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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Stand up for your freedom to install free software - perhaps OT</H1>
+ <B>Norbert Marchl</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Stand%20up%20for%20your%20freedom%20to%20install%20free%0A%20software%20-%20perhaps%20OT&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD05189.2050203%40aon.at%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Stand up for your freedom to install free software - perhaps OT">norbert.marchl at aon.at
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+ <I>Thu Jun 7 09:00:25 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Am 2012-06-07 01:28, schrieb Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure if others have seen this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement">http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> John
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The statement says that all new computers must have the Windows-only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lock. What about upgrades? If I buy a computer from a Linux dealer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and retrofit Windows 8, where do I stand?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am staying with XP. The dealers still prefer XP over Win7, when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they have a choice. When I can no longer use that, Windows goes out the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> window.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Doug,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Registered Linux user.
+</I>&gt;<i> it means that if vendors will want to have the Win8 Certified Sticker,
+</I>&gt;<i> they
+</I>&gt;<i> will need to provided UEFI Secure Boot with only the windows key.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> that means you can't simply buy a machine and put linux under it, without
+</I>&gt;<i> thinking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Either, you will need to disable Secure Boot (maybe a jumper on mobo
+</I>&gt;<i> or in
+</I>&gt;<i> BIOS) or somehow add extra keys you need to build yourself for your
+</I>&gt;<i> own kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> and bootloader.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> originally, Microsoft had required that this key be hardwired, so that
+</I>&gt;<i> it was
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible to disable it or add any key.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> now it's still true for ARM devices, but not anymore for desktops. (after
+</I>&gt;<i> quite some upheaval Microsoft let it go for desktops)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora made a statement that it'll buy subscription from the windows
+</I>&gt;<i> key in
+</I>&gt;<i> their installer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it's a PITA, but also quite sad.
+</I>Maybe the price for a key like this will become to high, and a projects
+(like mageia that live only with donations and will not be chained on
+one company) can't buy this price and must die. So the only was live in
+the furthure ist M$?
+
+Norbert
+registered translator in the mageia project
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