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+<PRE>On 7 April 2012 14:10, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have been in the day of free internet at Antibes in the south of France,
+</I>&gt;<i> and i had as gift an egg with the mageia logo designed by an open source
+</I>&gt;<i> robot.
+</I>&gt;<i> :D
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHd_UHhnqc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHd_UHhnqc</A>
+</I>
+nice
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 07 april 2012 22:18:27 schreef Tony Blackwell:
+&gt;<i> Not getting very far at all with M2beta2 x86_64. Similar problems on 2
+</I>&gt;<i> machines, one laptop one desktop, both of them 4 yrs old or so. md5 of
+</I>&gt;<i> the install disk is OK.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Choosing lilo at install always results in failure to boot. The
+</I>&gt;<i> system sits frozen showing boot linux message. Looking at the system
+</I>&gt;<i> via M1 from another partition showed syslog had not been created yet (at
+</I>&gt;<i> least on the laptop after 1st failed lilo boot - its there on desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> after several reboots)
+</I>
+is it <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044</A> ?
+
+&gt;<i> 2. re-running the whole install as new install, keeping everything the
+</I>&gt;<i> same, but choosing grub results in a bootable beta2. I then select
+</I>&gt;<i> update all sources and allow this to complete. Then select update your
+</I>&gt;<i> system, it updates glibc and a short list of other things, then
+</I>&gt;<i> terminates silently; I'd expected it would come back with an extended
+</I>&gt;<i> list of packages to update. Re-running update manually, MCC brings up
+</I>&gt;<i> the 'Please wait' sliding progress bar, then immediately above it &quot;A
+</I>&gt;<i> fatal error occurred: Couldn't open RPM DB () at
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.14.2/Rpmdrake/open_db.pm line 74..&quot;
+</I>
+that is <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A> ?
+
+already fixed, but since this is on beta2, it'll only be visibly fixed in beta3
+
+&gt;<i> i.e. I either can't boot it with lilo or can't update it if I got it up
+</I>&gt;<i> via grub.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. Related prblem I guess. Going in via MCC, vi hardware, to set
+</I>&gt;<i> screen stuff has been very flakey. It now tells me needs to install
+</I>&gt;<i> task-x11. OK-ing this gives a brief note about preparing packages
+</I>&gt;<i> installation, results in failure &quot;unable to open rpmdb&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm chasing around in circles with this. Do I need to put these in
+</I>&gt;<i> separate critical bug reports?
+</I>&gt;<i> tonyb
+</I>
+indeed related.
+
+you can follow the workaround on the bug above.
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+<PRE>-&gt; On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:50:15 +0200 Olav Vitters took time to scribe &lt;-
+
+&gt;<i>On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 01:24:04PM +1200, David Taylor wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I run dual monitors with separate x-sessions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Which resolutions?
+</I>
+ both 1440x900
+
+&gt;<i>And nvidia binary driver?
+</I>
+ dkms-nvidia
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>The screenshot seems weird, like the background is broken? This really
+</I>&gt;<i>the case?
+</I>
+ that appears to be so
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've kept my 'cauldron' partition fully updated and until todays updates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gnome has always given me a totally solid blue screen on both monitors, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the .gnome2 folder had no entries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Following todays updates my main monitor appears as seen at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pwx.gen.nz/snapshot1.png (this shot is of gnome login). (Gnome classic is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the same). The second monitor has the blue stripes filling the whole screen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with the panels at top and bottom empty. The panels could not be configured.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unable to get a screenshot of monitor 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone give me a clue as to how to report this as a bug, ie against
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what part on gnome, or if there is a bug on this already what's the bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> report number.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>GDM+GNOME3 background was changed by me in
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4419">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4419</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Only checked in GDM, but seemed to work fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Can you select a different background in System Settings and report what
+</I>&gt;<i>that does?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+
+
+
+.-.-.-.-.-.-.
