i> application ) do use ldap groups for autorisation and I think that's
+</I>&gt;<i> rather a good idea to manage this using ldap.
+</I>
+OAuth is about authorizing a 3rd party application to get access to a
+set of credentials (on user acceptance) - that could include groups.
+And many other things. So that's still up to your local app to use
+that for authorization.
+
+&gt;<i> - I think that telling to people &quot;it is ok to give your Mageia password
+</I>&gt;<i> for services that are not managed by mageia.org sysadmins&quot;
+</I>
+OpenID/OAuth are precisely designed to avoid this.
+
+&gt;<i> I recognize the solution was smart and reusing a standard protocol is quite
+</I>&gt;<i> clever, but the whole situation is more complex than just &quot;delegating
+</I>&gt;<i> authentication should solve the issue&quot;.
+</I>
+It's not about delegating authentication, that stays on mageia.org servers.
+
+I understand your point too. Anyway. Let's see it again from a
+different perspective now. No offense intended to anyone, but just
+stating it plain.
+
+Choosing this current scheme (LDAP + Perl-based Web frontend + strict
+policy on authentication/authorization scheme) makes it:
+ - something completely centralised where, when someone could
+add/extend an application to the Mageia ecosystem, it has to ask for
+permission first (LDAP app-specific credentials, app hosting control),
+instead of just using a piece of infrastructure that would enable
+users to use it (OAuth + open APIs) and giving their permission - and
+keeping control of it; I am not saying that Web developers are craving
+to do that at once, but preventing this sort of thing from happening
+doesn't help;
+ - discussions about improvements cut down for the sake of not
+patching pieces of code, making the whole thing so generic, that it
+will stay generic (genericity is good, but not at the price of not
+progressing/making new stuff).
+
+We can either decide to stay like this - but I'm not sure to see the
+point because it doesn't scale - beyond that it's not really
+interesting either. Yes, the sysadmin team is not extensible and would
+welcome hands to help - showing too conservative a status will not
+help either.
+
+Or decide that we need to open and let go a bit more and design all
+our services in a more modular/flexible way, yet secure. And if
+needed, ask for help on the outside, among people that would be
+willing to help (not only volunteers, but companies whose interest
+could align with dedicating some employees time with the project). For
+instance, continuing as it is today, but accepting to set up an OAuth
+provider service in a given perimeter, plugging it in LDAP with the
+auth part still in mageia.org, and see how things go from there?
+
+Note that I'm not arguing against the team or anyone here, but for a
+different take on how some services may be provided in a more flexible
+way. :-) I'm sure a set of beers and a whiteboard would help a lot
+here but all we have for now is this text-based thing.
+
+(that's not a binary switch - I discussed with some of af83 engineers
+about one of their project they demonstrated at WebWorkersCamp past
+week-end (<A HREF="https://github.com/AF83/auth_server">https://github.com/AF83/auth_server</A> ) - and it seems they
+would be happy to help with this - that's in part why I suggest a bit
+more about this)
+
+So the question, to sum it up is this: would the sysadmin team be ok with:
+ - experimenting such an authorization gateway (as oauth2 here) that
+would allow other apps to use Mageia user accounts for
+authentication/authorization;
+ - possibly setup and implemented/provided by non sysadmins
+
+It's not about setting a fight between systems integrity/admin and
+foolish experiments/developments - it's about allowing ideas to bubble
+through the project without too many obstacles in the middle.
+
+No hurry either, better make sure everyone is on par on this.
