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What am I missing? You have +</I>><i> > both mentioned alternatives, some of which I know by name, but in what +</I>><i> > way do apt, yum or smart do this job any better? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, apt is likely to be faster, c++ may be the cause. +</I>><i> +</I> +That makes sudden sense; I had forgotten how slow rpmdrake has become while it +builds and rebuilds its view of the installed packages inventory. I am +guessing this is a "compiled-v-interpreted" thing. No matter how much faster +is the PC I use, rpmdrake always seems to be slower than I would like/expect. +That, of course, is where urpmi is most certainly your friend being many many +times faster to get going - provided I already know the name of what I want +to install. + +><i> Smart is portable across type of repository. It also use a cleaner +</I>><i> design or algorithm, according to his developer. Among nice features, it +</I>><i> can draw graphs of the dependency, feature a command line shell or +</I>><i> parallel downloads ( <A HREF="http://labix.org/smart/features">http://labix.org/smart/features</A> ) +</I>><i> +</I>A dependency graph would be pretty to look at, but it would be even better if +the dependencies were to be colour coded to indicate which are true +dependencies and which are just the packager's whim, and then give you the +opportunity to ignore those which are neither wanted nor needed. +><i> +</I>><i> ...Now, the "install package", "remove package" are basic features that all +</I>><i> of them do. And I think that all packages managers are equal on that +</I>><i> regard. +</I>><i> +</I>That was my feeling about package managers too so thank you for adding weight +to the opinion. +><i> +</I>><i> > I realise that package managers are needed because humans have to add +</I>><i> > some intelligence in the form of what libraries are needed to get a +</I>><i> > program to run. I also know that sometimes humans get this badly wrong +</I>><i> > (try removing a library that you know will never be used and ask yourself +</I>><i> > why rpmdrake wants to remove over 200 packages with it!). Do other +</I>><i> > package managers manage to avoid this embarassing and frustrating +</I>><i> > behaviour? or is it that it is just easier to get it right with package +</I>><i> > types other than rpm? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nope, the problem is not linked to rpm or deb. If a library is needed, +</I>><i> it is needed, that's simple. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A system like emerge or macports ( macports is also in contribs, afaik ) +</I>><i> may however reduce the required dependency, depending on the software. +</I>><i> +</I>I sense a tendency in your response to the same confusion I am suffering from. +On the one hand I find it easy to imagine that the packager is in total +control of what a package regards as a "dependency" but on the other hand I +must accept that your comment on macports may also be true. I do not know yet +how to reconcile these apparent contradictions and I am really hoping I don't +have to become the master of package management on all conceivable platforms +before I can understand enough of this to make sense of it. + +I can fully grasp the concept that the structure of a package (rpm or deb) is +not relevant to the program's requirement for one or more libraries, but I do +not understand by what mechanism "nice to haves" are included as "must +haves". Is it likely to be simply a packager's oversight or perhaps do some +package types not enable the distinction to be made? If the latter, and rpms +are of this type, then is ther a package type which does support the +distinction? + +Richard + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1512">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1512">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1512">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1512">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001513.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001513.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..abef9f812 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001513.html @@ -0,0 +1,158 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C1285713656.3727.502.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001512.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001518.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C1285713656.3727.502.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 00:40:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1513">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1513">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1513">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1513">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 à 23:16 +0100, Richard a écrit : +><i> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 22:21:08 Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> > Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 à 20:20 +0100, Richard a écrit : +</I>><i> > > How much better could it possibly do this? What am I missing? You have +</I>><i> > > both mentioned alternatives, some of which I know by name, but in what +</I>><i> > > way do apt, yum or smart do this job any better? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Well, apt is likely to be faster, c++ may be the cause. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That makes sudden sense; I had forgotten how slow rpmdrake has become while it +</I>><i> builds and rebuilds its view of the installed packages inventory. I am +</I>><i> guessing this is a "compiled-v-interpreted" thing. No matter how much faster +</I>><i> is the PC I use, rpmdrake always seems to be slower than I would like/expect. +</I>><i> That, of course, is where urpmi is most certainly your friend being many many +</I>><i> times faster to get going - provided I already know the name of what I want +</I>><i> to install. +</I> +Well, I think the rise of number packages, and the time needed to create +graphical objects are the reason of the slowdown. Maybe there is also a +regression somewhere. But you cannot really compare apt and rpmdrake, +apt being command line only, there is no graphical interface creation +overhead. + +><i> > Smart is portable across type of repository. It also use a cleaner +</I>><i> > design or algorithm, according to his developer. Among nice features, it +</I>><i> > can draw graphs of the dependency, feature a command line shell or +</I>><i> > parallel downloads ( <A HREF="http://labix.org/smart/features">http://labix.org/smart/features</A> ) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> A dependency graph would be pretty to look at, but it would be even better if +</I>><i> the dependencies were to be colour coded to indicate which are true +</I>><i> dependencies and which are just the packager's whim, and then give you the +</I>><i> opportunity to ignore those which are neither wanted nor needed. +</I> +In rpm, all deps are usually required. You can have Suggests, but +Suggests can be removed without troubles. + + +><i> > > I realise that package managers are needed because humans have to add +</I>><i> > > some intelligence in the form of what libraries are needed to get a +</I>><i> > > program to run. I also know that sometimes humans get this badly wrong +</I>><i> > > (try removing a library that you know will never be used and ask yourself +</I>><i> > > why rpmdrake wants to remove over 200 packages with it!). Do other +</I>><i> > > package managers manage to avoid this embarassing and frustrating +</I>><i> > > behaviour? or is it that it is just easier to get it right with package +</I>><i> > > types other than rpm? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Nope, the problem is not linked to rpm or deb. If a library is needed, +</I>><i> > it is needed, that's simple. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > A system like emerge or macports ( macports is also in contribs, afaik ) +</I>><i> > may however reduce the required dependency, depending on the software. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> I sense a tendency in your response to the same confusion I am suffering from. +</I>><i> On the one hand I find it easy to imagine that the packager is in total +</I>><i> control of what a package regards as a "dependency" but on the other hand I +</I>><i> must accept that your comment on macports may also be true. I do not know yet +</I>><i> how to reconcile these apparent contradictions and I am really hoping I don't +</I>><i> have to become the master of package management on all conceivable platforms +</I>><i> before I can understand enough of this to make sense of it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can fully grasp the concept that the structure of a package (rpm or deb) is +</I>><i> not relevant to the program's requirement for one or more libraries, but I do +</I>><i> not understand by what mechanism "nice to haves" are included as "must +</I>><i> haves". Is it likely to be simply a packager's oversight or perhaps do some +</I>><i> package types not enable the distinction to be made? If the latter, and rpms +</I>><i> are of this type, then is ther a package type which does support the +</I>><i> distinction? +</I> +Macports and emerge are more flexible because they compile packages. + +Ie, some packages are inflexible. They requires strict dependency. +For exemple, mplayer requires glibc, and this cannot be changed. + +Some have compile time option ( --with, --without at ./configure ). + +Mplayer can be compiled without libvorbis support, but you need to +recompile it to enable it if needed later. This is quite annoying for +most users, so usually, the packager have to choose, and in mandriva, we +usually enable this, as most people will prefer features, and those that +have specific requirement are usually able to fix the issue themselves +( or would use another distro like gentoo, we cannot target every +possible use case ) + +And some have runtime options ( ie a plugins system ). Mplayer is not +like that, but totem ( based on gstreamer ) is. Ie, you can install +totem, and it will not automatically pull every gstreamer plugin to read +every file. + +Packager usually try to split plugin in separate rpms, but then you have +to make a choice, ie do we want the plugin to be installed by default or +not ? It is a packager choice usually. + +If you fill there is excessive requirement on a package, feel free to +ask the packager his opinion, or open a bug. But I would recommend that +you first take some time to understand how it work before opening lots +of bugs regarding this . + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1513">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1513">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1513">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1513">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001514.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001514.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ca65015b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001514.html @@ -0,0 +1,124 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290042.21675.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001518.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001520.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Renaud MICHEL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290042.21675.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 00:42:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1514">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1514">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1514">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1514">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 00:16, Richard wrote : +><i> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 22:21:08 Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>><i> > Well, apt is likely to be faster, c++ may be the cause. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That makes sudden sense; I had forgotten how slow rpmdrake has become +</I>><i> while it builds and rebuilds its view of the installed packages +</I>><i> inventory. I am guessing this is a "compiled-v-interpreted" thing. No +</I>><i> matter how much faster is the PC I use, rpmdrake always seems to be +</I>><i> slower than I would like/expect. That, of course, is where urpmi is most +</I>><i> certainly your friend being many many times faster to get going - +</I>><i> provided I already know the name of what I want to install. +</I> +No, if you are talking about rpmdrake, you should compare it to synaptic. +I you want to talk about apt (be it apt-get or aptitude), you should compare +it to urpmi, and urpmi (in my opinion) is not slow. + +><i> > Nope, the problem is not linked to rpm or deb. If a library is needed, +</I>><i> > it is needed, that's simple. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > A system like emerge or macports ( macports is also in contribs, afaik +</I>><i> > ) may however reduce the required dependency, depending on the +</I>><i> > software. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I sense a tendency in your response to the same confusion I am suffering +</I>><i> from. On the one hand I find it easy to imagine that the packager is in +</I>><i> total control of what a package regards as a "dependency" but on the +</I>><i> other hand I must accept that your comment on macports may also be true. +</I>><i> I do not know yet how to reconcile these apparent contradictions and I +</I>><i> am really hoping I don't have to become the master of package management +</I>><i> on all conceivable platforms before I can understand enough of this to +</I>><i> make sense of it. +</I> +emerge and macports are source-based "packet" managers. +As the programs are compiled when you want to install them, you can decide +to exclude some optional, compile-time functionality, and avoid their +dependencies. +In pre-compiled packets (like rpm or deb), the packager decided what should +be compiled, and so what are the required dependencies. +You still have the option to get the source package and tweak it (via the +spec file for rpm, or rule for deb) to exclude some things you don't +require. (but you will need to do it again each time an update is available) + +><i> I can fully grasp the concept that the structure of a package (rpm or +</I>><i> deb) is not relevant to the program's requirement for one or more +</I>><i> libraries, but I do not understand by what mechanism "nice to haves" are +</I>><i> included as "must haves". Is it likely to be simply a packager's +</I>><i> oversight or perhaps do some package types not enable the distinction to +</I>><i> be made? If the latter, and rpms are of this type, then is ther a +</I>><i> package type which does support the distinction? +</I> +Packages have dependencies, those are interpreted as "this package cannot +work without those". +You can also have less strict recommendations, deb has provided for long +recommended packages (not really required, but a must have) and suggested +packages (is an interesting addition, but nothing essential). +Rpm also provide such a mechanism (though I think is younger than deb) with +the suggested packages. +Urpmi take the suggested packages into account, when installing it will by +default selected also the suggested packages, but you can add the --no- +suggests option to avoid this. +On the urpme side, if you uninstall a package that was installed as a +suggestion, it won't trigger the uninstallation of the package that +suggested it. + +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1514">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1514">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1514">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1514">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001515.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001515.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7ca1360a3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001515.html @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290025.48976.morgan%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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They requires strict dependency. +</I>><i> For exemple, mplayer requires glibc, and this cannot be changed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Some have compile time option ( --with, --without at ./configure ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mplayer can be compiled without libvorbis support, but you need to +</I>><i> recompile it to enable it if needed later. This is quite annoying for +</I>><i> most users, so usually, the packager have to choose, and in mandriva, we +</I>><i> usually enable this, as most people will prefer features, and those that +</I>><i> have specific requirement are usually able to fix the issue themselves +</I>><i> ( or would use another distro like gentoo, we cannot target every +</I>><i> possible use case ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And some have runtime options ( ie a plugins system ). Mplayer is not +</I>><i> like that, but totem ( based on gstreamer ) is. Ie, you can install +</I>><i> totem, and it will not automatically pull every gstreamer plugin to read +</I>><i> every file. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Packager usually try to split plugin in separate rpms, but then you have +</I>><i> to make a choice, ie do we want the plugin to be installed by default or +</I>><i> not ? It is a packager choice usually. +</I>><i> +</I>That makes sense of my confusion, thank you. The single most annoying example +of the packager's choice for me in the last few Mandrive releases has been +the dogged insistence of the packager that I must have Pulse Audio installed +or lose the whole of KDE (and presumably Gnome too). To get rid of it +completely I must delete the last few remnants "manually" or I am caught in +the unreal dependency trap. +><i> +</I>><i> If you fill there is excessive requirement on a package, feel free to +</I>><i> ask the packager his opinion, or open a bug. But I would recommend that +</I>><i> you first take some time to understand how it work before opening lots +</I>><i> of bugs regarding this . +</I> +I have been developing "workarounds" as required for the last few releases, +but it has been getting harder to achieve cleanly on 2010.0 and 2010.1 . From +your explanation above I can see that an early decision to prefer only +consumer grade sound systems on the desktop has probably introduced a hard +dependency on Pulse for some key KDE (and Gnome?) component. I would imagine +that removal of Pulse causes the whole house of cards to collapse due to the +indirect dependencies of KDE components on Pulse. + +I wouldn't presume to call this a bug. After all, it is my decision to prefer +a responsive low-latency efficient sound system that I nearly understand over +the experimental and sluggish Pulse add-on layer which only seems to cause me +greater problems. + +You have given me hope that if I can learn enough about how rpms work I might +be able to find the offending KDE package and re-package it for use on my +machines without the "dependency". + +This does raise another question though. If KDE works perfectly well with +Pulse deleted from the system, then how can Pulse be a genuine "dependency"? + +That's a rhetorical question. When I find the faulty package I will contact +the packager and discuss it with him as you suggest. + +Richard +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1518">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1518">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1518">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1518">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001520.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001520.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb398caa6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001520.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290047.30809.richard.j.walker%40ntlworld.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001514.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001524.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Richard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290047.30809.richard.j.walker%40ntlworld.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 01:47:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1520">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1520">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1520">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1520">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tuesday 28 September 2010 23:42:21 Renaud MICHEL wrote: +><i> No, if you are talking about rpmdrake, you should compare it to synaptic. +</I>><i> I you want to talk about apt (be it apt-get or aptitude), you should +</I>><i> compare it to urpmi, and urpmi (in my opinion) is not slow. +</I>><i> +</I>Agreed. Though I am not by any means a command line junkie I will always use +uprmi when I know exactly what I want. + +So it is synaptic/apt and rpmdrake/urpmi. No doubt yum has a GUI counterpart +too. +><i> +</I>><i> emerge and macports are source-based "packet" managers. +</I>><i> As the programs are compiled when you want to install them, you can decide +</I>><i> to exclude some optional, compile-time functionality, and avoid their +</I>><i> dependencies. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In pre-compiled packets (like rpm or deb), the packager decided what should +</I>><i> be compiled, and so what are the required dependencies. +</I>><i> You still have the option to get the source package and tweak it (via the +</I>><i> spec file for rpm, or rule for deb) to exclude some things you don't +</I>><i> require. (but you will need to do it again each time an update is +</I>><i> available) +</I>><i> +</I>Right, I have done this with a custom ffmpeg build. Compile time dependency +control is, of course, a grace and favour benefit provided by the program +author. I get the impression that a packager can introduce depencies when +special support is needed for extra features he may choose to include. This +seems to be what happened with the 2010.1 issue of the foobillard rpm where a +new dependency on Pulse has been created which does not exist in the 2010.0 +package or the author's source. +><i> +</I>><i> Packages have dependencies, those are interpreted as "this package cannot +</I>><i> work without those". +</I>><i> You can also have less strict recommendations, deb has provided for long +</I>><i> recommended packages (not really required, but a must have) and suggested +</I>><i> packages (is an interesting addition, but nothing essential). +</I>><i> Rpm also provide such a mechanism (though I think is younger than deb) with +</I>><i> the suggested packages. +</I>><i> Urpmi take the suggested packages into account, when installing it will by +</I>><i> default selected also the suggested packages, but you can add the --no- +</I>><i> suggests option to avoid this. +</I>Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which "depend" on Pulse and +re-package them such that Pulse is only "recommended"? If so then I will have +to find the way to set the --no-suggests option in rpmdrake. I hadn't even +looked for it before as I have only recently started to discover problems in +Mandriva packages. +><i> On the urpme side, if you uninstall a package that was installed as a +</I>><i> suggestion, it won't trigger the uninstallation of the package that +</I>><i> suggested it. +</I>Something similar seems to apply to packages which I inadvertently "mark" as +manually installed. urpme reports that such packages will be excluded from +orphan detection. I love the --auto-orphans switch. + +Richard + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1520">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1520">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1520">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1520">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001521.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001521.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..436b37cfb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001521.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Modern%20Simplistic%20Logo%20Proposal&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1009281902050.16756%40astro.scholar.athome%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001517.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001522.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal</H1> + <B>Dale Huckeby</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Modern%20Simplistic%20Logo%20Proposal&In-Reply-To=%3Calpine.LMD.2.00.1009281902050.16756%40astro.scholar.athome%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal">spock at evansville.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 02:04:30 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1521">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1521">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1521">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1521">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Rory Albertyn wrote: + +><i> Hi all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We took a fresh modern simplistic look to the idea of a new logo. Items such +</I>><i> as colour and font should have just as much meaning as the logo design +</I>><i> itself. After a short bit of research, I was informed dark red is synonymous +</I>><i> with a Mage(magician) in keeping with the Mageia slogan. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Every aspect of application was taken into consideration, such as logo's +</I>><i> banners, CD labels, t-shirts, business cards, favicons, link buttons, menu +</I>><i> icons and such. These needed to work in multiple resolutions (as stated in +</I>><i> the outlines on the website). Below is two examples of what have come to +</I>><i> mind. Please take time to look and give your opinion. I feel very strong that +</I>><i> such designs be a collaborative work of all involved. A 'one design fits all' +</I>><i> approach. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The colours, font, shape and proportions are not absolute and can be adjusted +</I>><i> accordingly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia2.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia2.jpg</A> +</I> +I prefer something more abstract and evocative of magic or a mage than +a framed "m". Don't really need an "m" or any other letter at all for +the basic logo. Just my two cents. + +Dale Huckeby +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1521">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1521">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1521">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1521">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001522.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001522.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..02eb0d4ae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001522.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Modern%20Simplistic%20Logo%20Proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290107.24216.richard.j.walker%40ntlworld.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001521.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001523.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal</H1> + <B>Richard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Modern%20Simplistic%20Logo%20Proposal&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290107.24216.richard.j.walker%40ntlworld.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 02:07:24 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001523.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1522">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1522">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1522">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1522">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tuesday 28 September 2010 22:06:39 Adrian Marcinkowski wrote: +><i> W dniu 2010-09-28 22:07, Rory Albertyn pisze: +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg">http://www.mageia-za.org/mageia.jpg</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do not like the font you used. It makes is difficult to read the name +</I>><i> (especially the 'e' letter) and since Mageia is a non-English word, we +</I>><i> should make the name visible at the first glance, without any doubts. +</I> +It looks like Magpid at first glance. I don't think it really matters what +language (if any) has Mageia as a word, nor indeed what language any reader +of the word may have as a mother tongue. Clarity is always vital in a trade +name's representation so I would suggest we stick with un-ornamented fonts or +at most a fairly traditional serifed pattern like Roman. + +><i> Personally, I am (as are some other users) against using a decorated 'M' +</I>><i> letter as our logo. We can develop something better, more unique. +</I>><i> +</I>Yes, we have too many Ms in the world; besides, Burger King might get +jealous:-) On the other hand, a stylised M would fit well on a system +desktop button, especially a Menu button. + +Richard +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001523.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1522">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1522">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1522">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1522">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001523.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001523.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e055f6cd6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001523.html @@ -0,0 +1,123 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimwd974TtQaeNyR_57hG9rD7R5xrjUaXHp16d%3DG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001522.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001614.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20who%20knows%20about%20site%20mageia-br%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimwd974TtQaeNyR_57hG9rD7R5xrjUaXHp16d%3DG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br?">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 03:45:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001614.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1523">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1523">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1523">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1523">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 28 September 2010 23:16, Maarten Vanraes <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Op dinsdag 28 september 2010 18:42:21 schreef Ahmad Samir: +</I>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> Go on using gmail like you do; I've been using it with all the +</I>>><i> Mandriva ML's for the past 1-2years (web mail via firefox, I didn't +</I>>><i> use any email clients) and I didn't get any complaints of breaking +</I>>><i> threads when I post/reply to the ML(s). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You see, when sending emails gmail does send the message headers and +</I>>><i> everything properly. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Gmail differs in just how it *groups* the received emails in threads +</I>>><i> (called conversations in the gmail world). The example I gave, about +</I>>><i> the bugs mailing list, is a good one, when the subject line changes +</I>>><i> gmail splits the thread (when you reply to an ML thread you're not +</I>>><i> changing the subject line); an email client would be more thorough and +</I>>><i> see that it's the same thread even though one word changed in the +</I>>><i> subject line (bugzilla adds the keyword to the subject line, e.g. +</I>>><i> NEEDINFO). But that's probably a corner case. +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Not to mention that if you're using gmail and you send an email to a mailing +</I>><i> list, you never know if it was delivered or not, because the mail you send is +</I>><i> the start of the conversation, you never get your own email. If you'd use IMAP +</I>><i> on gmail accounts, you'd see it much clearer, because instead of +</I>><i> conversations, your sent email is in a Sent folder. (which sometimes leads to +</I>><i> double emails on the list) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can understand that webbased emails are the best solution for some people, +</I>><i> but it doesn't have to be gmail; noone is even saying you can't for example +</I>><i> install a squirrelmail or similar on your home-server. (it's an option) +</I>><i> +</I> +Actually I always find the emails I send to any of the ML's, if I am +the one who started a thread, under "Sent Mail" in Gmail. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001614.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1523">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1523">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1523">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1523">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001524.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001524.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..926ca014d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001524.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikaQwW0FhmzNk7p_04GAkefjZyXxW43SsfndTVf%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001520.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001527.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Lirodon</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikaQwW0FhmzNk7p_04GAkefjZyXxW43SsfndTVf%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">superfox436 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 03:46:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001527.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1524">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1524">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1524">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1524">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Doesn't packagekit provide Gnome and KDE-native interfaces for package +management? + +Shawn + +On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Richard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> On Tuesday 28 September 2010 23:42:21 Renaud MICHEL wrote: +</I>><i> > No, if you are talking about rpmdrake, you should compare it to synaptic. +</I>><i> > I you want to talk about apt (be it apt-get or aptitude), you should +</I>><i> > compare it to urpmi, and urpmi (in my opinion) is not slow. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Agreed. Though I am not by any means a command line junkie I will always +</I>><i> use +</I>><i> uprmi when I know exactly what I want. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So it is synaptic/apt and rpmdrake/urpmi. No doubt yum has a GUI +</I>><i> counterpart +</I>><i> too. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > emerge and macports are source-based "packet" managers. +</I>><i> > As the programs are compiled when you want to install them, you can +</I>><i> decide +</I>><i> > to exclude some optional, compile-time functionality, and avoid their +</I>><i> > dependencies. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > In pre-compiled packets (like rpm or deb), the packager decided what +</I>><i> should +</I>><i> > be compiled, and so what are the required dependencies. +</I>><i> > You still have the option to get the source package and tweak it (via the +</I>><i> > spec file for rpm, or rule for deb) to exclude some things you don't +</I>><i> > require. (but you will need to do it again each time an update is +</I>><i> > available) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> Right, I have done this with a custom ffmpeg build. Compile time dependency +</I>><i> control is, of course, a grace and favour benefit provided by the program +</I>><i> author. I get the impression that a packager can introduce depencies when +</I>><i> special support is needed for extra features he may choose to include. This +</I>><i> seems to be what happened with the 2010.1 issue of the foobillard rpm where +</I>><i> a +</I>><i> new dependency on Pulse has been created which does not exist in the 2010.0 +</I>><i> package or the author's source. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Packages have dependencies, those are interpreted as "this package cannot +</I>><i> > work without those". +</I>><i> > You can also have less strict recommendations, deb has provided for long +</I>><i> > recommended packages (not really required, but a must have) and suggested +</I>><i> > packages (is an interesting addition, but nothing essential). +</I>><i> > Rpm also provide such a mechanism (though I think is younger than deb) +</I>><i> with +</I>><i> > the suggested packages. +</I>><i> > Urpmi take the suggested packages into account, when installing it will +</I>><i> by +</I>><i> > default selected also the suggested packages, but you can add the --no- +</I>><i> > suggests option to avoid this. +</I>><i> Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which "depend" on Pulse and +</I>><i> re-package them such that Pulse is only "recommended"? If so then I will +</I>><i> have +</I>><i> to find the way to set the --no-suggests option in rpmdrake. I hadn't even +</I>><i> looked for it before as I have only recently started to discover problems +</I>><i> in +</I>><i> Mandriva packages. +</I>><i> > On the urpme side, if you uninstall a package that was installed as a +</I>><i> > suggestion, it won't trigger the uninstallation of the package that +</I>><i> > suggested it. +</I>><i> Something similar seems to apply to packages which I inadvertently "mark" +</I>><i> as +</I>><i> manually installed. urpme reports that such packages will be excluded from +</I>><i> orphan detection. 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This should +break OpenOffice free from the shackles of Sun/Oracle, hopefully +leading to a faster and more inclusive development cycle." + +The press release: +<A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/tdf_release.html">http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/tdf_release.html</A> + +The document foundation: +<A HREF="http://www.documentfoundation.org/">http://www.documentfoundation.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1526">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1526">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1526">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1526">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001527.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001527.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e04d58b70 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001527.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vjrwu5a1ct0cxl%40kira-notebook.iis.sinica.edu.tw%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001524.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001544.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Kira</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vjrwu5a1ct0cxl%40kira-notebook.iis.sinica.edu.tw%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 04:50:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1527">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1527">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1527">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1527">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>在 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:46:34 +0800, Lirodon <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>>寫道: + +><i> Doesn't packagekit provide Gnome and KDE-native interfaces for package +</I>><i> management? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Shawn +</I>><i> +</I>I don't check the process of packagekit, but isn't the urpmi backend of + +packagekit was immature? If so, then there's no big need of it if we are + +going to stick with urpmi . +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1527">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1527">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1527">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1527">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001528.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001528.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..50c76ced9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001528.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C43733.14683.qm%40web28612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001526.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001530.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>Henri de Solages</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C43733.14683.qm%40web28612.mail.ukl.yahoo.