+
+David Taylor, Puniho
+'the place to be; beneath the Mountain, beside the Sea'
+<A HREF="http://www.pwx.gen.nz">http://www.pwx.gen.nz</A>
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
+whose computer uses linux/open source software, featuring
+Mageia release 1 (Official) for i586, kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga
+Uptime 22:24
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:18:27 -0400, Tony Blackwell &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tablackwell at bigpond.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> 2. re-running the whole install as new install, keeping everything the
+</I>&gt;<i> same, but choosing grub results in a bootable beta2. I then select
+</I>&gt;<i> update all sources and allow this to complete. Then select update your
+</I>&gt;<i> system, it updates glibc and a short list of other things, then
+</I>&gt;<i> terminates silently; I'd expected it would come back with an extended
+</I>&gt;<i> list of packages to update. Re-running update manually, MCC brings up
+</I>&gt;<i> the 'Please wait' sliding progress bar, then immediately above it &quot;A
+</I>&gt;<i> fatal error occurred: Couldn't open RPM DB () at
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.14.2/Rpmdrake/open_db.pm line 74..&quot;
+</I>
+The lilo bug is known
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044</A>
+
+The rpmdrake bug has been fixed since the beta 2 iso was created.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
+
+Workaround is to install, don't do updates, after first boot use
+urpmi --auto-update to update rpmdrake, or for an already broken database ...
+# rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+# rm -f /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock
+# rm -f /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+Then run the urpmi --auto-update.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</PRE>
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 16:18:27 -0400, Tony Blackwell &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tablackwell at bigpond.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; 2. re-running the whole install as new install, keeping everything the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; same, but choosing grub results in a bootable beta2. I then select
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update all sources and allow this to complete. Then select update your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system, it updates glibc and a short list of other things, then
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; terminates silently; I'd expected it would come back with an extended
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; list of packages to update. Re-running update manually, MCC brings up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the 'Please wait' sliding progress bar, then immediately above it &quot;A
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fatal error occurred: Couldn't open RPM DB () at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.14.2/Rpmdrake/open_db.pm line 74..&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The lilo bug is known
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The rpmdrake bug has been fixed since the beta 2 iso was created.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Workaround is to install, don't do updates, after first boot use
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi --auto-update to update rpmdrake, or for an already broken database
+</I>&gt;<i> ... # rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+</I>&gt;<i> # rm -f /var/lib/rpm/.rpm.lock
+</I>&gt;<i> # rm -f /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+</I>&gt;<i> Then run the urpmi --auto-update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
+already said the same thing 1.5 hours before :-)
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+<PRE>Le samedi 7 avril 2012 22:18:27, Tony Blackwell a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Re-running update manually, MCC brings up
+</I>&gt;<i> the 'Please wait' sliding progress bar, then immediately above it &quot;A
+</I>&gt;<i> fatal error occurred: Couldn't open RPM DB () at
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.14.2/Rpmdrake/open_db.pm line 74..&quot;
+</I>
+I have found the same problem after a fresh install.
+My second machine has a beta1 daily updated. It is running rater well.
+
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+ <B>Tony Blackwell</B>
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+<PRE>Thanks to Maarten for prompt reply.
+1. Lilo not booting; I can't tell if
+
+ <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044</A>
+is the same problem; it does concern lilo, but in a raid setting and I wasn't quite clear on what problem was being described there.
+
+2. rpm update failure; Maarten is right, yes is is
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
+ I'll await beta3
+
+
+While I'm at it, beta2 has lost the ability for root to log in graphically. Beta1 was without this on the DVD but upgrades fixed it. Beta2 does not honor the flag set in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, where setting AllowRoot to true has for many releases been all that is required to allow a graphical root login. (useful for system admin, no I never go out on the web as root!) Intended behaviour or accident?
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+<PRE>On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 06:08:55 PM Donald Stewart &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">watersnowrock at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 7 April 2012 14:10, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have been in the day of free internet at Antibes in the south of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; France, and i had as gift an egg with the mageia logo designed by an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; open source robot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; :D
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHd_UHhnqc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHd_UHhnqc</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nice
+</I>
+And I thought that the &quot;Salon du mod&#233;lisme&quot; (on the group's calendar) was
+fashion models! Model trains, etc are much easier to look at!