+
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 25 avril 2011 &#224; 17:10 +0200, Dexter Morgan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Dexter Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have a proposal that can looks dirty but we could just unlock very soon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 1 - make a chroot, install the rpms for fedora maven, plexus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2 - change the src.rpm so they are OK in mageia and rebuild them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 3 - put the rpms in the repo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 4 - launch a rebuild rpms for them to be in rebuild _all_ mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That sound ok, provided that you mean what I understood. After all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that's the way we &#160;bootstrap lots of stuff.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Almost done :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Only netbean is missing for a rebuild, but there is a bug in netbean
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; and it doesn't build with icedtea.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; With boklm we will handle the add of all this in mageia after beta2 is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; out and then we will have an up to date java stack.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All is done now, we now have a brand new java stack ( maven 3 / plexus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> / netbeans / and oter gifts ), thks to the help of fedora java &#160;team.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Inclusion in mageia is planned for wednesday.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you should have sent this to -dev too, given it broke some
+</I>&gt;<i> packages like scilab, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>
+IIRC scilab was broken before this boostrap was announced at all.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+ <B>Pietr Petronov</B>
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+<PRE>[M&#234;me message en fran&#231;ais en dessous]
+
+Hi,
+
+I suscribed quite a long time ago to Mageia, but I provided my email address
+uncorrectly. I've probably written yahoo.fr instead of yahoo.com
+
+I've never received the confirmation mail, so that I never could valid my
+account. Yet it wasn't pruned and my Nickname isn't available anymore.
+
+Would you be kind enough to erase my account when you have a little time. I'd
+like to get back my account with the same nickname : Petronov.
+
+Thank you.
+
+And thank you for the great work you do on Mageia.
+
+ P. Petronov
+
+PS : You may also want to check first that the count is really unused if ever
+another Petronov came while I was waiting my account to be deleted.
+
+______________________________________
+
+Bonjour,
+
+Je me suis inscrit tr&#232;s t&#244;t sur les sites Mageia, mais je me suis tromp&#233;
+d'adresse mail (yahoo.fr au lieu de yahoo.com, je crois).
+
+Je n'ai jamais re&#231;u le mail de confirmation, mais mon compte n'a pas &#233;t&#233; effac&#233;
+pour autant. Pourriez-vous, &#224; l'occasion, le supprimer afin que je me recr&#233;e un
+login sans changer de pseudo (Petronov). Merci.
+
+Quoi qu'il en soit, merci pour votre travail sur Mageia.
+
+P. Petronov
+
+PS : peut-&#234;tre serait-il bon de vous assurer quand m&#234;me que le compte est bien
+inutilis&#233; au cas o&#249; un autre Petronov se soit par aventure inscrit pendant que
+j'attendais la destruction de mon compte.
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 27 avril 2011 &#224; 22:12 +0100, Pietr Petronov a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> [M&#234;me message en fran&#231;ais en dessous]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+&gt;<i> I suscribed quite a long time ago to Mageia, but I provided my email address
+</I>&gt;<i> uncorrectly. I've probably written yahoo.fr instead of yahoo.com
+</I>
+Yup, you used .fr and not .com.
+
+&gt;<i> I've never received the confirmation mail, so that I never could valid my
+</I>&gt;<i> account. Yet it wasn't pruned and my Nickname isn't available anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would you be kind enough to erase my account when you have a little time. I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> like to get back my account with the same nickname : Petronov.
+</I>
+Well, the question is &quot;how can we be sure that the erasure demand is
+legit&quot;. Ie, if the account is in used, we cannot check it ( unless we go
+on every applications to seek ).
+
+I guess since the password was never changed, that the account was
+indeed unused. I can either erase it, or change the email.
+
+For the record, here is the ldap query I used on valstar :
+ldapsearch -L -h localhost -b &quot;dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -D
+&quot;uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -Z -W
+'(&amp;(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)(!(pwdChangedTime=*)))' cn uid mail
+
+We do have 27 non activated account, I guess we could decide to prune
+them sooner or later ?
+
+&gt;<i> Thank you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And thank you for the great work you do on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P. Petronov
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS : You may also want to check first that the count is really unused if ever
+</I>&gt;<i> another Petronov came while I was waiting my account to be deleted.
+</I>
+Accounts are not deleted ( yet ).
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+<PRE>On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:42, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 27 avril 2011 &#224; 22:12 +0100, Pietr Petronov a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [M&#234;me message en fran&#231;ais en dessous]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suscribed quite a long time ago to Mageia, but I provided my email address
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uncorrectly. I've probably written yahoo.fr instead of yahoo.com
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup, you used .fr and not .com.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've never received the confirmation mail, so that I never could valid my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> account. Yet it wasn't pruned and my Nickname isn't available anymore.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would you be kind enough to erase my account when you have a little time. I'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> like to get back my account with the same nickname : Petronov.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, the question is &quot;how can we be sure that the erasure demand is
+</I>&gt;<i> legit&quot;. Ie, if the account is in used, we cannot check it ( unless we go
+</I>&gt;<i> on every applications to seek ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess since the password was never changed, that the account was
+</I>&gt;<i> indeed unused. I can either erase it, or change the email.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the record, here is the ldap query I used on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> ldapsearch -L -h localhost -b &quot;dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -D
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -Z &#160;-W
+</I>&gt;<i> '(&amp;(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)(!(pwdChangedTime=*)))' cn uid &#160;mail
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We do have 27 non activated account, I guess we could decide to prune
+</I>&gt;<i> them sooner or later ?
+</I>
+I think an account not activated within a (few) day(s) should indeed
+be deleted (and this should be announced at creation time)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Thank you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And thank you for the great work you do on Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;P. Petronov
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PS : You may also want to check first that the count is really unused if ever
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> another Petronov came while I was waiting my account to be deleted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Accounts are not deleted ( yet ).
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+<PRE>On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:42, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Would you be kind enough to erase my account when you have a little time. I'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> like to get back my account with the same nickname : Petronov.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, the question is &quot;how can we be sure that the erasure demand is
+</I>&gt;<i> legit&quot;. Ie, if the account is in used, we cannot check it ( unless we go
+</I>&gt;<i> on every applications to seek ).
+</I>
+Well, we need once more a policy about this.
+
+Could be:
+ - notifying each application of account removal, so that each app
+decide, after its own policy, either to drop the account and
+associated data, either to anonymize it (for better or worse) - that
+was the direction we aimed to at mdv;
+ - not doing anything, provided there's a warning at account creation
+about this - but that's unlikely to be a legal option in France where
+servers are hosted.
+
+Either way, an account removal/deletion process should include a
+double verification against the email account (sending a removal
+confirmation email with a time-limited action link that in turn,
+authenticates and asks again the user about removing the account).
+
+&gt;<i> I guess since the password was never changed, that the account was
+</I>&gt;<i> indeed unused. I can either erase it, or change the email.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the record, here is the ldap query I used on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> ldapsearch -L -h localhost -b &quot;dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -D
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -Z &#160;-W
+</I>&gt;<i> '(&amp;(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)(!(pwdChangedTime=*)))' cn uid &#160;mail
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We do have 27 non activated account, I guess we could decide to prune
+</I>&gt;<i> them sooner or later ?
+</I>
+Is there a way for a non-activated account to fetch back an activation
+link somehow? (in case of forgotten/deleted link)
+
+Without activation, 15 days could be enough, provided we can be sure
+the account has really not been used.
+
+Romain
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 &#224; 10:08 +0200, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:42, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Would you be kind enough to erase my account when you have a little time. I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; like to get back my account with the same nickname : Petronov.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, the question is &quot;how can we be sure that the erasure demand is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; legit&quot;. Ie, if the account is in used, we cannot check it ( unless we go
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on every applications to seek ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, we need once more a policy about this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be:
+</I>&gt;<i> - notifying each application of account removal, so that each app
+</I>&gt;<i> decide, after its own policy, either to drop the account and
+</I>&gt;<i> associated data, either to anonymize it (for better or worse) - that
+</I>&gt;<i> was the direction we aimed to at mdv;
+</I>&gt;<i> - not doing anything, provided there's a warning at account creation
+</I>&gt;<i> about this - but that's unlikely to be a legal option in France where
+</I>&gt;<i> servers are hosted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Either way, an account removal/deletion process should include a
+</I>&gt;<i> double verification against the email account (sending a removal
+</I>&gt;<i> confirmation email with a time-limited action link that in turn,
+</I>&gt;<i> authenticates and asks again the user about removing the account).
+</I>
+For the sake of simplicity, I would simply say that account removal
+should be exceptional if used. My point was more &quot;how can do I know that
+the mail is sent by the real account owner&quot;.
+
+IE, since a mail can be faked without trouble, we need more than &quot;can
+you reset my password&quot; to do it :)
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I guess since the password was never changed, that the account was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; indeed unused. I can either erase it, or change the email.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For the record, here is the ldap query I used on valstar :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ldapsearch -L -h localhost -b &quot;dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -D
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;uid=misc,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot; -Z -W
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; '(&amp;(objectClass=inetOrgPerson)(!(pwdChangedTime=*)))' cn uid mail
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We do have 27 non activated account, I guess we could decide to prune
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; them sooner or later ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a way for a non-activated account to fetch back an activation
+</I>&gt;<i> link somehow? (in case of forgotten/deleted link)
+</I>
+Nope.
+
+&gt;<i> Without activation, 15 days could be enough, provided we can be sure
+</I>&gt;<i> the account has really not been used.
+</I>
+If the password was not changed ( as seen by the ldap request), then it
+is likely that no one used it.
+
+Now, someone could have not clicked on the link, and used the password
+in the url to log on bugzilla/etc, but this is seems highly improbable.
+I am not sure that this could even be done, maybe the account is
+inactive until someone change the password, I need to look.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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+<PRE>Guys, can you deal with this ?
+
+
+---------- Forwarded message ----------
+From: Jos&#233; Melo &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">mmodem00 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Date: 2011/4/29
+Subject: packaging account for who comes from mandriva
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>
+
+
+I have read in mageia website that its you and misc that are handling
+it: team council representative: Michael Scherer (aka misc) and Anne
+Nicolas (aka ennael)
+
+I have entered irc in freenode at #mageia-dev and asked misc about it
+but i didnt got any response, so i decided to ask you about the
+procedure to get a mageia packaging account, since i come from
+mandriva packaging.
+
+I have followed all the steps described at
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging,">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packaging,</A> so im registed in
+mageia-dev ML, im also registed in translation ML and waiting that
+Portuguese transaltion project can be created.
+
+kind regards,
+Z&#233;
+
+
+
+--
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+ <B>nicolas vigier</B>
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+ <I>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, philippe makowski wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> I think that zezinho (Jos&#233; JORGE ) can start working on packages
+</I>&gt;<i> (at first cultivation, he have two patches to commit) can you give him
+</I>&gt;<i> rights please ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> his pub key :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://jjorge.free.fr/iditente/id_rsa.pub">http://jjorge.free.fr/iditente/id_rsa.pub</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> his login : zezinho
+</I>
+Ok, account is enabled. Access to the svn should be working now.
+
+For this kind of request it's better to create a bug in
+Infrastructure/Account request (to avoid it to be forgotten).
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 00:20:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 177<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003260.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003266.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003275.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003277.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003291.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003263.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003280.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003297.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003256.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rapha&#235;l Jadot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003298.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003265.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pietr Petronov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003296.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>IBQ. Miguel &#193;ngel Ram&#237;rez Polo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003268.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003270.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003281.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-perlbrew please
+</A><A NAME="3347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003289.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Apache configuration on champagne]
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Council list
+</A><A NAME="3254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003259.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003261.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003267.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003271.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003273.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003274.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003276.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003279.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] secteam stuff
+</A><A NAME="3380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 2 on mirror
+</A><A NAME="3398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003264.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003282.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Production use of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003269.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003272.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003288.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RFC] another rpmlint error to reject
+</A><A NAME="3288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [895] - use File::Path and List::MoreUtils, and only import if_ from MDK:: Common
+</A><A NAME="3397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [818] Add drakguard
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003283.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003286.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-contact] Unable to register for forum
+</A><A NAME="3350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: packaging account for who comes from mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003293.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003295.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Out of town for a few days
+</A><A NAME="3295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003278.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003284.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003285.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003287.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003290.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003292.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003294.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [677142] rabbit.mageia.org:files warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:41 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 00:20:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 177<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [818] Add drakguard
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Apache configuration on champagne]
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Council list
+</A><A NAME="3254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003256.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003259.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003260.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003261.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003263.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003264.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003265.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003266.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003267.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003268.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003269.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003270.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003271.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003272.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003273.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003274.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003275.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003276.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003277.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003278.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003279.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003280.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003281.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003282.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003283.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003284.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003285.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003286.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003287.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003288.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RFC] another rpmlint error to reject
+</A><A NAME="3288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003289.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003290.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003291.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003292.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003293.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003294.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003295.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Out of town for a few days
+</A><A NAME="3295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003296.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>IBQ. Miguel &#193;ngel Ram&#237;rez Polo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003297.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003298.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rapha&#235;l Jadot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [677142] rabbit.mageia.org:files warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Production use of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-perlbrew please
+</A><A NAME="3347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-contact] Unable to register for forum
+</A><A NAME="3350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [895] - use File::Path and List::MoreUtils, and only import if_ from MDK:: Common
+</A><A NAME="3397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] secteam stuff
+</A><A NAME="3380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 2 on mirror
+</A><A NAME="3398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pietr Petronov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: packaging account for who comes from mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:41 CEST 2011</i>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 00:20:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 177<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [818] Add drakguard
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [895] - use File::Path and List::MoreUtils, and only import if_ from MDK:: Common
+</A><A NAME="3397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003272.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003273.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003278.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Apache configuration on champagne]
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003288.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RFC] another rpmlint error to reject
+</A><A NAME="3288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003283.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003284.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003285.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003286.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003290.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003274.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003275.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003276.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003277.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003279.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 2 on mirror
+</A><A NAME="3398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Council list
+</A><A NAME="3254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003291.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003292.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003294.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-contact] Unable to register for forum
+</A><A NAME="3350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: packaging account for who comes from mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003259.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003260.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003261.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003264.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003266.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [677142] rabbit.mageia.org:files warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003256.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pietr Petronov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003287.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003293.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003295.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Out of town for a few days
+</A><A NAME="3295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003289.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003263.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003267.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003280.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Production use of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003268.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003269.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003270.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003281.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003282.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-perlbrew please
+</A><A NAME="3347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] secteam stuff
+</A><A NAME="3380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003296.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>IBQ. Miguel &#193;ngel Ram&#237;rez Polo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003297.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003298.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003265.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003271.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rapha&#235;l Jadot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:41 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
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+ <h1>April 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Apr 1 00:20:30 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 177<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01301610030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003234.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301610030-01301911518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003238.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301610030-01301911518-01301932228- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003242.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ML request for QAteam
+</A><A NAME="3242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301693915- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003235.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301693915-01301831945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003236.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01301693915-01301932573- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003243.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003263.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003267.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190-01302078558- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003280.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190-01302078558-01302273768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003318.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190-01302078558-01302273768-01302456491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003326.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190-01302078558-01302273768-01302456491-01302690721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003344.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190-01302078558-01302273768-01302456491-01302690721-01302781265- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301693915-01301932573-01301984034-01302001190-01302078558-01302273768-01302456491-01302690721-01302781265-01302781769- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Please add further members to i18n ldap groups
+</A><A NAME="3355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301897890- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003245.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [818] Add drakguard
+</A><A NAME="3245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01301908797- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003237.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301908797-01301932614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003244.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301908797-01301932614-01303579010- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003391.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [msec] *** Security Check on alamut.mageia.org, Apr 04 04:02:02 ***
+</A><A NAME="3391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301929931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003239.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301929931-01301930682- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003240.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301929931-01301930682-01301931184- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003241.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01301929931-01301930682-01301934435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003246.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301929931-01301930682-01301934435-01301935109- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003247.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01301929931-01301930682-01301935380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003248.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Mageia-dev] [RPM] cauldron core/release geoclue-0.12.0-6.mga1
+</A><A NAME="3248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301936735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003249.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Fwd: [Mageia-dev] Apache configuration on champagne]
+</A><A NAME="3249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01301939065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003250.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301939065-01301939985- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003251.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01301939065-01301944102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003252.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301939065-01301944102-01302184055- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003290.html">[Mageia-sysadm] ARM port and BuildSystem
+</A><A NAME="3290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301947503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003253.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301947503-01301949395- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003255.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301947503-01301949395-01301953300- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003256.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Identity management
+</A><A NAME="3256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Patricia Fraser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301949056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003254.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Council list
+</A><A NAME="3254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01301953892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003257.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301953892-01301954102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003258.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01301953892-01301954332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003259.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301953892-01301954332-01301954765- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003260.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01301953892-01301954332-01301954765-01301960298- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003261.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301953892-01301954332-01301954765-01301960298-01301994979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003264.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301953892-01301954332-01301954765-01301960298-01301994979-01302001098- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003266.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01301953892-01301954332-01301954765-01302266533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003310.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Gmane subscriptions...
+</A><A NAME="3310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01301971232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003262.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01301971232-01301997339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003265.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01301971232-01301997339-01302009726- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003271.html">[Mageia-sysadm] update of qemu on rabbit
+</A><A NAME="3271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302002016- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003268.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302002016-01302004922- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003269.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302002016-01302004922-01302008899- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003270.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302002016-01302004922-01302008899-01302078603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003281.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302002016-01302004922-01302008899-01302078603-01302080808- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003282.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-cpanminus
+</A><A NAME="3282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302014749- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003272.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302014749-01302016618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003273.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302014749-01302016618-01302025475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003278.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [Cooker] SVN RSS
+</A><A NAME="3278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302022158- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003274.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302022158-01302023499- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003275.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302022158-01302023499-01302023978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003276.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302022158-01302023499-01302023978-01302024396- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003277.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302022158-01302023499-01302023978-01302024396-01302027102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003279.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 1 on the mirror
+</A><A NAME="3279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302084418- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003283.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302084418-01302084894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003284.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302084418-01302084894-01302085699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003285.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302084418-01302084894-01302085699-01302085868- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003286.html">[Mageia-sysadm] About mirrors contacts and management
+</A><A NAME="3286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302104761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003287.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302104761-01302201697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003293.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgarepo import connections problem
+</A><A NAME="3293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302105615- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003288.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [RFC] another rpmlint error to reject
+</A><A NAME="3288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302106007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003289.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302106007-01302216245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003299.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302106007-01302216245-01302242538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003304.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302106007-01302216245-01302242538-01302269326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003312.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: cryptsetup-luks
+</A><A NAME="3312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302192511- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003291.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302192511-01302200774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003292.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302192511-01302203067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003294.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Deploying updated packages on buildsystem
+</A><A NAME="3294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302204344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003295.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Out of town for a few days
+</A><A NAME="3295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302204524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003296.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>IBQ. Miguel &#193;ngel Ram&#237;rez Polo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302204524-01302204784- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003297.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302204524-01302210009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003298.html">[Mageia-sysadm] uid - blog missunderstanding.
+</A><A NAME="3298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302220955- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003300.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302220955-01302226217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003301.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302220955-01302226217-01302253409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003307.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302220955-01302226217-01302253409-01302257196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003308.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302220955-01302226217-01302253409-01302257196-01302260097- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003309.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302220955-01302226486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003302.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302220955-01302242986- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003306.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302220955-01303334498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003382.html">[Mageia-sysadm] list of things to do in sysadmin
+</A><A NAME="3382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302233074- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003303.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302233074-01302242547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003305.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302233074-01302242547-01302269356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003313.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Package removal request: gvfs-1.7*
+</A><A NAME="3313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302266774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003311.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302266774-01302269721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003314.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302266774-01302269721-01302270074- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003315.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
+</A><A NAME="3315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302273187- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003316.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302273187-01302273736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003317.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302273187-01302275562- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003319.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302273187-01302275562-01302279623- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003321.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [1495] set timezone it php.ini
+</A><A NAME="3321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302278076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003320.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302278076-01302456529- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003327.html">[Mageia-sysadm] NFrance and Mageia forums hosting
+</A><A NAME="3327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302360943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003322.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302360943-01302361241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003323.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302360943-01302361241-01302363144- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003324.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302360943-01302437179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003325.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302360943-01302437179-01302529032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003329.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302360943-01302437179-01302529032-01302537474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003333.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302360943-01302437179-01302529032-01302537474-01302538648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003334.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302360943-01302437179-01302529032-01302537474-01302538648-01302602246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003339.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01302360943-01302437179-01302529032-01302537474-01302546950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003335.html">[Mageia-sysadm] multiple builds on each nodes
+</A><A NAME="3335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302525560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003328.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302525560-01302534248- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003330.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rapha&#235;l Jadot
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302525560-01302534248-01302535690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003331.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302525560-01302536194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003332.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302525560-01303168244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003372.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302525560-01303168244-01303842281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003400.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01302525560-01303168244-01303847997- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003402.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Users authentication on forums
+</A><A NAME="3402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302548540- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003336.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302548540-01302549537- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003337.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages uploaded only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="3337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302592791- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003338.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302592791-01302606441- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003341.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302592791-01302606441-01302622490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003343.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01302592791-01302606441-01302781310- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302592791-01302606441-01302781310-01302808325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-sysadm] mgaversion and mgaver macros
+</A><A NAME="3356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302603314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003340.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302603314-01302606717- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003342.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302603314-01302606717-01303217920- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003374.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302603314-01302606717-01303217920-01303334413- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003381.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [528732] jonund.mageia.org:cpu warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302718117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003345.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Hobbit [677142] rabbit.mageia.org:files warning (YELLOW)
+</A><A NAME="3345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302729185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003346.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Production use of mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302766137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003347.html">[Mageia-sysadm] remove perl-App-perlbrew please
+</A><A NAME="3347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302766449- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003348.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302766449-01302766684- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302766449-01302766684-01302767602- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01302766449-01302766684-01302767602-01302773077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302766449-01303127268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003370.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302766449-01303127268-01303137081- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003371.html">[Mageia-sysadm] youri check: perl updates
+</A><A NAME="3371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302767261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: [Mageia-contact] Unable to register for forum
+</A><A NAME="3350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01302820515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302820515-01302832205- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302820515-01302832205-01302861851- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003361.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01302820515-01302869589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003365.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01302820515-01302869589-01302871453- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003367.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt timeout
+</A><A NAME="3367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302822699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302822699-01302854055- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003360.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302822699-01302869734- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003366.html">[Mageia-sysadm] New hardware for mageia servers
+</A><A NAME="3366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302862632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003362.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01302862632-01302863005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003363.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01302862632-01302866163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003364.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Cleaning iurt svn
+</A><A NAME="3364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01302869956- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003397.html">[Mageia-sysadm] [895] - use File::Path and List::MoreUtils, and only import if_ from MDK:: Common
+</A><A NAME="3397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303056859- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003368.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303056859-01303057677- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003369.html">[Mageia-sysadm] packages-commits@ issues
+</A><A NAME="3369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303169633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003373.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303169633-01303227186- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003375.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303169633-01303227186-01303516093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003390.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01303169633-01303227186-01303516093-01303744236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003394.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01303169633-01303227186-01303516093-01303744236-01303847943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003401.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01303169633-01303227186-01303516093-01303744236-01303847943-01303854515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003403.html">[Mageia-sysadm] maven and possible bootstrap.
+</A><A NAME="3403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303289763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003376.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303289763-01303303855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003377.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Problem on rabbit regarding libvirtd
+</A><A NAME="3377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303329318- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003378.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303329318-01303330032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003379.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01303329318-01303364034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003383.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Mail aliases for us ?
+</A><A NAME="3383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303332176- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003380.html">[Mageia-sysadm] secteam stuff
+</A><A NAME="3380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303376944- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003384.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303376944-01303377325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003385.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303376944-01303377325-01303745120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003395.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Possibility to assign bugs to i18n
+</A><A NAME="3395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303405521- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003386.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Drakor
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303405521-01303405854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003387.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Presentation
+</A><A NAME="3387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303416279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003388.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303416279-01303416574- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003389.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303416279-01303416574-01303726379- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003392.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01303416279-01303416574-01303726379-01303736285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003393.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01303416279-01303416574-01303726379-01303736285-01303753466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003396.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Dynlist and change on ldap
+</A><A NAME="3396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303821498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003398.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Beta 2 on mirror
+</A><A NAME="3398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01303841238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003399.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303841238-01304188837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003410.html">[Mageia-sysadm] asking for access rights
+</A><A NAME="3410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01303938748- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003404.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pietr Petronov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01303938748-01303947725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003405.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01303938748-01303947725-01303948096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003406.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01303938748-01303947725-01303978088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003407.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01303938748-01303947725-01303978088-01303986361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003408.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Invalid account
+</A><A NAME="3408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01304067457- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003409.html">[Mageia-sysadm] Fwd: packaging account for who comes from mandriva
+</A><A NAME="3409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:37 CEST 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sat Apr 30 20:40:41 CEST 2011</i>
+ <p>
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