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+ <B>WALKER RICHARD</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com
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+ <I>Fri Mar 9 00:18:12 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Right then, I don't think we need to know any more. From here it looks
+like your LAN should be fully functioning. Before we try setting up
+your NFS shares it might be worthwhile to take a few moments clearing
+up a couple of points about networking - things I learned the hard
+way, and now so are you :-).
+
+&gt;<i> I do not think I am able to assign fixed IP addresses.
+</I>
+Well, you can. Don't confuse fixed addresses with static addresses you
+might get from an ISP. If you had chosen manual setup in MCC when
+configuring your ethernet card you could have typed in a fixed address
+of your own choosing. Of course you need to know what you are doing so
+that you can avoid addresses which your router's DHCP could, in
+theory, hand out to some later connected device. Then you would have
+two hosts with the same address and all sorts of lost connection
+issues!
+
+&gt;<i> The computers and router are connected via ethernet cables, within a
+</I>&gt;<i> house so I assume that is considered a &quot;same&quot; network.
+</I>
+In fact it is possible to have multiple networks operating on one
+common set of installed hardware, but this is seldom considered
+necessary in a domestic setting. It is the addresses and network mask
+which &quot;define&quot; separate logical networks within a single physical
+network.
+A quick example; on my 192.168.0.? network I have two PCs and a
+firewall. My router, although wired in to the same network, has an
+address of 192.168.1.1. That address does not exist in my LAN. If I
+want to connect to my router I have to reconfigure a PC to have an
+address in my router's network - 192.168.1.99 would do. It is the 1 in
+the third octet which makes it a separate network. My LAN mask is 255
+for that octet, which says all of the bits in this octet must match
+for two addresses to be considered in the same net. (Same goes for the
+192 and the 168). Only the fourth octet (mask value 0) can be any 8
+bit number.
+
+
+On 08/03/2012, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 07.03.2012 14:04, schrieb Cazacu Bogdan:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wont it be simpler to post the output from ifconfig here? And aventually a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> traceroute output? :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Honestly i've tried to understand what is the problem (i'm [still]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guessing it's dhcp related by the looks of the problem and replies) but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm not sure i got it...
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, that would be rather helpful as a beginning.
+</I>&gt;<i> Unrelated: Top-posting is ugly ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some other notes, from what i read in the thread: most routers
+</I>&gt;<i> also allow for what is often referenced as &quot;static DHCP&quot; which means
+</I>&gt;<i> statically assigning specific IP adresses via DHCP, always to the
+</I>&gt;<i> same machine based on it's MAC adress, which is essentially
+</I>&gt;<i> the same as manually-configured static adresses, but
+</I>&gt;<i> with a lot less hassle and no manual setup required.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also one should not mangle the external IP adress (which is usually
+</I>&gt;<i> assigned by the ISP, under which your router is visible to the internet,
+</I>&gt;<i> and normally can't be changed manually) with your internal adresses.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That other part are the IP adresses which you use on your local network,
+</I>&gt;<i> which you can setup any way you want, and that has nothing to do with
+</I>&gt;<i> your ISP.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another thing: When editing /etc/hosts, i wouldn't remove the loopback
+</I>&gt;<i> entries, but only add additional entries if you really need to.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is also another drawback if you manually assign IP adresses
+</I>&gt;<i> and can be easily avoided by properly configuring/using DHCP.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----Original Message-----
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Florian Hubold
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:54 PM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guys, remotely diagnosing networking problems without having all the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> relevant information, like the exact IP adresses (if they are from any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> private range of either class A, B or C networks, they're not even
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> routable over the internet, so don't need to be anonymized) the exact
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> internal routers adress, netmasks and maybe routing tables will just be a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wild guessing back and forth.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also firewalls should be switched off at both client computers to rule
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those out.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
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