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+ <B>Tony Blackwell</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jun 26 07:50:33 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Thankyou for the info in response to my earlier query. I forwarded on
+the web references received earlier in the thread to LWN, with some
+encouragement, and received a prompt reply:
+
+&quot;We are evaluating the Mageia advisories. Hopefully we'll be adding
+them soon.&quot;
+
+Will help to remind many of Mageia's ongoing activity.
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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jun 26 08:52:48 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 25/06/12 11:55, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100 Anne Wilson&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Plain M2 :-) Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> exact words). Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that, owned anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Unable to truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something has changed wrt local mail. Are we now talking about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ? What do I need to do now?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anne - --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird will be putting your mail somewhere else. I suspect
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that it will be a dot-directory under /home/anne, perhaps a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subdirectory of your .mozilla directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think that TB uses the mbox file format. That means that your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inbox will be one big file. Perhaps TB is trying to delete the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> old mails, hence &quot;truncate.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That makes sense, yes. I had assumed that it was talking about system
+</I>&gt;<i> messages, which I would expect to be in /var/spool/mail/anne.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am using IMAP - not Disconnected IMAP - IOW, I don't store mail
+</I>&gt;<i> locally (though I did previously), so that shouldn't be the problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> All the same, I'll give it some thought.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>If you are using IMAP, by default it will download a message each time
+you view it, instead of downloading once and leaving it on your
+computer. (The plus is easier access from different computers.)
+I don't know how mozilla (thunderbird or seamonkey) deals with IMAP, but
+if a message is larger than the message size download limit, that could
+be the problem.
+With seamonkey the message size limit is set under
+account_preferences/disk_space. (free translation from french)
+I imagine that thunderbird uses a similar location
+
+With POP3 (which I use), it downloads the beginning of an oversized
+message and displays &quot;truncated. If you click on the link displayed, it
+will then downloads the entire message, then deletes the partial message
+that was first downloaded.
+Maybe checking ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/xxxxxxxx.*/Mail/{accountname}/inbox
+or similar will give you some clues.
+
+Regards
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
+
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+On 26/06/12 07:52, andre999 wrote:
+&gt;<i> Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 25/06/12 11:55, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100 Anne Wilson&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Plain M2 :-) Every time I started Thunderbird I got a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> message that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> remember the exact words). Assuming it meant
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned anne:mail (I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tried root, too), but now the message is &quot;Unable to truncate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> spool file /var/spool/mail/anne&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> checked there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guess something has changed wrt local mail. Are we now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> talking about ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ? What do I need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> do now?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anne - --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird will be putting your mail somewhere else. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> suspect that it will be a dot-directory under /home/anne,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps a subdirectory of your .mozilla directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think that TB uses the mbox file format. That means that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> your inbox will be one big file. Perhaps TB is trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> delete the old mails, hence &quot;truncate.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That makes sense, yes. I had assumed that it was talking about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system messages, which I would expect to be in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am using IMAP - not Disconnected IMAP - IOW, I don't store mail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locally (though I did previously), so that shouldn't be the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> problem. All the same, I'll give it some thought.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne - --
+</I>&gt;<i> If you are using IMAP, by default it will download a message each
+</I>&gt;<i> time you view it, instead of downloading once and leaving it on
+</I>&gt;<i> your computer. (The plus is easier access from different
+</I>&gt;<i> computers.) I don't know how mozilla (thunderbird or seamonkey)
+</I>&gt;<i> deals with IMAP, but if a message is larger than the message size
+</I>&gt;<i> download limit, that could be the problem. With seamonkey the
+</I>&gt;<i> message size limit is set under account_preferences/disk_space.
+</I>&gt;<i> (free translation from french) I imagine that thunderbird uses a
+</I>&gt;<i> similar location
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With POP3 (which I use), it downloads the beginning of an oversized
+</I>&gt;<i> message and displays &quot;truncated. If you click on the link
+</I>&gt;<i> displayed, it will then downloads the entire message, then deletes
+</I>&gt;<i> the partial message that was first downloaded. Maybe checking
+</I>&gt;<i> ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/xxxxxxxx.*/Mail/{accountname}/inbox or
+</I>&gt;<i> similar will give you some clues.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good suggestion, but the message popup was seen as Thunderbird
+started, not during downloading. Although I think it is &quot;cured&quot; I'd
+really like to know what was happening. Still....