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+Opera, as it used to do, it is now opening Firefox.
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+If I manually launch /usr/bin/www-browser, Opera is correctly launched.
+
+gconf contains the correct configuration:
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+
+$ update-alternatives --display www-browser
+No alternatives for www-browser.
+
+$ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
+Opera.desktop
+
+A quick search on the web didn't help much. Not even this one:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1442&amp;p=10477&amp;hilit=thunderbird+firefox#p10477">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1442&amp;p=10477&amp;hilit=thunderbird+firefox#p10477</A> because I found anything indicating
+which browser to use on Thunderbird's configuration.
+
+Thunderbird reports to be 10.0.3 which matches the package name: mozilla-thunderbird-10.0.3-1.mga1
+
+
+Has anyone else seen this? Any idea whether it is a bug in Thunderbird or a problem in my configuratioon (which used to work well
+before the latest update)?
+
+Thanks in advance.
+Alejandro.
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+&gt;<i> Thanks to Maarten for prompt reply.
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Lilo not booting; I can't tell if
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> is the same problem; it does concern lilo, but in a raid setting and I
+</I>&gt;<i> wasn't quite clear on what problem was being described there.
+</I>
+anyway, i think the lilo problem will be resolved before release
+
+&gt;<i> 2. rpm update failure; Maarten is right, yes is is
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll await beta3
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I'm at it, beta2 has lost the ability for root to log in graphically.
+</I>&gt;<i> Beta1 was without this on the DVD but upgrades fixed it. Beta2 does not
+</I>&gt;<i> honor the flag set in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, where setting AllowRoot
+</I>&gt;<i> to true has for many releases been all that is required to allow a
+</I>&gt;<i> graphical root login. (useful for system admin, no I never go out on the
+</I>&gt;<i> web as root!) Intended behaviour or accident? tonyb
+</I>
+not sure, but i thought not logging in graphically as root was a feature
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+&gt;<i> Hi Phil,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 2012-04-06 19:10, Phil a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've been happy with Backup Drake, which doesn't seem to be available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> through the Mageia repositories, ever since Mandrake 7.1. I see there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are several backup utilities available, what do other users recommend
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the home hobbyist?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I use LuckyBackup which is found on the Mageia repositories. The version
+</I>&gt;<i> in MCC is 0.4.6 but it was recently updated to v.0.4.7 on the
+</I>&gt;<i> LuckyBackup website.[1] I installed this latest version by downloading
+</I>&gt;<i> the Mandriva 10.1 64bit version and it seems to be working fine so far.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It uses the standard rsync for backing up but has a nice GUI and it does
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty well all types of backups that you would want to do. You just
+</I>&gt;<i> have to play around with it a bit to appreciate all of its settings.
+</I>
+Thanks Marc,
+
+I've installed and run Luckybackup, it works well.
+
+--
+Regards,
+Phil
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+<PRE>2012/4/8 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Op zondag 08 april 2012 10:08:44 schreef Tony Blackwell:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks to Maarten for prompt reply.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Lilo not booting; I can't tell if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5044</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is the same problem; it does concern lilo, but in a raid setting and I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wasn't quite clear on what problem was being described there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway, i think the lilo problem will be resolved before release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. rpm update failure; Maarten is right, yes is is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; I'll await beta3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While I'm at it, beta2 has lost the ability for root to log in graphically.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;Beta1 was without this on the DVD but upgrades fixed it. &#160;Beta2 does not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> honor the flag set in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, where setting AllowRoot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to true has for many releases been all that is required to allow a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> graphical root login. &#160; (useful for system admin, no I never go out on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> web as root!) &#160;Intended behaviour or accident? tonyb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> not sure, but i thought not logging in graphically as root was a feature
+</I>
+Yes, and obviously they have finally closed that easy to open door via kdmrc.
+But maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in
+all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard
+about any sysadmin who did it with a reason.
+
+--
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+
+Le 2012-04-08 02:25, Phil a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 07/04/12 20:24, Marc Par&#233; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Phil,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 2012-04-06 19:10, Phil a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've been happy with Backup Drake, which doesn't seem to be available
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> through the Mageia repositories, ever since Mandrake 7.1. I see there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> are several backup utilities available, what do other users recommend
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for the home hobbyist?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I use LuckyBackup which is found on the Mageia repositories. The version
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in MCC is 0.4.6 but it was recently updated to v.0.4.7 on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LuckyBackup website.[1] I installed this latest version by downloading
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the Mandriva 10.1 64bit version and it seems to be working fine so far.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It uses the standard rsync for backing up but has a nice GUI and it does
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pretty well all types of backups that you would want to do. You just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have to play around with it a bit to appreciate all of its settings.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Marc,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've installed and run Luckybackup, it works well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nice to hear it worked out well.
+
+Marc
+
+--
+Marc Par&#233;
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+ <B>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m</B>
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+<PRE>s&#246;ndagen den 8 april 2012 12.54.04 skrev Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in
+</I>&gt;<i> all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard
+</I>&gt;<i> about any sysadmin who did it with a reason.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+
+Lazyness in my case. Or call it efficiency cause of scarce time.
+I want machines to work for me, do not have all hours to learn everything.
+
+I can not learn everything, even less remember it.
+A GUI session often have lots of useable tools to see what is going on, web
+browser to read documentation of what i am trying to do, can copy to virtual
+terminal, etc.
+
+That is why even my server always runs KDE (but not as root)
+
+Um... when i think about it i have not used GUI as root for a year or so, but
+it was a time saver in the beginning and i might have given up on Linux
+without it.
+
+This is the few sysadmin hours of an own smalll company owner and home server.
+
+--
+Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 08 april 2012 12:54:04 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> &gt; not sure, but i thought not logging in graphically as root was a feature
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, and obviously they have finally closed that easy to open door via
+</I>&gt;<i> kdmrc. But maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in
+</I>&gt;<i> all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard about
+</I>&gt;<i> any sysadmin who did it with a reason.
+</I>
+i second it with +12y =&gt; makes 29y so far :-)
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+<PRE>On 04/08/2012 04:24 AM, Alejandro L&#243;pez wrote:
+&gt;<i> A few days ago I made a normal update on my Mageia 1 system. Since then,
+</I>&gt;<i> when I click on a link in Thunderbird, instead of opening Opera, as it
+</I>&gt;<i> used to do, it is now opening Firefox.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I manually launch /usr/bin/www-browser, Opera is correctly launched.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gconf contains the correct configuration:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ gconftool -g /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/opera -newtab %s
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ update-alternatives --display www-browser
+</I>&gt;<i> No alternatives for www-browser.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
+</I>&gt;<i> Opera.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A quick search on the web didn't help much. Not even this one:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1442&amp;p=10477&amp;hilit=thunderbird+firefox#p10477">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1442&amp;p=10477&amp;hilit=thunderbird+firefox#p10477</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> because I found anything indicating which browser to use on
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird's configuration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird reports to be 10.0.3 which matches the package name:
+</I>&gt;<i> mozilla-thunderbird-10.0.3-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone else seen this? Any idea whether it is a bug in Thunderbird
+</I>&gt;<i> or a problem in my configuratioon (which used to work well before the
+</I>&gt;<i> latest update)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.Action to what you want to do
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Somewhere along the line between 3.x and 10.x, Mozilla changed how
+Thunderbird does this stuff. Try this:
+
+Go to Edit/Preferences/Attachments and see if http and https are on the
+list. If they are, change the Action to what you want. But they probably
+aren't there in your case, so don't panic:
+
+Change from Attachments to Advanced, General tab, Config Editor. Search
+for network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http. Both http and https
+should come up. Change both to true. Close the Preferences, then click
+on an http link. A popup should show up, asking what to do. Tell it, and
+be sure to tell it to remember it. This will add it to the Attachments
+list, so you can change it later if you want. Repeat for an https link.
