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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006648.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006648.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..54fe4a317 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006648.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router%28Tony%0A%09Blackwell%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F58019B.4060303%40Rock3d.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006649.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell)</H1> + <B>imnotpc</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router%28Tony%0A%09Blackwell%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4F58019B.4060303%40Rock3d.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell)">imnotpc at Rock3d.net + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Mar 8 01:47:23 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006649.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 03/07/2012 02:20 PM, Tony Blackwell wrote: +><i> Another brief contribution, a bit apart from the current sequence. (I +</I>><i> am not a network expert, which may well show in what follows!) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have 2 ethernet ports in each PC, use the router DHCP-assigned +</I>><i> 192.168.x.x addresses for one network of ports which can see the +</I>><i> router, and a separate-wired network on the other set of ethernet +</I>><i> ports using a different numbering scheme which I assign manually, i.e. +</I>><i> hard-coded, to see each other. Also have the printer on this second +</I>><i> network. Keeps it isolated from the net, lets me have full security +</I>><i> on the ports with net connection and relaxed security on the internal +</I>><i> network. The hard-coded addresses on my internal network are all in +</I>><i> /etc/hosts. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> One curious thing I found with pretty much every mandriva and mageia +</I>><i> distribution is that regardless of what I say during initial +</I>><i> installation, I need to fix up etc/hosts which usually has a double +</I>><i> entry for 127.0.0.1 "localdomain.localhost localhost" and another line +</I>><i> of "127.0.0.1 mypc.mynet.au mypc" rather than the hardcoded address I +</I>><i> assigned that 2nd port at installation. Fixing this to the real +</I>><i> address I wanted that second port to have, and re-starting, fixes any +</I>><i> communication problems between each of my PC's +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best of luck, +</I>><i> tonyb +</I> +Since I'm not an expert either, I have refrained from adding my opinion +to this thread. Well until now. I'd like to make a couple points because +I think the common denominator here is dhcp which has it's limits, +particularly when managed by a router. + +@ e-letter - I read your original post and you indicated that you were +having trouble setting up nfs using Mandriva/Mageia, but that you were +able to connect to the internet. Correct? Well if you're using dhcp to +assign IP addresses, of course it's hard to set up nfs. For persistent +connections an nfsv4 client uses an entry in fstab to mount a remote +file system at boot. This requires a fixed server name or fixed server +IP address, neither of which is provided by a default router dhcp setup. +There may be ways to work around this, but why bother? Why not just +assign fixed IPs and be done with it? It only takes a few minutes and +your nfs connections will always survive reboots. + +@ Tony - Same observation. You are adding additional NICs and creating a +parallel fixed IP network when you can set your router to use fixed IPs. +Why? Your boxes are already exposed to the internet though the router so +you aren't gaining the security benefit of a firewall. Is there a reason +you don't just use fixed IPs on the connection you share with your +router? Perhaps you can't configure it? + +Every type of cable/dsl/T1 router I've ever worked on allows the user to +configure the LAN interface to use fixed IPs which would make things a +whole lot easier for both of you. Just a thought. + +@ Tony - I've also noticed that every entry in /etc/hosts is assigned to +127.0.01 no matter what the actual NIC address is. This is different +from every other distro and is probably a bug, but it should still work +ok unless there are firewall rules that require a name to resolve to a +specific IP address. Hmmm... this might be related to a problem I've +been having... + +Best wishes, Jeff +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006649.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6648">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6648">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6648">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6648">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006649.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006649.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..acf78a64a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006649.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BFa0eGKjYwOQUR0TnZE3RVwmR5iU7XgO_%2BqsktxpXrS_Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006648.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006650.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>WALKER RICHARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BFa0eGKjYwOQUR0TnZE3RVwmR5iU7XgO_%2BqsktxpXrS_Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Mar 8 02:03:37 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006648.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006650.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>OK, it is all looking a lot clearer now. Your router can do what you +want, I believe, provided it is on the same network as your 2 PCs. + +It's a private network. I was worried that your PCs may have had +public addresses from your ISP so I didn't want them exposed here +while we figure out what is wrong. We don't need to be quite so +careful now and that should speed things up. + +The only address left to wonder about is the private network address +of the router itself. It has the public address assigned by your ISP +on the WWW side, but its LAN address should be in your network range. +><i>From your mask we know that you have "only" 256 addresses to play with +</I>so the router should have one of those. That means that the first +three octets of the addresses for PC1, PC2 and the router must be the +same; probably 192.168.0 + +If that's the case then you should be able to ping the router and the +other PC, and nmap the network. Let's try that again, this time post +your output as the only addresses will be private anyway. Don't forget +to disable the personal firewalls on the two Mandriva boxes. + +We are expecting nmap -sP 192.168.0.