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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/3a68d446/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/3a68d446/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2ea229491 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/3a68d446/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:25 PM, David W. Hodgins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidwhodgins@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidwhodgins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:27:32 -0400, Alejandro López <<a href="mailto:listas.apl@gmail.com" target="_blank">listas.apl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +How can you know before buying the PC whether it has UEFI? Is it mentioned<br> +somewhere? I thought about asking the selling person, but chances are that<br> +he/she will have no clue about what UEFI is, and will invent the answer.<br> +</blockquote> +<br> +The best way, in my opinion, is to find out what motherboard is in the<br> +system, find the user manual online, and check it out.<br> +<br> +Given the story at<br> +<a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Aldi-PC-becomes-first-retail-PC-with-UEFI-Secure-Boot-1635893.html" target="_blank">http://www.h-online.com/<u></u>security/news/item/Aldi-PC-<u></u>becomes-first-retail-PC-with-<u></u>UEFI-Secure-Boot-1635893.html</a><br> + +at present, anything that has been on the market for more than 1 month,<br> +will NOT have secure boot available, let alone not be able to be disabled.<br> +<br> +So, it's only going to become a problem at some point in the future.<br></blockquote><div><br><br>This was very isntructive. Thanks.<br><br><br>Alejandro.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + +<br> +Regards, Dave Hodgins<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/3a68d446/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/3a68d446/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2ea229491 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/3a68d446/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:25 PM, David W. Hodgins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidwhodgins@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidwhodgins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:27:32 -0400, Alejandro López <<a href="mailto:listas.apl@gmail.com" target="_blank">listas.apl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +How can you know before buying the PC whether it has UEFI? Is it mentioned<br> +somewhere? I thought about asking the selling person, but chances are that<br> +he/she will have no clue about what UEFI is, and will invent the answer.<br> +</blockquote> +<br> +The best way, in my opinion, is to find out what motherboard is in the<br> +system, find the user manual online, and check it out.<br> +<br> +Given the story at<br> +<a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Aldi-PC-becomes-first-retail-PC-with-UEFI-Secure-Boot-1635893.html" target="_blank">http://www.h-online.com/<u></u>security/news/item/Aldi-PC-<u></u>becomes-first-retail-PC-with-<u></u>UEFI-Secure-Boot-1635893.html</a><br> + +at present, anything that has been on the market for more than 1 month,<br> +will NOT have secure boot available, let alone not be able to be disabled.<br> +<br> +So, it's only going to become a problem at some point in the future.<br></blockquote><div><br><br>This was very isntructive. Thanks.<br><br><br>Alejandro.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + +<br> +Regards, Dave Hodgins<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/92cbb781/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/92cbb781/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1119b5a09 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/92cbb781/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +<html> + <head> + + <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + Mageia is now seen in public (LWN) as a well-maintained + distribution.<br> + e.g. Monday:<br> + <p> + <b>Mageia</b> has updated <a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511043/">dropbear</a> (code + execution), <b>wireshark</b> (<a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511044/">M1</a>; <a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511049/">M2</a>: denial of + service), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511045/">dokuwiki</a> + (cross-site scripting), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511046/">python3</a> + (data leaks, memory damage, and + crash), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511047/">gypsy</a> + (multiple vulnerabilities), + <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511050/">icecast</a> (forged log + entries), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511051/">openttd</a> + (denial of service), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511052/">libxml2</a> + (denial of service), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511053/">ettercap</a> + (insecure settings file), <a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511055/">acpid</a> (M1: multiple + vulnerabilities), and <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511056/">acpid</a> + (M2: privilege escalation). + </p> + <br> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/92cbb781/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/92cbb781/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1119b5a09 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/92cbb781/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +<html> + <head> + + <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + Mageia is now seen in public (LWN) as a well-maintained + distribution.<br> + e.g. Monday:<br> + <p> + <b>Mageia</b> has updated <a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511043/">dropbear</a> (code + execution), <b>wireshark</b> (<a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511044/">M1</a>; <a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511049/">M2</a>: denial of + service), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511045/">dokuwiki</a> + (cross-site scripting), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511046/">python3</a> + (data leaks, memory damage, and + crash), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511047/">gypsy</a> + (multiple vulnerabilities), + <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511050/">icecast</a> (forged log + entries), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511051/">openttd</a> + (denial of service), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511052/">libxml2</a> + (denial of service), <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511053/">ettercap</a> + (insecure settings file), <a + href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511055/">acpid</a> (M1: multiple + vulnerabilities), and <a href="http://lwn.net/Articles/511056/">acpid</a> + (M2: privilege escalation). + </p> + <br> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/b3e0f326/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/b3e0f326/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2939032b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/b3e0f326/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:55 AM, David W. Hodgins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidwhodgins@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidwhodgins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:07:07 -0400, Maurice Batey <<a href="mailto:maurice@bcs.org.uk" target="_blank">maurice@bcs.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:40:20 +1000, Tony Blackwell wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +Unfortunately, UEFI bios can not turn off.<br> +</blockquote> +<br> + I had the same non-reply from a UK PC assembler (which uses ASUS<br> +MB's).<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br>How can you know before buying the PC whether it has UEFI? Is it mentioned somewhere? I thought about asking the selling person, but chances are that he/she will have no clue about what UEFI is, and will invent the answer.<br> +<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + +<br> + They don't seem aware of Secure Boot, and assume you want to turn<br> +UEFI itself off, which is nonsense.<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +But it doesn't matter what OS you wan to isntall .<br> +</blockquote> +<br> + Which seems to suggest Secure Boot *can* be disabled!<br> +</blockquote> +<br></div></div> +I've recently bought an ASUS Sabertooth 990FX, which is a uefi<br> +motherboard.<br> +<br> +Secure boot cannot be ENabled. There is no such option yet<br> +in the existing ASUS motherboards, hence the support staff<br> +don't have a clue what is being asked.<br> +<br> +Regards, Dave Hodgins<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/b3e0f326/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/b3e0f326/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2939032b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/b3e0f326/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,34 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:55 AM, David W. Hodgins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidwhodgins@gmail.com" target="_blank">davidwhodgins@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:07:07 -0400, Maurice Batey <<a href="mailto:maurice@bcs.org.uk" target="_blank">maurice@bcs.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 04:40:20 +1000, Tony Blackwell wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +Unfortunately, UEFI bios can not turn off.<br> +</blockquote> +<br> + I had the same non-reply from a UK PC assembler (which uses ASUS<br> +MB's).<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br>How can you know before buying the PC whether it has UEFI? Is it mentioned somewhere? I thought about asking the selling person, but chances are that he/she will have no clue about what UEFI is, and will invent the answer.<br> +<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> + +<br> + They don't seem aware of Secure Boot, and assume you want to turn<br> +UEFI itself off, which is nonsense.<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +But it doesn't matter what OS you wan to isntall .<br> +</blockquote> +<br> + Which seems to suggest Secure Boot *can* be disabled!<br> +</blockquote> +<br></div></div> +I've recently bought an ASUS Sabertooth 990FX, which is a uefi<br> +motherboard.<br> +<br> +Secure boot cannot be ENabled. There is no such option yet<br> +in the existing ASUS motherboards, hence the support staff<br> +don't have a clue what is being asked.<br> +<br> +Regards, Dave Hodgins<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/bb956c2d/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/bb956c2d/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..378129ada --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/bb956c2d/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<html> + <head> + + <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + re:<br> + <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> + <pre wrap="">My current understanding from communications with ASUS and Gigabyte is +that their BIOS's will not provide any way to disable secure boot. +</pre> + </blockquote> + <pre wrap=""> In which case won't pre-Windows 8 versions of Windows fail to boot? + +Can you quote a source w.r.t. ASUS & Gigabyte situation, please? +</pre> + <br> + <br> + A. My responses from: (See also ref to relevant lwn discussion at + tail of this)<br> + (Have I over-interpreted their replies: you judge)<br> + <br> + 1. ASUS (The actual motherboard mentioned was just one of their new + UEFI ones I selected to keep the website happy)<br> + <br> + ASUS CASEID=RWTM20120422197363025-780 <br> + <snip><br> + Dear Valued Customer,<br> + Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.<br> + My name is Andrew and it's my pleasure to help you with your + problem.<br> + You can install the other OS on the board.But we do dnot support + drives for Linux on this board.<br> + Welcome to refer Troubleshooting & FAQ for ASUS products in ASUS + website:<br> + <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://support.asus.com/servicehome.aspx?SLanguage=en">http://support.asus.com/servicehome.aspx?SLanguage=en</a><br> + If you continue to experience issues in the future, please do not + hesitate to contact us.<br> + Best Regards,<br> + Andrew<br> + <br> + ---------- Original Message ----------<br> + From : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tablackwell@bigpond.com">tablackwell@bigpond.com</a><br> + Sent : 2012-4-22 11:07:11<br> + To : <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tsd@asus.com.tw">"tsd@asus.com.tw"</a><br> + Subject : <TSD> Motherboard SABERTOOTH X79<br> + <br> + [Product Information]<br> + *Product Type : Motherboard<br> + *Product Model : SABERTOOTH X79<br> + <snip><br> + [CPU Specification]<br> + *CPU Vendor : intel<br> + *CPU Type : 2011<br> + *CPU Speed : 3.3<br> + <snip><br> + *Operating System : Linux<br> + <br> + [Problem Description]<br> + We are looking at buying motherboards based on the Intel 2011 + pinout, for use with<br> + linux.. You use UEFI. Do you provide a way to disable secure boot to + enable us to<br> + boot any linux or other operating system of our choice? How do you + implement this?<br> + <br> + With thanks,<br> + Tony Blackwell<br> + Medical Multimedia<br> + <br> + <br> + And a further response from ASUS:<br> + <br> + Dear Valued Customer,<br> + Unfortunately, UEFI bios can not turn off.<br> + But it doesn't matter what OS you wan to isntall .<br> + Best Regards,<br> + Andrew<br> + <br> + ---------- Original Message ----------<br> + From : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tablackwell@bigpond.com">tablackwell@bigpond.com</a><br> + Sent : 2012-4-23 7:02:17<br> + To : <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tsd@asus.com.tw">"tsd@asus.com.tw"</a><br> + Subject : Re:Re:<TSD> Motherboard SABERTOOTH X79 + [ID=RWTM20120422197363025-780]<br> + <br> + [CASEID=WTM2012042315107754]<br> + <br> + Dear Andrew,<br> + Thankyou for the prompt reply. Unfortunately you didn't answer my + question about<br> + UEFI at all.<br> + I am asking about _all_ your Intel 2011 pin-out boards.<br> + I ask again, does your UEFI have a way to turn off secure boot? + Alternatively, have you<br> + set it up so it will only boot Microsoft software?<br> + Do you have any Intel 2011 boards with a UEFI where the user can + turn off secure<br> + boot? Which models?<br> + Thanks for your time<br> + Regards,<br> + <br> + 2. From Gigabyte:<br> + My question and their answer is at:<br> + <font color="#0000ff"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/gtsemail.asp?UserEmail=tablackwell@bigpond.com&EmailID=1212853&EmailPreviousID=1212853&OpenEmail=Y&LanguageID=1">http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/gtsemail.asp?UserEmail=tablackwell@bigpond.com&EmailID=1212853&EmailPreviousID=1212853&OpenEmail=Y&LanguageID=1</a> + <br> + <br> + <br> + 3. See relevant lwn discussion:<br> + <br> + <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lwn.net/Articles/510764/#Comments">http://lwn.net/Articles/510764/#Comments</a><br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + </font><br> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/bb956c2d/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/bb956c2d/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..378129ada --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/bb956c2d/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<html> + <head> + + <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> + </head> + <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> + re:<br> + <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> + <pre wrap="">My current understanding from communications with ASUS and Gigabyte is +that their BIOS's will not provide any way to disable secure boot. +</pre> + </blockquote> + <pre wrap=""> In which case won't pre-Windows 8 versions of Windows fail to boot? + +Can you quote a source w.r.t. ASUS & Gigabyte situation, please? +</pre> + <br> + <br> + A. My responses from: (See also ref to relevant lwn discussion at + tail of this)<br> + (Have I over-interpreted their replies: you judge)<br> + <br> + 1. ASUS (The actual motherboard mentioned was just one of their new + UEFI ones I selected to keep the website happy)<br> + <br> + ASUS CASEID=RWTM20120422197363025-780 <br> + <snip><br> + Dear Valued Customer,<br> + Thank you for contacting ASUS Customer Service.<br> + My name is Andrew and it's my pleasure to help you with your + problem.<br> + You can install the other OS on the board.But we do dnot support + drives for Linux on this board.<br> + Welcome to refer Troubleshooting & FAQ for ASUS products in ASUS + website:<br> + <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://support.asus.com/servicehome.aspx?SLanguage=en">http://support.asus.com/servicehome.aspx?SLanguage=en</a><br> + If you continue to experience issues in the future, please do not + hesitate to contact us.<br> + Best Regards,<br> + Andrew<br> + <br> + ---------- Original Message ----------<br> + From : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tablackwell@bigpond.com">tablackwell@bigpond.com</a><br> + Sent : 2012-4-22 11:07:11<br> + To : <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tsd@asus.com.tw">"tsd@asus.com.tw"</a><br> + Subject : <TSD> Motherboard SABERTOOTH X79<br> + <br> + [Product Information]<br> + *Product Type : Motherboard<br> + *Product Model : SABERTOOTH X79<br> + <snip><br> + [CPU Specification]<br> + *CPU Vendor : intel<br> + *CPU Type : 2011<br> + *CPU Speed : 3.3<br> + <snip><br> + *Operating System : Linux<br> + <br> + [Problem Description]<br> + We are looking at buying motherboards based on the Intel 2011 + pinout, for use with<br> + linux.. You use UEFI. Do you provide a way to disable secure boot to + enable us to<br> + boot any linux or other operating system of our choice? How do you + implement this?<br> + <br> + With thanks,<br> + Tony Blackwell<br> + Medical Multimedia<br> + <br> + <br> + And a further response from ASUS:<br> + <br> + Dear Valued Customer,<br> + Unfortunately, UEFI bios can not turn off.<br> + But it doesn't matter what OS you wan to isntall .<br> + Best Regards,<br> + Andrew<br> + <br> + ---------- Original Message ----------<br> + From : <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:tablackwell@bigpond.com">tablackwell@bigpond.com</a><br> + Sent : 2012-4-23 7:02:17<br> + To : <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tsd@asus.com.tw">"tsd@asus.com.tw"</a><br> + Subject : Re:Re:<TSD> Motherboard SABERTOOTH X79 + [ID=RWTM20120422197363025-780]<br> + <br> + [CASEID=WTM2012042315107754]<br> + <br> + Dear Andrew,<br> + Thankyou for the prompt reply. Unfortunately you didn't answer my + question about<br> + UEFI at all.<br> + I am asking about _all_ your Intel 2011 pin-out boards.<br> + I ask again, does your UEFI have a way to turn off secure boot? + Alternatively, have you<br> + set it up so it will only boot Microsoft software?<br> + Do you have any Intel 2011 boards with a UEFI where the user can + turn off secure<br> + boot? Which models?<br> + Thanks for your time<br> + Regards,<br> + <br> + 2. From Gigabyte:<br> + My question and their answer is at:<br> + <font color="#0000ff"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/gtsemail.asp?UserEmail=tablackwell@bigpond.com&EmailID=1212853&EmailPreviousID=1212853&OpenEmail=Y&LanguageID=1">http://ggts.gigabyte.com.tw/gtsemail.asp?UserEmail=tablackwell@bigpond.com&EmailID=1212853&EmailPreviousID=1212853&OpenEmail=Y&LanguageID=1</a> + <br> + <br> + <br> + 3. See relevant lwn discussion:<br> + <br> + <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lwn.net/Articles/510764/#Comments">http://lwn.net/Articles/510764/#Comments</a><br> + <br> + <br> + <br> + </font><br> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/c67349ef/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/c67349ef/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ebde837d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/c67349ef/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Sander Lepik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sander.lepik@eesti.ee" target="_blank">sander.lepik@eesti.ee</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div class="im">2012/8/14 Alejandro López <<a href="mailto:listas.apl@gmail.com">listas.apl@gmail.com</a>><br> +> How can you know before buying the PC whether it has UEFI? Is it mentioned somewhere? I thought about asking the selling person, but chances are that he/she will have no clue about what UEFI is, and will invent the answer.<br> + +<br> +</div>I think the best place to search for answer is the user's manual<br></blockquote><div><br>Surely! I was thinking about something more evident such as a sticker, some text shown at POST time, etc.<br><br><br></div> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> +--<br> +Sander<br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/c67349ef/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/c67349ef/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8ebde837d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120814/c67349ef/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Sander Lepik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sander.lepik@eesti.ee" target="_blank">sander.lepik@eesti.ee</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +<div class="im">2012/8/14 Alejandro López <<a href="mailto:listas.apl@gmail.com">listas.apl@gmail.com</a>><br> +> How can you know before buying the PC whether it has UEFI? Is it mentioned somewhere? I thought about asking the selling person, but chances are that he/she will have no clue about what UEFI is, and will invent the answer.<br> + +<br> +</div>I think the best place to search for answer is the user's manual<br></blockquote><div><br>Surely! I was thinking about something more evident such as a sticker, some text shown at POST time, etc.<br><br><br></div> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> +--<br> +Sander<br> +</blockquote></div><br> |