+
+That should do it.
+
+TJ
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+&gt;<i> While I'm at it, beta2 has lost the ability for root to log in graphically. Beta1 was without this on the DVD but upgrades fixed it. Beta2
+</I>does not honor the flag set in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc, where setting AllowRoot to true has for many releases been all that is required to
+allow a graphical root login. (useful for system admin, no I never go out on the web as root!) Intended behaviour or accident?
+&gt;<i> tonyb
+</I>
+Now you have to edit /etc/pam.d/system-auth to allow it IIRC.
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+<PRE>El 08/04/12 15:02, TJ escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> On 04/08/2012 04:24 AM, Alejandro L&#243;pez wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A few days ago I made a normal update on my Mageia 1 system. Since then,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when I click on a link in Thunderbird, instead of opening Opera, as it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used to do, it is now opening Firefox.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If I manually launch /usr/bin/www-browser, Opera is correctly launched.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gconf contains the correct configuration:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ gconftool -g /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/bin/opera -newtab %s
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ update-alternatives --display www-browser
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No alternatives for www-browser.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ xdg-settings get default-web-browser
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Opera.desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A quick search on the web didn't help much. Not even this one:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1442&amp;p=10477&amp;hilit=thunderbird+firefox#p10477">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=1442&amp;p=10477&amp;hilit=thunderbird+firefox#p10477</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because I found anything indicating which browser to use on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird's configuration.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thunderbird reports to be 10.0.3 which matches the package name:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla-thunderbird-10.0.3-1.mga1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has anyone else seen this? Any idea whether it is a bug in Thunderbird
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or a problem in my configuratioon (which used to work well before the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> latest update)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance.Action to what you want to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Somewhere along the line between 3.x and 10.x, Mozilla changed how Thunderbird does this stuff. Try this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Go to Edit/Preferences/Attachments and see if http and https are on the list. If they are, change the Action to what you want. But
+</I>&gt;<i> they probably aren't there in your case, so don't panic:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Change from Attachments to Advanced, General tab, Config Editor. Search for network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http. Both http
+</I>&gt;<i> and https should come up. Change both to true. Close the Preferences, then click on an http link. A popup should show up, asking
+</I>&gt;<i> what to do. Tell it, and be sure to tell it to remember it. This will add it to the Attachments list, so you can change it later if
+</I>&gt;<i> you want. Repeat for an https link.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That should do it.
+</I>
+That did it. Thanks!
+
+Now, what the heck have the links to do with attachments??? The guys from Thunderbird should rethink their configuration...
+
+Alejandro.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> That should do it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That did it. Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, what the heck have the links to do with attachments??? The guys
+</I>&gt;<i> from Thunderbird should rethink their configuration...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Alejandro.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Almost forgot... You might want to do the same with ftp, too.
+
+I don't know why people do the things many of them do. But it gives Life
+some mystery, which isn't altogether a Bad Thing.
+
+TJ
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+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:54:04 -0400, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> But maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in
+</I>&gt;<i> all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard
+</I>&gt;<i> about any sysadmin who did it with a reason.
+</I>
+I always login to kde/gnome/etc., as root, at least once after a new
+install, to configure the fonts and other appearance settings, so
+that when I run &quot;su -&quot;, and then kdiff3 or similar, it uses the font
+size I want.
+
+Rather then trying to login via the dm though, I just use Alt+ctrl+f2,
+then login as root and use &quot;startx -- :1&quot;.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</PRE>
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+ <B>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)">renaud at olgiati-in-paraguay.org
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+<PRE> On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 06:54:04 -0400, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+wrote:
+&gt;<i> But maybe there is a reason to login to a gui as root - although in
+</I>&gt;<i> all my 17 years of Linux I haven't heard one. And I have never heard
+</I>&gt;<i> about any sysadmin who did it with a reason.
+</I>
+I have found that, when a user account has to be terminated and his various
+files distributed between other users' accounts, it is a great simplification
+to run Konqueror as root, with split screen, and select, drag and drop in the
+various targets; doing it by CLI is a pain in the fundament.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Ron.
