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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 3 18:05:51 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 &#224; 16:39 +0100, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mercredi 03 novembre 2010 &#224; 08:30 +0100, Olivier Blin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; About losing history, maybe it's something we will have to go through,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; not to risk importing copyrighted/trademarked material.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; What would be trademarked in the svn log ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Not in the log message, but in the commit contents.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If we treat this content like we treat the tarballs, then we could
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; workaround the problem, no ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How so?
+</I>
+Well, in fact, it depend on what we do not want to include.
+
+For data ( icones, theme, images ), we can simply put them outside of
+the svn, like we plan to do for tarballs.
+
+For colors, that's indeed trickier, depending on the way they are
+specified. I assume that colors in a patch could indeed be hard to
+avoid.
+
+On the other hand, I also think that saying that a C/perl source code is
+violating a trademark about color would be a big stretch.
+
+Could we check what is exactly trademarked ?
+
+I have check on <A HREF="http://inpi.fr/">http://inpi.fr/</A> , and it seems that the name is
+trademarked, and the logo. Nothing about colors or theme ( even if I
+think we should change them for obvious identity related reason ).
+( and the name &quot;optango&quot;, but this tell me nothing )
+
+I have also checked on
+<A HREF="http://www.copat.de/markenformen/mne_markenformen.htm">http://www.copat.de/markenformen/mne_markenformen.htm</A> , nothing for
+colors and mandriva or mandrakesoft.
+
+The OHIM ( <A HREF="http://oami.europa.eu/">http://oami.europa.eu/</A> ) also return nothing for Mandriva; so
+does the USPTO.
+
+And their FAQ only speak of the star logo :
+<A HREF="http://www.mandriva.com/fr/mentions-legales/mentions-legales#graphics">http://www.mandriva.com/fr/mentions-legales/mentions-legales#graphics</A>
+
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; And more ever, what would be trademarked that we could not remove once
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; we found out ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Names, images, themes, colors.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Since there is still no svn obliterate command, this is quite hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; remove once imported.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So this would also mean we will import only after having cleaned the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; various packages ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This mean then that a review must be started ASAP ( in my humble
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; opinion ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, I started looking at that back in August, and mentionned this in
+</I>&gt;<i> the project chan.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On a minimal install without suggests, I found this files with
+</I>&gt;<i> the &quot;mandriva&quot; name: <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/r5fEpUpQ">http://pastebin.com/r5fEpUpQ</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These are the most obvious to start with.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But we should check with the board if we want to go that far.
+</I>
+Sure. But what is exactly the question :) ?
+
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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