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What was the reason to choose unsustainable format that is not recognized +</I>><i> by the existing toolchains (lang)? +</I> +My past experience with gettext (4 years, I dropped it about 3 years +ago, things may have changed since) has been terrible (mostly, because +gettext is [was?] not thread-safe and the server implementation made +that hugely problematic). So we had erratic server behaviour regarding +locale management on our websites. + +I could have migrated to .po files nonetheless and use a library +reimplementing gettext over it. But frankly, the past struggles with +gettext (in a Web context - it does perfectly its job in a local app +context) made me want to try something else, lighter (so less featured +as well obviously). I know Mozilla used to have .lang files too, I +checked it out a bit and thought it would be worth the try; and +perhaps would we be able to reuse their own libs in this regard. + +><i> 2. Consider someone decided to change something on a webpage. How can we +</I>><i> (translators) know about the changes (Manually parse svn diffs, copy and +</I>><i> paste diffs from PHP page? What about fuzzy matches?) ? +</I> +First, someone would be identified - I commit about 95% of what goes +on www, 5 other percent are between obgr and dams. That's for the +code, content, layout, etc. (I'm not happy with this either). I wrote +quickly report and diff utilities so you can have a look (and we can +rework them, just tell me how), but I expect to sneak peak at +Mozilla's codebase. + +So, upon modified or added contents on a webpage, that would happen in +English only (that's the pivot language). That will need to extract +the string from the source, inject it in the lang file, and the diff +will appear on the report page then. No need for anyone to play with +PHP code, you will only edit the .lang files. + +And there won't be fuzzy matches. The string will be blankly added, or removed. + +><i> P.S. Written when struggling to realize where to place the new strings from +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/langs/report.php">http://www.mageia.org/langs/report.php</A> +</I>><i> Thinking about left this without translation in the future. +</I> +? didn't understand. What was the issue? + +Note that I'm all to improve and ease the translation process for you +- but being alone, I do it with what my experience has been as well - +that will explain as well why I chose a dead boring simple homemade +framework for the Web site, and not an existing CMS - the situation +wouldn't be the same with an active 3 or 4-seats Web team. + +And again, tell me if I'm missing something or if something can be +improved for you. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002917.html">[Mageia-i18n] www pages: about and main index +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002920.html">[Mageia-i18n] www pages: about and main index +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2919">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2919">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2919">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2919">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-i18n">More information about the Mageia-i18n +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |