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+<PRE>Le mardi 9 novembre 2010 05:57:36, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 5 novembre 2010 06:38:14, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As far as the question of application/package view goes, folding entries
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (as in Rpmdrake groups or Nautilus) which expands to multi-line would be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; nice.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That way complex packages like Openoffice or Firefox could be folded
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; into 2 or 3 lines.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (1 for localisation, another possibly for optional modules, another for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; core modules.)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now Firefox is more than 100 packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This sort of suggestion has been made for Rpmdrake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The advantage of this approach is that the minimised view could be the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; default, and at any time it can be expanded to show all packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; without any configuration settings.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not against, however how can we define those groups ? Is there a way to automate it ? Is it necessary to define it manually (and so to maintain it so have maintainers of these groups definitions) ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> First of all, the idea is to continue to use Mandriva-like categories
+</I>&gt;<i> for the packages, as in Rpmdrake. So we associate packages within these
+</I>&gt;<i> larger categories.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The basic idea is to establish a hierarchy of views for multi-package
+</I>&gt;<i> applications.
+</I>&gt;<i> These associations should be designated according to guidelines, which
+</I>&gt;<i> are yet to be established, according to the best judgement of the packager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Otherwise I don't see how we can arrive at consistant and useful
+</I>&gt;<i> associations, especially if being used by different applications, like
+</I>&gt;<i> Rpmdrake and your (very interesting and useful) project. It is
+</I>&gt;<i> important that such applications are able to discern these associations,
+</I>&gt;<i> in order to display them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> First it will be useful to look at the different types of associations :
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) Where usually all of the associated packages would be installed, such
+</I>&gt;<i> as core packages of OpenOffice or Go-oo or LibreOffice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) Where usually only one - or a few - of the associated packages would
+</I>&gt;<i> be installed, such as localisations.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) Something in between, such as optional extensions for Firefox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I read your whole post (had to come back 2 times to manage to finish it ! :)).
+
+Some comments :
+- using a new tag to group packages together may be a solution for packages which have many optional subpackages, however this means we must reach a consensus among packagers. A complete proposal which have been tested on most of the examples you brought in your post could maybe help convincing other packagers. Adding a new tag is not a trivial move and maybe could break some compatibilty with other distributions, so I think it must be &quot;proved&quot; that it is the best solution (if it is).
+- another simple way could be to group by source rpm. It won't always work, but that can be a first step, to experiment with.
+- task meta-packages can be another solution
+- we may have a look at what a package provides and group together packages whose names are close and which provide the same thing (eg. all packages which provide &quot;openoffice.org-l10n&quot; grouped together)
+- it would be interesting to look at other distributions, to see how they solved or tried to solve this problem. How does ubuntu in its package manager for example ?
+
+If you have some free time and motivation, while we're waiting for the build system, you could maybe help us define how to show packages to users in mageia-app-db. If we can define a robust algorithm for package grouping, we'll try to implement it.
+
+Another problem you mentioned is how to define what an &quot;application&quot; is. We could use some help on this subject too :)
+
+You can have a look at this wiki page (on our new Redmine project, thanks to Jehane for setting it up) which is dedicated to this matter : <A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki/Applications</A>
+
+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 3 novembre 2010 23:27:12, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello to everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While things are setting up (infrastructure, teams...), which will allow us all to begin real work on our new linux distribution as soon as possible, a new project is coming to life. We want to produce a website dedicated to mageia's packages, and whose main goals would be :
+</I>&gt;<i> - allow to browse the package database, provide the main informations about packages, like any other distribution does (see <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages">http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages</A> for example).
+</I>&gt;<i> - focus on interaction between users, testers and packagers (backports requests and voting, new soft requests and voting, and the other way round : testing requests from packagers to users)
+</I>&gt;<i> - customizable user notifications on your home page, RSS feed or e-mail (new backport available for you preferred soft, new update candidate available and awaiting testing...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried to explain this project there : <A HREF="http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/MageiaAppDb">http://mageiacauldron.tuxfamily.org/MageiaAppDb</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was announced yesterday during the founders meeting : <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The project is at its very beginning, and the task is huge, so we'll proceed step by step. You can see our temporary roadmap here : <A HREF="http://github.com/agallou/mageia-app-db/wiki/ROADMAP">http://github.com/agallou/mageia-app-db/wiki/ROADMAP</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will probably need help, however this is too soon for me to say exactly on what parts of the project (testing, development, translation, artwork...). I'll send a mail to the mageia-webteam mailing list to discuss this with people who are interested, in the following days (apart from this thread, future discussion on the project will mainly happen on the mageia-webteam mailing list).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Right now, I'm mainly interested in your comments on this project, and also welcome any suggestions about the needs we have to answer (did we forget something ?), and ideas of functionalities. It doesn't mean we'll be able to implement everything, but at this stage I want to envision every possible idea :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde (Stormi)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Mageia-app-db now has a project's home. Marianne (Jehane) set it up and hosts it for us. We use redmine for its wiki and ticket system.
+
+<A HREF="http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki">http://mageia-app-db.tuxette.fr/projects/mageia-app-db/wiki</A>
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+Regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
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+<A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850</A>
+
+Doug
+
+--
+Ben Franklin quote:
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+&quot;Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.&quot;
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+&gt;<i> For Mandriva 2010.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I thought that the Mandriva KDE packager was now a member of Mageia. I
+seem to have lost the thread where I had asked this question. Is he
+here? Sorry for asking this again.