+
+Anne
+- --
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+On 25/06/12 17:36, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:54:20 +1000 Doug Laidlaw
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The other thought is that the 4upsp8fe.default is a user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> directory as with Mozilla. Is there another one alongside it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird may be looking at the wrong one?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>No, no other account.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My only other thought was to create a new profile. I have done
+</I>&gt;<i> this with Mozilla. The procedure for Thunderbird should be much
+</I>&gt;<i> the same, and will be on the Thunderbird page at mozilla.org. It
+</I>&gt;<i> should get rid of any permission problems. Since you may have it
+</I>&gt;<i> solved anyway, you probably don't need to take that step.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Going to bed. 1t is 02:35 here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug.
+</I>
+Thanks to everyone for their help. I'm still puzzled as to why the
+problem started, but since it has gone away I'll live with that and
+hope that at some point the penny drops :-)
+
+I'm inclined to follow Juergen's advice and create a movemail account,
+though, just in case.... During well over 10 years of using KMail and
+Thunderbird I've never needed to, but it can't harm, and might pick up
+some things otherwise missed.
+
+Anne
+- --
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+<PRE>Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 26/06/12 07:52, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne Wilson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 25/06/12 11:55, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100 Anne Wilson&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Plain M2 :-) Every time I started Thunderbird I got a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> message that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> remember the exact words). Assuming it meant
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned anne:mail (I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tried root, too), but now the message is &quot;Unable to truncate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> spool file /var/spool/mail/anne&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> checked there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guess something has changed wrt local mail. Are we now
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> talking about ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ? What do I need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> do now?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anne - --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird will be putting your mail somewhere else. I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> suspect that it will be a dot-directory under /home/anne,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps a subdirectory of your .mozilla directory.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think that TB uses the mbox file format. That means that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> your inbox will be one big file. Perhaps TB is trying to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> delete the old mails, hence &quot;truncate.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That makes sense, yes. I had assumed that it was talking about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system messages, which I would expect to be in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am using IMAP - not Disconnected IMAP - IOW, I don't store mail
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> locally (though I did previously), so that shouldn't be the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> problem. All the same, I'll give it some thought.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anne - --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you are using IMAP, by default it will download a message each
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time you view it, instead of downloading once and leaving it on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> your computer. (The plus is easier access from different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> computers.) I don't know how mozilla (thunderbird or seamonkey)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> deals with IMAP, but if a message is larger than the message size
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> download limit, that could be the problem. With seamonkey the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> message size limit is set under account_preferences/disk_space.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (free translation from french) I imagine that thunderbird uses a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> similar location
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With POP3 (which I use), it downloads the beginning of an oversized
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> message and displays &quot;truncated. If you click on the link
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> displayed, it will then downloads the entire message, then deletes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the partial message that was first downloaded. Maybe checking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/xxxxxxxx.*/Mail/{accountname}/inbox or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> similar will give you some clues.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Good suggestion, but the message popup was seen as Thunderbird
+</I>&gt;<i> started, not during downloading. Although I think it is &quot;cured&quot; I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> really like to know what was happening. Still....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Doesn't Thunderbird automatically check messages when you start it ?
+(That is the default, isn't it ?)
+
+So if it happened to encounter an oversized message ?
+Alternately, the suggestions by others regarding a locally installed
+email agent...
+
+&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+...
+&gt;<i> It's odd, but I may have solved the problem. That said, I still don't
+</I>&gt;<i> understand why. During the time I've been trying to solve this, I
+</I>&gt;<i> have made two changes. First I added a newline character in
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne - this seems to have disappeared, so I doubt if
+</I>&gt;<i> that was the reason. The other change was to make the ownership
+</I>&gt;<i> anne:mail. Maybe that helped? I don't know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think the ownership change solved it.
+It corresponds to the ownership on my system (group = mail).
+
+&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> - --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>--
+Andr&#233;
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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
+
+Let's speak about Mageia and Mageia.Org whole experience. What do you
+see we* should do? and how?
+
+By experience, we mean a lot: goals, community, identity, branding,
+marketing, communication, design, graphics, artwork, Web, events, the
+very distribution UI, tools integration, windows decoration, boot
+sequence, shutdown sequence, etc.
+
+Note that this is not the same as the general functional features
+request on mageia-dev for Mageia 3.
+
+Don't restrain yourself. Of course, it's better if it's workable, or
+if you can lend a hand. Tell it, here:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Atelier_feedback">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Atelier_feedback</A>
+
+And please do it now. Because starting Tuesday July 3rd, we will
+aggressively edit this document to reduce it to something organized,
+and to something that we can and want to do. So your ideas will maybe
+be taken into account, merged, mixed, or ignored. Either way, we need
+your point of view.
+
+Thanks!
+
+* we = Mageia makers, and especially the newly Atelier team (artwork,
+marcom and web merge, with extended goals) that will try to act on
+this.
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+<PRE>[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at lasaba</A> ~]# LC_ALL=C urpmi --auto-select
+To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
+ Package Version Release Arch
+(medium &quot;Core Release&quot;)
+ lib64nautilus-gir3.0 3.5.3 1.mga3 x86_64
+ lib64nautilus1 3.5.3 1.mga3 x86_64
+ lib64smbclient0 3.6.6 1.mga3 x86_64
+ nautilus 3.5.3 1.mga3 x86_64
+ perl-Parse-EDID 1.0.1 1.mga3 noarch
+ samba-client 3.6.6 1.mga3 x86_64
+ samba-common 3.6.6 1.mga3 x86_64
+ samba-server 3.6.6 1.mga3 x86_64
+22KB of additional disk space will be used.
+17MB of packages will be retrieved.
+Proceed with the installation of the 8 packages? (Y/n)
+
+
+installing perl-Parse-EDID-1.0.1-1.mga3.noarch.rpm
+nautilus-3.5.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm samba-server-3.6.6-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64nautilus1-3.5.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+samba-client-3.6.6-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+samba-common-3.6.6-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64smbclient0-3.6.6-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm
+lib64nautilus-gir3.0-3.5.3-1.mga3.x86_64.rpm from
+/mageia/mga/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+Preparing...
+################################################################################################################################################################################
+Installation failed: file /usr/share/samba/scripts/smb-migrate
+conflicts between attempted installs of samba-server-3.6.6-1.mga3.x86_64
+and samba-common-3.6.6-1.mga3.x86_64
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+ <B>Anne Wilson</B>
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+On 26/06/12 08:49, andre999 wrote:
+&gt;<i> Doesn't Thunderbird automatically check messages when you start it
+</I>&gt;<i> ? (That is the default, isn't it ?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if it happened to encounter an oversized message ? Alternately,
+</I>&gt;<i> the suggestions by others regarding a locally installed email
+</I>&gt;<i> agent...
+</I>
+I usually configure to check every 5 minutes, but not at startup. I'm
+convinced that oversized message is not part of this.
+
+Anne
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+On 25/06/12 17:23, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 06/25/2012 11:43 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's odd, but I may have solved the problem. That said, I still
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't understand why. During the time I've been trying to solve
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this, I have made two changes. First I added a newline character
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in /var/spool/mail/anne - this seems to have disappeared, so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doubt if that was the reason. The other change was to make the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ownership anne:mail. Maybe that helped?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought you had posted earlier that you changed the ownership to
+</I>&gt;<i> anne:mail and that didn't help ? That is the correct ownership.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you're using IMAP through TB, your mail folders will be under
+</I>&gt;<i> $HOME/.thunderbird/xxx.default/ImapMail/servername. The problem
+</I>&gt;<i> you describe with /var/spool/mail/anne can only occur if your MTA
+</I>&gt;<i> (postfix) doesn't have write authority to that file. In fact, I
+</I>&gt;<i> notice on my system that my /var/spool/mail/ftg file has ownership
+</I>&gt;<i> ftg:mail, but the permissions are only rw-------, so I guess
+</I>&gt;<i> postfix must be assuming an euid of the recipient before trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> write to the file, i. e. the group shouldn't matter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In any case, if you can do mail anne Subject: Test line 1 CTRL-D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and it gets through to /var/spool/mail/anne, then it's working. If
+</I>&gt;<i> it's not, try renaimng the file as root, rerun the test, and see
+</I>&gt;<i> what gets created for that file.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you still see the message, try to identify what's issuing it.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's possible that if TB somehow got hooked up with that file, it
+</I>&gt;<i> may be trying to auto-compact it or something.
+</I>
+That was interesting. The message was delivered to an account called
+System, type Unix Movemail, server name localhost. Not sure, but it
+looks as though maybe I set that up thinking that I didn't have any
+provision for local messages. Now it's beginning to make sense. It
+really does look as though it was a permissions problem, in not having
+mail as the group. When I said it hadn't helped, maybe I hadn't
+restarted after the change.
+
+Sorry if this all sounds confused. Family problems are taking much of
+my time just now and I keep dropping the ball. Still, I've learned
+some useful stuff.
+
+Thanks again, everybody.
