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But that's not my turf (not any more). +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Not wishing to take any sides in this, I think you have misunderstood +</I>>>><i> what +</I>>>><i> Olav wrote and derived the wrong conclusion from it. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> He wants feedback about something but only from users of the mailing +</I>>><i> list and not from all users. I wonder what I could have misunderstood +</I>>><i> in this sentence. I may understand what he means (something like: +</I>>><i> users of this list are better suited to give usable feedback). But +</I>>><i> unfortunately Mageia users are ALL users so you have to deal with all +</I>>><i> users, calling for feedback from a certain group only (especially if +</I>>><i> it is probably the smaller part) is wrong - that's what I did wrong +</I>>><i> initially with the poll in the forum and that's why I extended the +</I>>><i> call for the poll to the mailing list. I expect developers to have +</I>>><i> this insight as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As I read it, he finds the poll itself too vague to be of much use to him +</I>><i> (personally), and would love to hear on concrete things that can be improved +</I>><i> upon. +</I> +No problem, he is free to start polls he may find more useful and +ignore this one. And certainly I do not deny him his opinion how +usefui or useless this poll is to him. + +><i> Such feedback *can* come from just discussion on this list, not +</I>><i> *should* / *must*. I understood this to mean that we don't have to actively +</I>><i> reach out to *everyone* and that a smaller list of concrete points of +</I>><i> improvement might be a good starting point. +</I> +Yes to the "smaller list of concrete points" - that will be a +different poll then. I chose to start a poll about the more general +picture. Also "Yes" to the selection of a certain group of users if +the topic of the poll only concerns this certain group, like "Should +we switch back to sysvinit or go on with systemd?" (just an example) +because this would be better discussed in a technical interested group +of users. But a definite "No" to leaving out a large part of users in +polls about general matters, which is what I started and what is +discussed here. + +><i> I don't think Olav said or suggested in any way that the opinion of users on +</I>><i> this list is of greater value or importance to him than that of users who +</I>><i> only read and write on the forum. +</I> +If meant as I wrote in the previous paragraph then I agree. But then +it is not relevant for this poll. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006382.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Poll] What are your top requirements? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006384.html">[Mageia-discuss] Can't access floppy drive +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6383">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6383">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6383">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6383">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |