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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 6 00:44:06 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 20:42, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-05
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Apprentices have no voice yet and less rights on infrastructure,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provided they are being mentored. It's then up to Masters to decide if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> an Apprentice makes it to Master or not. That's the reality behind the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mentoring process.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In technical things I support two or more levels. There's much to learn for
+</I>&gt;<i> little community packagers as myself as there is in any field for the
+</I>&gt;<i> newcommers.
+</I>&gt;<i> As you describe it, there will be a political division in oldtimers with the
+</I>&gt;<i> power to vote and newcommers without it as well. And this I can't support.
+</I>&gt;<i> This sounds too much like a group of oldtimers hanging on to their power (even
+</I>&gt;<i> if it is not, and I really do believe in you trying to be as democratic as
+</I>&gt;<i> possible).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please don't initiate any kind of caste-system, to be as open as possible we
+</I>&gt;<i> do need a hirarchie as flat as possible.
+</I>
+I understand your fear and maybe words were not the right ones or it
+was not clearly explained enough.
+
+It's not a caste. It's encouraged that team do listen to everyone
+involved with them, no matter who (and people may be involved in
+several teams, indeed).
+
+But in last resort, not only involved, but committed people get a
+decisive voice. In teams, those committed people are those who were
+recognized as such by their peers, through the mentoring process.
+
+Which process is not an exclusive one (keep &quot;bad&quot; newcomers out), but
+an inclusive one (welcome and train them before they get full hands on
+the infrastructure). And that, again, wouldn't prevent non-'masters'
+and 'non-apprentices' to provide/contribute something to the project,
+only should it be reviewed and committed to the project by those team
+members.
+
+Does this answer somehow your point or not?
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
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