+
+Anne
+
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+On 25/06/12 17:05, Juergen Harms wrote:
+&gt;<i> hOn 06/25/2012 03:05 PM, James Kerr wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If indeed Anne is using POP or IMAP to collect &quot;local&quot; mail then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't think she needs to configure a Unix Movemail account in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thunderbird. I believe it is that account that is looking at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/spool/mail/anne. Perhaps she has such an account on Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2 but not in cauldron, which would explain why she does not see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the error messages on cauldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Jim
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 06/25/2012 05:20 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To be honest I don't recall ever hearing of movemail before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this, so I don't know where it comes from.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The answer from Jim is the essential thing - no need to mess
+</I>&gt;<i> around with /var/spool/mailo/anne - Thunderbird can do all this for
+</I>&gt;<i> you, you just need to create an additional Thunderbird account of
+</I>&gt;<i> type &quot;Movemail&quot;. But it may appear somewhat devious to do this,
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird playing hide-and-seek with you:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try to come to the &quot;Account actions&quot; tab in Thunderbird and,
+</I>&gt;<i> there, hit the &quot;Add other accounts&quot; button. That gives you a radio
+</I>&gt;<i> button, one of its choices beeing &quot;Unix Mailspool (Movemail)&quot;. Once
+</I>&gt;<i> you are there, you should be on safe ground to create the special
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird &quot;Movemail&quot; account (what Thunderbird calls an
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;account&quot;) that collects mail from the Unix /var/spool/mail/anne.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Where Thunderbird stores the local folders for this account is a
+</I>&gt;<i> totally independant issue, to set this up you proceed just as for
+</I>&gt;<i> ordinary thunderbird accounts.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I use such an account all the time to collect the messages created
+</I>&gt;<i> locally, for instance by msec - works great.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ridiculous as it sounds, it seems that I had already set up such an
+account, called System. I discovered it when following up from
+Frank's suggestion of testing through Mail. The truth is that I did
+this install between hospital visits to my mother, and clearly my
+brain was addled, so I did things that I don't remember.
+
+Sorry for all the noise. The up-side is that I've learned things -
+always good.
+
+When I came to Mageia I said it felt like coming home. The helpful
+discussions on the Mageia lists remind me forcibly of my early Linux
+days, in Mandrake 8. The community was so supportive of a learner.
+As I've joined mailing lists of other distributions I've really seen
+what an example is set here. :-D
+
+Anne
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+about Mageia, but also about Pulseaudio since Colin maintains it for
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+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Jun 26 07:50:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jun 26 23:53:07 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 12<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia security updates (Tony Blackwell)
+</A><A NAME="8038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED
+</A><A NAME="8041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?
+</A><A NAME="8043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008044.html">[Mageia-discuss] What needs to be done, in experience/artwork? mga3- and project-wise
+</A><A NAME="8044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008045.html">[Mageia-discuss] Conflict upgrading samba
+</A><A NAME="8045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luiz Alberto Saba
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?
+</A><A NAME="8047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Crivins Episode 20 Mageia Special
+</A><A NAME="8049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Jun 26 23:53:07 CEST 2012</i><br>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Jun 26 07:50:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jun 26 23:53:07 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 12<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008045.html">[Mageia-discuss] Conflict upgrading samba
+</A><A NAME="8045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luiz Alberto Saba
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Crivins Episode 20 Mageia Special
+</A><A NAME="8049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia security updates (Tony Blackwell)
+</A><A NAME="8038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED
+</A><A NAME="8041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?
+</A><A NAME="8043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?
+</A><A NAME="8047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="008044.html">[Mageia-discuss] What needs to be done, in experience/artwork? mga3- and project-wise
+</A><A NAME="8044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Jun 26 07:50:33 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Jun 26 23:53:07 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 12<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01340689833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia security updates (Tony Blackwell)
+</A><A NAME="8038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340693568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01340693568-01340695212- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01340693568-01340695212-01340696994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01340693568-01340695212-01340696994-01340730658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01340695645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED
+</A><A NAME="8041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340697868- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?
+</A><A NAME="8043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340713858- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008044.html">[Mageia-discuss] What needs to be done, in experience/artwork? mga3- and project-wise
+</A><A NAME="8044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340715070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008045.html">[Mageia-discuss] Conflict upgrading samba
+</A><A NAME="8045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luiz Alberto Saba
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340731154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?
+</A><A NAME="8047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340736198- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail
+</A><A NAME="8048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Wilson
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01340747587- -->
+<LI><A HREF="008049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Crivins Episode 20 Mageia Special
+</A><A NAME="8049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
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