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+ <H1>[Mageia-discuss] troubles with update ended with totally dead system.</H1>
+ <B>Claire Robinson</B>
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+ <I>Wed Sep 21 11:32:24 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 21/09/11 02:52, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hey folks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do not know if it could be seen as a kind of a contribution...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I installed Mageia 1 almost as soon as it was released for evaluation
+</I>&gt;<i> purposes on Dell Latitude d820. Mine is a multiboot environment with
+</I>&gt;<i> several distros like Ubuntu Lucid, Fedora 15, Arch, SL 6.1, and a couple
+</I>&gt;<i> of others installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I kept playing with it from time to time (my main systems for now are
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu Lucid on laptop, and Debian Squeeze on my workstation). I should
+</I>&gt;<i> say I was quite impressed, especially considering short time Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> exists.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then troubles started. On one of next system updates I had these:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following packages cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kdebase4-runtime-4.6.5-1.1.mga1.i586 (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> - task-kde4-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> - task-kde4-minimal-4.6.5-0.mga1.noarch (due to conflicts with soprano-
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin-virtuoso-2.6.0-0.1.mga1.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> google provided with one link only. It was Mageia forum, not exactly my
+</I>&gt;<i> case but had enough to be considered helpful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 'rpm -e --nodeps soprano-plugin-virtuoso' revealled the plugin was not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed at all. A little weird, update conflicting with a not installed
+</I>&gt;<i> packages, &quot;never mind&quot; I said.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> After run 'urpmi soprano-plugin-virtuoso' and installing the plugin I
+</I>&gt;<i> happily get get rid of almost all the above warnings. But still had this
+</I>&gt;<i> one:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, the following package cannot be selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kipi-plugins-expoblending-1.9.0-3.1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that was quite a progress.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I run 'urpmi kipi-plugins-expoblending' and on the next update attempt I
+</I>&gt;<i> did not get any restricting warnings/errors. So far so good. Finally I
+</I>&gt;<i> could proceed with the update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seemed to complete well: no warnings, no errors. Except one little
+</I>&gt;<i> dirty thing - the system failed to boot after restart. It stuck at GRUB
+</I>&gt;<i> prompt with no errors displayed, just a word &quot;GRUB&quot;. No reaction on any
+</I>&gt;<i> key, not 'e', not 'c', not 'shift' button, not any others. Not even Ctl-
+</I>&gt;<i> Alt-Del. The only way to get out of there was pressing Power Off button.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Booting from SystemRescueCD and reinstalling grub helped nothing. Plain
+</I>&gt;<i> dead system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this was a climax. I get to the Mageia forum, trying to search for a
+</I>&gt;<i> clue and get this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few
+</I>&gt;<i> minutes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And no, folks, I've not reported any bugs. Sorry, far to many... :-( At
+</I>&gt;<i> the end I did not try to anything funny here. Just a regular system
+</I>&gt;<i> update.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is a known bug, it *should* be solved now.
+
+There is a bug report at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2097</A>
+
+It was quite a bad bug as it did break the update but it brought to
+light the now infamous bug 2317 -
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> - which all updates have to
+be checked against.
+
+We have begun linking any required packages into updates media to
+prevent any recurrence of that unfortunate incident. If any do slip
+through the net then the affect you will see is that MageiaUpdate will
+give an error saying a certain package cannot be selected. Please do
+report this if you experience it!
+
+This only affects MageiaUpdate, so you can still perform the update from
+the command line as root (urpmi --auto-update) or by installing the
+updated packages in rpmdrake instead.
+
+Hopefully we are on top of this now though and a permanent solution is
+being worked on behind the scenes.
+
+Sorry if you had a bad experience with this.
+
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