* to report 3 hosts; the two PCs +and the router. If we don't see all three, then as suggested above we +need to look at the routing tables to make sure they are correctly +set. Just enter "route" in a root console on each PC and post that +output too. + +The next step, if we need it, is to double-check the configured +settings in the router. I hope you can access that from your +browser;-) + +On 07/03/2012, Cazacu Bogdan <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cazacu.bogdan at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Wont it be simpler to post the output from ifconfig here? And aventually a +</I>><i> traceroute output? :) +</I>><i> Honestly i've tried to understand what is the problem (i'm [still] guessing +</I>><i> it's dhcp related by the looks of the problem and replies) but i'm not sure +</I>><i> i got it... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -----Original Message----- +</I>><i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Florian Hubold +</I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:54 PM +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Guys, remotely diagnosing networking problems without having all the +</I>><i> relevant information, like the exact IP adresses (if they are from any +</I>><i> private range of either class A, B or C networks, they're not even routable +</I>><i> over the internet, so don't need to be anonymized) the exact internal +</I>><i> routers adress, netmasks and maybe routing tables will just be a wild +</I>><i> guessing back and forth. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also firewalls should be switched off at both client computers to rule those +</I>><i> out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006648.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router(Tony Blackwell) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006650.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6649">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6649">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6649">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6649">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006650.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006650.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..876a8d583 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006650.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6N-p7suiac-%2BeZHBi1e_tuZ0M3_Y_EKy5JQ3n-A5XEVA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006649.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006651.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>e-letter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6N-p7suiac-%2BeZHBi1e_tuZ0M3_Y_EKy5JQ3n-A5XEVA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">inpost at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Mar 8 23:16:28 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006649.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006651.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6650">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6650">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6650">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6650">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 08/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 5 +</I>><i> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:47:23 -0500 +</I>><i> From: imnotpc <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">imnotpc at Rock3d.net</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> @ e-letter - I read your original post and you indicated that you were +</I>><i> having trouble setting up nfs using Mandriva/Mageia, but that you were +</I>><i> able to connect to the internet. Correct? Well if you're using dhcp to +</I>><i> assign IP addresses, of course it's hard to set up nfs. For persistent +</I>><i> connections an nfsv4 client uses an entry in fstab to mount a remote +</I>><i> file system at boot. This requires a fixed server name or fixed server +</I>><i> IP address, neither of which is provided by a default router dhcp setup. +</I>><i> There may be ways to work around this, but why bother? Why not just +</I>><i> assign fixed IPs and be done with it? It only takes a few minutes and +</I>><i> your nfs connections will always survive reboots. +</I>><i> +</I> +Correct, internet connection is always achieved. DHCP is used because +the ISP does not provide fixed IP address; dynamic IP address is +acceptable for my basic internet access needs. I do not think I am +able to assign fixed IP addresses. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006649.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006651.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6650">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6650">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6650">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6650">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006651.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006651.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..63395eb44 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006651.html @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6UQVBNbqR7Lh3OT4N-dqr__BnByQJcQJNdGFUiMjWngQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006650.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006652.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>e-letter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAET1fe6UQVBNbqR7Lh3OT4N-dqr__BnByQJcQJNdGFUiMjWngQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">inpost at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Mar 8 23:34:37 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006650.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006652.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6651">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6651">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6651">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6651">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 08/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +><i> ------------------------------ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Message: 6 +</I>><i> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 01:03:37 +0000 +</I>><i> From: WALKER RICHARD <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK, it is all looking a lot clearer now. Your router can do what you +</I>><i> want, I believe, provided it is on the same network as your 2 PCs. +</I>><i> +</I> +The computers and router are connected via ethernet cables, within a +house so I assume that is considered a "same" network. + +><i> +</I>><i> The only address left to wonder about is the private network address +</I>><i> of the router itself. It has the public address assigned by your ISP +</I>><i> on the WWW side, but its LAN address should be in your network range. +</I>><i> >From your mask we know that you have "only" 256 addresses to play with +</I>><i> so the router should have one of those. That means that the first +</I>><i> three octets of the addresses for PC1, PC2 and the router must be the +</I>><i> same; probably 192.168.0 +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, I use such as address to access the router via a web browser. + +><i> If that's the case then you should be able to ping the router and the +</I>><i> other PC, and nmap the network. Let's try that again, this time post +</I>><i> your output as the only addresses will be private anyway. Don't forget +</I>><i> to disable the personal firewalls on the two Mandriva boxes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We are expecting nmap -sP 192.168.0.* to report 3 hosts; the two PCs +</I>><i> and the router. If we don't see all three, then as suggested above we +</I> +command terminal output: + +nmap -sP 192.168.0.* + +... +Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.1 +Host is up (0.00030s latency). +MAC Address: ... (broadband internet router) +Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.2 +Host is up (0.00016s latency). +MAC Address: ... (computer) +Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.3 +Host is up. +Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 31.54 seconds + +><i> need to look at the routing tables to make sure they are correctly +</I>><i> set. Just enter "route" in a root console on each PC and post that +</I>><i> output too. +</I>><i> +</I>route command terminal output (note: personal firewall not disabled at +the time of writing): + +Kernel IP routing table +Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface +192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 10 0 0 eth1 +link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 10 0 0 eth1 +loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo +default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 10 0 0 eth1 + +><i> The next step, if we need it, is to double-check the configured +</I>><i> settings in the router. I hope you can access that from your +</I>><i> browser;-) +</I>><i> +</I> +yes +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006650.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006652.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6651">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6651">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6651">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6651">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006652.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006652.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c87123332 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006652.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BFA9OEkE0nQXrr4ABvTNuwSFmR7SuGQ-rMaaxyxyfYYLQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006651.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="006653.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>WALKER RICHARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BFA9OEkE0nQXrr4ABvTNuwSFmR7SuGQ-rMaaxyxyfYYLQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Mar 8 23:43:11 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006651.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006653.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>That all looks just perfect. Almost identical to mine, in fact. So +there is no obvious low-level problem preventing you from setting up +your comms between PCs. Back in a tick; putting the kettle on... + +On 08/03/2012, e-letter <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">inpost at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On 08/03/2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> ------------------------------ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Message: 6 +</I>>><i> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 01:03:37 +0000 +</I>>><i> From: WALKER RICHARD <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> OK, it is all looking a lot clearer now. Your router can do what you +</I>>><i> want, I believe, provided it is on the same network as your 2 PCs. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The computers and router are connected via ethernet cables, within a +</I>><i> house so I assume that is considered a "same" network. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The only address left to wonder about is the private network address +</I>>><i> of the router itself. It has the public address assigned by your ISP +</I>>><i> on the WWW side, but its LAN address should be in your network range. +</I>>><i> >From your mask we know that you have "only" 256 addresses to play with +</I>>><i> so the router should have one of those. That means that the first +</I>>><i> three octets of the addresses for PC1, PC2 and the router must be the +</I>>><i> same; probably 192.168.0 +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I use such as address to access the router via a web browser. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If that's the case then you should be able to ping the router and the +</I>>><i> other PC, and nmap the network. Let's try that again, this time post +</I>>><i> your output as the only addresses will be private anyway. Don't forget +</I>>><i> to disable the personal firewalls on the two Mandriva boxes. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We are expecting nmap -sP 192.168.0.* to report 3 hosts; the two PCs +</I>>><i> and the router. If we don't see all three, then as suggested above we +</I>><i> +</I>><i> command terminal output: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> nmap -sP 192.168.0.* +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ... +</I>><i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.1 +</I>><i> Host is up (0.00030s latency). +</I>><i> MAC Address: ... (broadband internet router) +</I>><i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.2 +</I>><i> Host is up (0.00016s latency). +</I>><i> MAC Address: ... (computer) +</I>><i> Nmap scan report for 192.168.0.3 +</I>><i> Host is up. +</I>><i> Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (3 hosts up) scanned in 31.54 seconds +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> need to look at the routing tables to make sure they are correctly +</I>>><i> set. Just enter "route" in a root console on each PC and post that +</I>>><i> output too. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> route command terminal output (note: personal firewall not disabled at +</I>><i> the time of writing): +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Kernel IP routing table +</I>><i> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use +</I>><i> Iface +</I>><i> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 10 0 0 eth1 +</I>><i> link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 10 0 0 eth1 +</I>><i> loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo +</I>><i> default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 10 0 0 eth1 +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> The next step, if we need it, is to double-check the configured +</I>>><i> settings in the router. I hope you can access that from your +</I>>><i> browser;-) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> yes +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006651.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006653.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6652">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6652">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6652">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6652">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006653.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006653.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e30767108 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/006653.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3C4F59386E.2080608%40arcor.de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="006652.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router</H1> + <B>Florian Hubold</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20home%20network%20using%20broadband%20router&In-Reply-To=%3C4F59386E.2080608%40arcor.de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router">doktor5000 at arcor.de + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Mar 8 23:53:34 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006652.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 07.03.2012 14:04, schrieb Cazacu Bogdan: +><i> Wont it be simpler to post the output from ifconfig here? And aventually a traceroute output? :) +</I>><i> Honestly i've tried to understand what is the problem (i'm [still] guessing it's dhcp related by the looks of the problem and replies) but i'm not sure i got it... +</I>Yep, that would be rather helpful as a beginning. +Unrelated: Top-posting is ugly ;) + +Some other notes, from what i read in the thread: most routers +also allow for what is often referenced as "static DHCP" which means +statically assigning specific IP adresses via DHCP, always to the +same machine based on it's MAC adress, which is essentially +the same as manually-configured static adresses, but +with a lot less hassle and no manual setup required. + +Also one should not mangle the external IP adress (which is usually +assigned by the ISP, under which your router is visible to the internet, +and normally can't be changed manually) with your internal adresses. + +That other part are the IP adresses which you use on your local network, +which you can setup any way you want, and that has nothing to do with +your ISP. + +Another thing: When editing /etc/hosts, i wouldn't remove the loopback +entries, but only add additional entries if you really need to. +This is also another drawback if you manually assign IP adresses +and can be easily avoided by properly configuring/using DHCP. +><i> +</I>><i> -----Original Message----- +</I>><i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] On Behalf Of Florian Hubold +</I>><i> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:54 PM +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Guys, remotely diagnosing networking problems without having all the relevant information, like the exact IP adresses (if they are from any private range of either class A, B or C networks, they're not even routable over the internet, so don't need to be anonymized) the exact internal routers adress, netmasks and maybe routing tables will just be a wild guessing back and forth. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also firewalls should be switched off at both client computers to rule those out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006652.html">[Mageia-discuss] home network using broadband router +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6653">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6653">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6653">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6653">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..23a72beae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120308/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 8 March 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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