+--
+ There are few situations that cannot be honourably settled
+ and without loss of time, either by suicide,
+ a bag of gold, or by thrusting a despised antagonist
+ over the edge of a precipice on a dark night.
+ -- Kai Lung
+
+ -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> --
+
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+<LI><A HREF="006918.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<LI><A HREF="006923.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<I>Doug Laidlaw
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+<LI><A HREF="006925.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<LI><A HREF="006933.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
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+<LI><A HREF="006914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome in fully updated Cauldron (Beta2)
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+<I>David Taylor
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+<LI><A HREF="006913.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
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+<LI><A HREF="006911.html">[Mageia-discuss] &quot;Egg-bot robot try to reproduce Mageia logo&quot;
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+<I>Donald Stewart
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+<I>Phil
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+<I>Pierre Jarillon
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+
+<LI><A HREF="006918.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
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+<LI><A HREF="006919.html">[Mageia-discuss] &quot;Egg-bot robot try to reproduce Mageia logo&quot;
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+<LI><A HREF="006921.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<LI><A HREF="006923.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
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+<LI><A HREF="006925.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<LI><A HREF="006924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Backup question
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+<LI><A HREF="006928.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
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+<LI><A HREF="006911.html">[Mageia-discuss] &quot;Egg-bot robot try to reproduce Mageia logo&quot;
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+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="006919.html">[Mageia-discuss] &quot;Egg-bot robot try to reproduce Mageia logo&quot;
+</A><A NAME="6919">&nbsp;</A>
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+<LI><A HREF="006922.html">[Mageia-discuss] Backup question
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+<LI><A HREF="006924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Backup question
+</A><A NAME="6924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006913.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
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+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006915.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006916.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006917.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006918.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006921.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006923.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006925.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006926.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006928.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006931.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006933.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome in fully updated Cauldron (Beta2)
+</A><A NAME="6914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="006920.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="6920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
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+<LI><A HREF="006927.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="6927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
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+<LI><A HREF="006929.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
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+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
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+</A><A NAME="6930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
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+ <i>Sun Apr 8 23:59:21 CEST 2012</i><br>
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+ <h1>8 April 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Apr 8 00:43:09 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Apr 8 23:59:21 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 21<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01333838589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006911.html">[Mageia-discuss] &quot;Egg-bot robot try to reproduce Mageia logo&quot;
+</A><A NAME="6911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333839610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006913.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333841621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006914.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome in fully updated Cauldron (Beta2)
+</A><A NAME="6914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Taylor
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333844853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006915.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333844853-01333863809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006916.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333866341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006922.html">[Mageia-discuss] Backup question
+</A><A NAME="6922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Phil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333866341-01333886598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006924.html">[Mageia-discuss] Backup question
+</A><A NAME="6924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333867251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006917.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes
+</A><A NAME="6917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333872524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006918.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tony Blackwell
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333872524-01333881343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006921.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333872524-01333881343-01333882444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006923.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333872524-01333881343-01333882444-01333885597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006925.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Morgan Leijstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333872524-01333881343-01333882444-01333889165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006926.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333872524-01333881343-01333882444-01333920462- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006931.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333872524-01333881343-01333882444-01333920462-01333922361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006933.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333872524-01333894617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006928.html">[Mageia-discuss] beta2 woes and no graphical root (tonyb)
+</A><A NAME="6928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333873404- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006919.html">[Mageia-discuss] &quot;Egg-bot robot try to reproduce Mageia logo&quot;
+</A><A NAME="6919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Laidlaw
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333873476- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006920.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="6920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333873476-01333890140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006927.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="6927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333873476-01333890140-01333896201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006929.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="6929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Alejandro L&#243;pez
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333873476-01333890140-01333896201-01333907494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="006930.html">[Mageia-discuss] Prefered browser not used by thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="6930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>TJ
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Sun Apr 8 23:59:21 CEST 2012</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Apr 9 00:04:07 CEST 2012</i>
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