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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004748.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004748.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..246e74044 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004748.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTim%3D-vaOGN_r2dbzMoVmpVuQjnY0UA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004749.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Reinout van Schouwen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3CBANLkTim%3D-vaOGN_r2dbzMoVmpVuQjnY0UA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">reinout at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jun 19 16:10:44 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4748">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4748">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4748">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4748">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi Fred, + +2011/6/15 Fred Obermann <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sinobra at gmail.com</A>>: + +><i> However for development work, where you have literally have dozens of +</I>><i> open windows, and are constantly switching between them in the course +</I>><i> of editing and debugging, Gnome 3 is an awful substitute for Gnome 2.x +</I> +I am a software developer myself. My main tools are the Netbeans IDE, +a terminal and a browser so I might not have as many open windows at +the same time as you do, but I find the window switching workflow in +Gnome 3 actually more efficient than in Gnome 2.x, because 2.x had a +bug where Alt+Tab wouldn't let you focus a window on a different +workspace. Working mostly with the keyboard, the Alt+Tab / Alt+` +shortcuts and the Ctrl+Alt+arrow keys enable me to quickly switch to +whatever window or workspace I want. F12 for a Guake terminal and +Winkey (activities) + incremental search (type the first few letters +of the program you want to launch) complete the picture. + +regards, + +-- +Reinout van Schouwen +<A HREF="http://vanschouwen.info/">http://vanschouwen.info/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4748">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4748">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4748">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4748">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004749.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004749.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f8d1024cd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004749.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106191657550.3157%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004748.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="004750.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106191657550.3157%40zem.cjw.nep%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jun 19 17:03:28 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4749">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4749">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4749">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4749">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: + +><i> I am a software developer myself. My main tools are the Netbeans IDE, +</I>><i> a terminal and a browser so I might not have as many open windows at +</I>><i> the same time as you do, but I find the window switching workflow in +</I>><i> Gnome 3 actually more efficient than in Gnome 2.x, because 2.x had a +</I>><i> bug where Alt+Tab wouldn't let you focus a window on a different +</I>><i> workspace. Working mostly with the keyboard, the Alt+Tab / Alt+` +</I>><i> shortcuts and the Ctrl+Alt+arrow keys enable me to quickly switch to +</I>><i> whatever window or workspace I want. F12 for a Guake terminal and +</I>><i> Winkey (activities) + incremental search (type the first few letters +</I>><i> of the program you want to launch) complete the picture. +</I> +Why don't you switch to the right desktop directly? I use windowmaker +which has the key combos defined by default (alt+1 for workspace 1, etc.), +but I always define the same key combos when I use metacity for some +reason. The next/previous window and next/previous desktop operations are +clumsy. + + + Christiaan +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4749">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4749">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4749">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4749">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004750.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004750.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ade44f942 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/004750.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106191757180.3157%40zem.cjw.nep%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="004749.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1</H1> + <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Gnome3%20on%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.02.1106191757180.3157%40zem.cjw.nep%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1">cjw at daneel.dyndns.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jun 19 18:04:48 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4750">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4750">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4750">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4750">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Fred Obermann wrote: + +><i> My sense is that Gnome 3 is an attempt to provide a desktop for +</I>><i> tablets, and smart phones, or at least a desktop metaphor more in line +</I>><i> with the desktops for those devices. And it may be great for for +</I>><i> most casual users. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> However for development work, where you have literally have dozens of +</I>><i> open windows, and are constantly switching between them in the course +</I>><i> of editing and debugging, Gnome 3 is an awful substitute for Gnome 2.x +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Should the folks at Mageia decide to support Gnome 3, it would really +</I>><i> be good if there was some option during the installation process to +</I>><i> opt for Gnome 2.x for those of us will be looking at Mageia to replace +</I>><i> Mandriva as our software development platform. +</I> +There are two sides to gnome 3: the gnome shell and the regular combo of +gnome panel and metacity. There should not be any reason to keep gnome 2 +because you don't have to run the mode you dislike so much. There may be +bugs or features missing compared to gnome 2, so I hope enough people test +this "fallback mode" (which I currently called "gnome classic" in the gdm +session chooser) before the next release. + + + Christiaan +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#4750">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#4750">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#4750">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#4750">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7ca59b66c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 19 June 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>19 June 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jun 19 16:10:44 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jun 19 18:04:48 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 3<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4748"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4749"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4750"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Jun 19 18:04:48 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Jun 19 18:04:53 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db9e283f4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 19 June 2011 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>19 June 2011 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jun 19 16:10:44 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jun 19 18:04:48 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 3<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="004748.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4748"> </A> +<I>Reinout van Schouwen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004749.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4749"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="004750.html">[Mageia-discuss] Gnome3 on Mageia 1 +</A><A NAME="4750"> </A> +<I>Christiaan Welvaart +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Sun Jun 19 18:04:48 CEST 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Sun Jun 19 18:04:53 CEST 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110619/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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