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+Marc
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+&gt;<i> For Mandriva 2010.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The KDE packages are from MIB. I will wait to see if the KDE4.5.3 will
+show on the KDE.org site before I upgrade. The Mandriva KDE4.5.3 package
+mirror structure is up but the mirrors are still empty. You can find
+them hidden here:
+
+<A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.3/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.3/Mandriva/2010.1/</A>
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+Cheers
+
+Marc
+
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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+<PRE>On 16 November 2010 07:19, Marc Par&#233; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">marc at marcpare.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 2010-11-15 20:21, Doug Lytle a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For Mandriva 2010.1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850">http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?t=132850</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Doug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The KDE packages are from MIB. I will wait to see if the KDE4.5.3 will show
+</I>&gt;<i> on the KDE.org site before I upgrade. The Mandriva KDE4.5.3 package mirror
+</I>&gt;<i> structure is up but the mirrors are still empty. You can find them hidden
+</I>&gt;<i> here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.3/Mandriva/2010.1/">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/4.5.3/Mandriva/2010.1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Marc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The packages were mainly built by Balcaen John (aka mikala), he's an
+mdv contributor. IINM MIB offered a mirror for the packages he built;
+also they said they rebuilt some packages to fix some bugs.
+
+Since mikala doesn't have access to ftp.kde.org, neoclust uploaded
+4.5.2 there; but not 4.5.3 (neoclust is probably busy with other
+stuff).
+
+FWIW 4.5.2 was built by mikala too IIRC :). So the packages should be good.
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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+<PRE>Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 07:42:04, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The packages were mainly built by Balcaen John (aka mikala), he's an
+</I>&gt;<i> mdv contributor. IINM MIB offered a mirror for the packages he built;
+</I>&gt;<i> also they said they rebuilt some packages to fix some bugs.
+</I>In fact to be more precise, i'm adding some KDE4.5 branch patchs for bugfix,
+and they simply rsync from my server to provide updates
+From what i know, MIB did not rebuild my package for bugfix for the moment
+maybe they'll do anyway (or some of them to fix specific issues eventually with
+the package they're providing like kderootactions) since i'm also providing
+the src.rpm so anyone can rebuild them with more options/patchs etc etc :)
+
+Regards,
+
+--
+Balcaen John
+IRC:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at irc.freenode.org</A>
+Jabber: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+ <B>Catalin Florin RUSSEN</B>
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+&gt;<i> From: Balcaen John &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">balcaen.john at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: Mageia general discussions &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Sent: Tue, 16 November, 2010 13:21:57
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 07:42:04, Ahmad Samir a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The packages were mainly built by Balcaen John (aka mikala), he's an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mdv contributor. IINM MIB offered a mirror for the packages he built;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also they said they rebuilt some packages to fix some bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact to be more precise, i'm adding some KDE4.5 branch patchs for bugfix,
+</I>&gt;<i> and they simply rsync from my server to provide updates
+</I>&gt;<i> From what i know, MIB did not rebuild my package for bugfix for the moment
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe they'll do anyway (or some of them to fix specific issues eventually
+</I>&gt;<i>with
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the package they're providing like kderootactions) since i'm also providing
+</I>&gt;<i> the src.rpm so anyone can rebuild them with more options/patchs etc etc :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Balcaen John
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at irc.freenode.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jabber: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
+</I>
+Thanks mikala, I've just encountered some Dolphin crashes (and submit an
+automatic KDE bug repport).
+Now with the fixes seems that things works rather nice.
+
+ Best regards,
+Florin Catalin RUSSEN
+Romanian Translation Team
+
+
+
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+<PRE>Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 10:34:11, Catalin Florin RUSSEN a &#233;crit :
+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks mikala, I've just encountered some Dolphin crashes (and submit an
+</I>&gt;<i> automatic KDE bug repport).
+</I>&gt;<i> Now with the fixes seems that things works rather nice.
+</I>Most of thoses dolphin crash in fact seems to to be cause by a bug in libdbus
+1.2.4 triggered by dolphin 4.5.x, so after some local test locally i pushed
+dbus 1.4 (i don't have the knowledge to properly backup it to 1.2.4 :p ) in
+the kde 4.5.3 repository as suggested initially by MIB.
+
+Regards,
+--
+Balcaen John
+IRC: mikala on freenode.org
+XMPP: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 00:09:58 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:23 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003019.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003020.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003021.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003022.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003023.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003024.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:23 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:34 CET 2010</i>
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 00:09:58 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:23 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003019.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003020.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003021.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003022.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003023.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003024.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:23 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:34 CET 2010</i>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 00:09:58 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:23 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01289862598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003017.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01289862756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003018.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db
+</A><A NAME="3018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01289870469- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003019.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01289870469-01289884013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003020.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01289870469-01289884756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003021.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marc Par&#233;
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01289870469-01289884756-01289904124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003022.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01289870469-01289884756-01289904124-01289910117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003023.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01289870469-01289884756-01289904124-01289910117-01289914451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003024.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Catalin Florin RUSSEN
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01289870469-01289884756-01289904124-01289910117-01289914451-01289915663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003025.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE 4.5.3 available
+</A><A NAME="3025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
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+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:23 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Nov 16 14:54:34 CET 2010</i>
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