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Also for Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc.) +</I>><i> Note that for much commercial software, updates are normally delta. +</I>><i> Such updates are often erroneously called patches. +</I>><i> This may be partly a limitation of rpm packages, or more the programs +</I>><i> that install/update such packages. If so, it should be a priority to +</I>><i> correct this lack. +</I> +The problem of delta rpm is the work need to generated alls delta and +the space need on mirrors to host everything. +We must provide delta for each version to the next one: + +- main foo-1 +- upd foo-2 D: 1->2 + foo-3 D: 2->3 and 1->3 ? + foo-4 D: 3->4 and 1->4, 2->4 ? + +etc... +What if delta 1->4 is bigger than the package itself ? and for 2->4 ? + +Delta rpm is hard to manage (any volunteer to write the tools to manage +this ?) and as bonus, I am not sure it is still compatible with our +current rpm... + +><i> However, the idea of update ISOs is good as well. +</I>><i> This could be facilitated by the option of downloading the latest update +</I>><i> for each package of the release not already present in the download +</I>><i> destination (and preferably removing outdated updates). +</I>><i> There is already an option for Rpmdrake to not erase downloaded packages. +</I>><i> (Unfortunately one must manually edit a configuration file to select it, +</I>><i> but that can easily be corrected.) +</I>><i> It also would be useful to have the option to change the download +</I>><i> destination. +</I>><i> With these changes, creating an update ISO would be only a matter of +</I>><i> copying the contents of the update directory to an ISO. +</I>><i> Of course, an utility to directly create an update ISO from the +</I>><i> repository would be useful, but the advantage of the above approach is +</I>><i> that a moderately limited bandwidth user could download updates as +</I>><i> produced (that is over an extended period), and produce complete update +</I>><i> ISOs for others at any time. +</I> +Just think we don't have an infinite space on mirror. Even the sound +good, please try to estimated the cost it can be per release. + +BTW, regarding is download, I am thinking for a long time we must +provide par2 parity files. It can help low bandwidth to end download. +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parchive</A> + +-- + +Olivier Thauvin +CNRS - LATMOS +♖ ♘ ♗ ♕ ♔ ♗ ♘ ♖ +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 197 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101103/92d92de1/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002870.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002873.html">[Mageia-discuss] Introducing mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2871">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2871">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2871">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2871">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |