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+ <B>Ahmad Samir</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 25 07:42:49 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On 25 October 2010 02:19, Wayne Sallee &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer wrote on 10/23/2010 08:52 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 24 octobre 2010 &#195; &#160;02:09 +0200, Tux99 a &#195;&#169;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Come on... the effort of adding a decent description is minimal for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packager, the effort for a normal user of making a patch is much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> higher, this is not a very friendly answer towards the users...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think I demonstrated in the past that constant friendliness toward
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users is not one of my distinctive characteristics.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The patch arguent is invalid, because people can also send mail, like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;here is a better description of package $FOO because I didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> understood the current one and I wanted to help&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So while sending a email and finding the packager email can be hard for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some people, I doubt that sending a email is hard for everybody.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If writing a decent description is easy and almost effortless, and if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sending a email is easy, then what is difficult into doing both ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that it is only logical to contribute by e-mailing the packager
+</I>&gt;<i> about an improvement need in the package, but some packagers don't want you
+</I>&gt;<i> e-mailing them about their package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a community distro, we want to try to make it comfortable and easy for
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone to get involved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Knowing that many packagers are not going to want you e-mailing them about
+</I>&gt;<i> their package, reduces the number of people that will take the time to
+</I>&gt;<i> e-mail them with such contribution. Of course what makes it easier for one,
+</I>&gt;<i> makes it harder for another, so there needs to be balance there. Sometimes
+</I>&gt;<i> our expectations are expecting too much from the other who is working a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> of thankless hours to keep the distro going.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's all about balance and efficiency, and making it easy for people to
+</I>&gt;<i> start contributing, and realizing that some jobs are more time consuming
+</I>&gt;<i> than we might think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Developing systems and protocols help keep things running efficient, and
+</I>&gt;<i> moving forward.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes, using bugzilla is usually better; an advantage of filing a bug
+report over sending a personal email is that the bug gets more
+exposure and any packager who has a bit of free time and can fix it
+(especially if you're talking about just changing the package
+description) will do so; i.e. the whole process becomes faster by
+distributing the workload (especially not-too-invasive package
+changes).
+
+--
+Ahmad Samir
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