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+<PRE>Op donderdag 19 januari 2012 22:19:12 schreef TJ:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> &gt; oic, so you think it's something that's fixed in nvidia-current, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nvidia- legacy still has this problem?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes. I'm far from being an expert, but it appeared to me that there is a
+</I>&gt;<i> problem with the nvidia 173.14.30 driver Mageia 1 uses for FX cards that
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't in the nvidia-current (225?) driver. I don't know if it exists in
+</I>&gt;<i> the 96xx driver, too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I apologize. I should have looked up the version numbers before my
+</I>&gt;<i> original post.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>
+to me, it sounds like behavior change that was there before, but gotten
+changed likely for efficiency reasons in nvidia, but after KDE started showing
+quite some issues, it gotten removed... these are all upstream bugs, and it
+could be beneficial if you can submit a bugreport to the upstream about it
+(nvidia).
+
+however, i would hope KDE would have fixed their assumption on it, so, maybe
+you could test in the cauldron if possible?
+
+i don't think we ourselves can do much about this...
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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/20/2012 02:17 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 19 januari 2012 22:19:12 schreef TJ:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> oic, so you think it's something that's fixed in nvidia-current, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nvidia- legacy still has this problem?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes. I'm far from being an expert, but it appeared to me that there is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> problem with the nvidia 173.14.30 driver Mageia 1 uses for FX cards that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't in the nvidia-current (225?) driver. I don't know if it exists in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the 96xx driver, too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I apologize. I should have looked up the version numbers before my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> original post.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to me, it sounds like behavior change that was there before, but gotten
+</I>&gt;<i> changed likely for efficiency reasons in nvidia, but after KDE started showing
+</I>&gt;<i> quite some issues, it gotten removed... these are all upstream bugs, and it
+</I>&gt;<i> could be beneficial if you can submit a bugreport to the upstream about it
+</I>&gt;<i> (nvidia).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, i would hope KDE would have fixed their assumption on it, so, maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> you could test in the cauldron if possible?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i don't think we ourselves can do much about this...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The site <A HREF="http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html">http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html</A>
+contains some interesting information.
+
+For one thing, I see that a 173.14.31 driver was released August 17. The
+release highlights say, &quot;Fixed a bug that caused freezes and crashes
+when resizing windows in KDE 4 with desktop effects enabled using X.Org
+X server version 1.10 or later.&quot; An uninformed person like me could
+stretch that description to be possibly related to the problem I see
+with the 173 driver, so perhaps the problem has already been solved.
+
+The site also says that both of my cards are supported by this driver,
+so that clears up one nagging question that I had, namely if the driver
+could be tested without switching back and forth between cards. I only
+have two computers, and disrupting things too much for testing the one
+my brother uses when his problem has been eliminated by other means
+would only serve to annoy my brother.
+
+The computer I use also uses the 6200OC card, the same model in fact
+that now resides within my brother's computer. So, I suppose I could, in
+what there is of my spare time, create another Mageia install (I almost
+think it would be easier for me to use Mageia 1), download the updated
+driver from nvidia, figure out how to install it (I always used the
+proprietary drivers available from the distro before), and try a test.
+
+Or maybe it would be better if I filed a bug report/package request for
+the update and participate in testing along with whoever else might wish
+to do so.
+
+TJ
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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 20 januari 2012 13:26:54 schreef TJ:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> The computer I use also uses the 6200OC card, the same model in fact
+</I>&gt;<i> that now resides within my brother's computer. So, I suppose I could, in
+</I>&gt;<i> what there is of my spare time, create another Mageia install (I almost
+</I>&gt;<i> think it would be easier for me to use Mageia 1), download the updated
+</I>&gt;<i> driver from nvidia, figure out how to install it (I always used the
+</I>&gt;<i> proprietary drivers available from the distro before), and try a test.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe it would be better if I filed a bug report/package request for
+</I>&gt;<i> the update and participate in testing along with whoever else might wish
+</I>&gt;<i> to do so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TJ
+</I>
+well, nvidia has a maintainer iinm, so perhaps your bug could be resolved
+using this update, i'd advise to file a bug and speak with the maintainer about
+it. but you can always test on your own, if you like.
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+<PRE>Am 20.01.2012 13:26, schrieb TJ:
+&gt;<i> On 01/20/2012 02:17 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 19 januari 2012 22:19:12 schreef TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The site <A HREF="http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html">http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html</A> contains
+</I>&gt;<i> some interesting information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For one thing, I see that a 173.14.31 driver was released August 17. The
+</I>&gt;<i> release highlights say, &quot;Fixed a bug that caused freezes and crashes when
+</I>&gt;<i> resizing windows in KDE 4 with desktop effects enabled using X.Org X server
+</I>&gt;<i> version 1.10 or later.&quot; An uninformed person like me could stretch that
+</I>&gt;<i> description to be possibly related to the problem I see with the 173 driver,
+</I>&gt;<i> so perhaps the problem has already been solved.
+</I>Yes, it has been, nvidia driver 173.14.31 has been added ~2 months ago
+(due to an oversight of mine, for cauldron it has been updated ~4 months ago)
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+Just ran into this article:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=MTA0NTU">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=MTA0NTU</A>
+
+Doug
+
+--
+
+Ben Franklin quote:
+
+&quot;Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&quot;
+
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+ <B>TJ</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/20/2012 03:19 PM, Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 20.01.2012 13:26, schrieb TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 01/20/2012 02:17 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 19 januari 2012 22:19:12 schreef TJ:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The site <A HREF="http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html">http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html</A> contains
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some interesting information.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For one thing, I see that a 173.14.31 driver was released August 17. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release highlights say, &quot;Fixed a bug that caused freezes and crashes when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resizing windows in KDE 4 with desktop effects enabled using X.Org X server
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version 1.10 or later.&quot; An uninformed person like me could stretch that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> description to be possibly related to the problem I see with the 173 driver,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so perhaps the problem has already been solved.
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, it has been, nvidia driver 173.14.31 has been added ~2 months ago
+</I>&gt;<i> (due to an oversight of mine, for cauldron it has been updated ~4 months ago)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hmmm. All I see with a search of the Mageia 1 non-free repositories is
+the 173.14.30 driver. Where is the 173.14.31 version?
+
+I had a &quot;testing&quot; install of Mageia 1 on my computer from several months
+ago. I updated everything - 252 packages! - and then told MCC I was
+using an FX card so the 173 driver would be installed. It appears to be
+the 173.14.30 version, which installed without removing the 275
+nvidia-current driver. Then I used MCC to remove what appeared to be
+left of the 275 driver, so it couldn't somehow mask the working of the
+173 driver.
+
+The problem described still shows, but much more briefly - probably
+because this computer is much faster than my brother's.
+
+TJ
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