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">mongolie2006-com at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 05:53:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Openoffice forked into LibreOffice +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1528">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1528">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1528">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1528">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello. + +I've been using Mandrake and Mandriva for about 8 years, and I used to pay for it. I stopped paying because of the poor quality of Mandriva Store service. +Now I have a small web creation business: Fiable.biz . +<A HREF="http://Fiable.biz">http://Fiable.biz</A> +We still use Mandriva 2009 spring in 2 computers, but shifted this year to Ubuntu for 2 others. + +My concern is: will Mageia meet the needs of small businesses? + +1) Small businesses are not very interested by the famous "pro-choice" policy of Mandriva. I would prefer a system that JUST WORKS rather than the choice between several buggy solutions (KDE/Gnome, Kmail/Thunderbird etc.). And I just don't think a small company or a small community can maintain so many different competitive solutions. Making choice requires a strong management, because any choice will make some users unhappy. But my experience is that any computer system, because of its legacy, becomes heavier and heavier, and is one day replaced by a simpler, completely new one, with no legacy. I've just given up Firefox for Chromium for that. The weakest is the management, the quickest the system become unmanageable. + +2) Small businesses need a paid, affordable, reliable SUPPORT. Forums are helpful, but quite often one doesn't find the needed answer that way. The payment should of course be possible by MasterCard or Visa card. + +3) Small businesses need an efficient way to FIND INFORMATION QUICKLY. Fragmented information systems like official web pages + mailing list + wiki + forums + bugzilla + support pages, some of these in different languages, make information very difficult to find. Although English is the mother tongue of nobody at Fiable.biz, I would prefer no mailing list, no forum, no support system, but an English wiki with discussion in the wiki's discussion pages, rather than in forums, an English bugzilla for bugs and enhancement wishes, and possibly wikis in other languages with systematic links to the corresponding English page. + +4) Some small businesses, like Fiable.biz, would be very interested in MULTISEAT (several seats on one central unit), because it's cheaper than buying one computer per employee. Unfortunately, this is not provided in an easy way by any distribution, as far as I know. If you know a distribution provided this, please let me know. + +I suggest you make your plans a bit more precise and wish you good luck. + + + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Openoffice forked into LibreOffice +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1528">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1528">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1528">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1528">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001529.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001529.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cce3b5c49 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001529.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290823.28767.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001619.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001531.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Renaud MICHEL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290823.28767.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 08:23:28 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1529">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1529">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1529">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1529">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 01:47, Richard wrote : +><i> Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which "depend" on Pulse +</I>><i> and re-package them such that Pulse is only "recommended"? +</I> +Here (2010.1 x86_64) KDE does not have a dependency on pulse audio. +Gnome has, because pulseaudio (actually the package is pulseaudio-esound- +compat) provides esound, which is required by gnome. + +Anyway, you can simply disable pulseaudio from the control center, so it is +not a problem to have the package still lying around. + +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1529">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1529">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1529">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1529">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001530.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001530.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..94daad325 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001530.html @@ -0,0 +1,99 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290948.36173.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001528.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001540.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>P. Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009290948.36173.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 08:48:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1530">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1530">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1530">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1530">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Henri de Solages wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> 1) Small businesses ... I would prefer a system that JUST WORKS ... +</I> +I second to the whole content of that email. +The requirements of a SME may be down-to-earth, not fancy or technologically +extreme (as in, no 3D effects, no "smart" workspaces etc.), but can be the +guide for a solid distribution. +And they will bring in some money, too. (necessary for a distro to survive) + + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1530">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1530">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1530">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1530">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001531.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001531.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..12ac5eb04 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001531.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikugm8e2pRc2RjmejXEW9rhCFvf%3DFcSyBS3-wOf%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001529.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001610.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Mihai Dobrescu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikugm8e2pRc2RjmejXEW9rhCFvf%3DFcSyBS3-wOf%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">msdobrescu at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 09:33:59 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Lately I've become more and more impatient. But I think it is fast enough to +have RPMDrake refreshing its lists in less than a minute on a Atom based +machine. +For me, RPMDrake is enough. +What I disliked in time, using Mandriva only, is that when I install some +app, I got a message saying "if you want this app, you must uninstall these +libs (and their using apps)". I mean, sometimes, I must chose one app or +another, I can't have both because I can't have two versions of the same lib +or I must chose a specific implementation of a concept in a lib (when there +are many implementations of the same thing). This is what I would change, +and it is not related to package management applications. I guess it is the +OS or distro philosophy. + +I love revolutions, major changes and drastic re-coding if needed only. Not +when it is just a matter of fashion, like, let's say, I get a new car just +because this year curvy designs come into the light. No matter if the +quality is less sometimes. + +So, IMHO, actual packaging is OK, the management of it could be improved +maybe. + +I would love to see, when install mplayer, for instance, a list of plugins +available, to check some I need and to install them. But that's often +related to the architecture of the main application. + +Sometimes, having too much choices like in Linux world, is an issue for +choosing the right tool. Why not polish some tools with clear usage targets +together instead of creating again and again things with 60% of +functionalities overlapping, longing for some other 20% of functionalities +to implement in one tool from the other tool? +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/64dbb91c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001532.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001532.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e59d1ba95 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001532.html @@ -0,0 +1,119 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimH2%3DA%2BSm7s3o0bV9MQVDLFKtW1p2Z3ttKcTOyy%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001543.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001536.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimH2%3DA%2BSm7s3o0bV9MQVDLFKtW1p2Z3ttKcTOyy%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 09:42:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? 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And I think that all packages managers are equal on that +</I>><i> regard. +</I> +hmm. i know that some time ago (when smart was already in the making): +- yum had a basic dependency solving algorithm, not taking some + things into account due to some lack of meta-information +- urpmi was quite correct at dependency solving, albeit a bit hackish +- smart was having real graph traversal algorithms, making it the + cleanest + +(i don't have more information than that, it was what i heard from +urpmi's developer at the time) + +now - yum is working good enough, and is still under development. urpmi +is working more than well enough, and i'm waiting for it to be at fault +given some properly packaged rpms. smart is... well, unmaintained. + +jérôme +-- +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001557.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1533">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1533">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1533">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1533">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001534.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001534.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..447b13eeb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001534.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimNpzOBK6_XUiq_zQWAoLj%2BUnhtzCtoNdDBNpK7%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001516.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001586.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimNpzOBK6_XUiq_zQWAoLj%2BUnhtzCtoNdDBNpK7%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 09:55:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001516.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1534">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1534">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1534">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1534">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 00:25 +0200, Morgan Leijström a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> How compatible is rpm5 to build system and installers? +</I>>><i> Is it possible to begin the move gradually or must it be changed in one big +</I>>><i> step? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Packages would not reqired change. +</I>><i> However, it would requires change on tools. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, I think a big step is required, AFAIK. +</I>Not really, I've been porting more or less most tools of the +distribution to rpm5 already. +rpm5 also carries with it the much cleaned up rewrite of Nanar's perl +bindings with it upstream, where the rpm4 bindings are left pretty +much unmaintained and not used by others, making it necessary to port +them to rpm.org's new API for every new series (they're currently +ported to and fully working with 4.6 only)... + +For demonstration of rpm5 on Mandriva, Unity Linux provides an +excellent example of a distribution providing just this already. :) + +As you seem to lack a rpm maintainer, I'd suggest for you to welcome +Jeff's interest: +16:54:50 < jbj> Nanar: ping. how many distros do you mirror? btw, sign +me up for the MDV fork, just poke w a URI to packages whenever ... + +(being actively involved with rpm5 upstream and already helping out +maintaining it in Unity also, I'd be happy to provide you with any +assistence needed if going with rpm5 as well. :) + + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001516.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1534">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1534">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1534">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1534">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001535.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001535.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..214b9f704 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001535.html @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin4Zs%2BUetpOUkkgaR-FRWOBa_WD6KSWrHL72be6%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001533.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001538.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin4Zs%2BUetpOUkkgaR-FRWOBa_WD6KSWrHL72be6%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 09:57:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1535">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1535">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1535">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1535">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Jerome Quelin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> On 10/09/28 23:21 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: +</I>>><i> Now, the "install package", "remove package" are basic features that all +</I>>><i> of them do. And I think that all packages managers are equal on that +</I>>><i> regard. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> hmm. i know that some time ago (when smart was already in the making): +</I>><i> - yum had a basic dependency solving algorithm, not taking some +</I>><i>  things into account due to some lack of meta-information +</I>><i> - urpmi was quite correct at dependency solving, albeit a bit hackish +</I>><i> - smart was having real graph traversal algorithms, making it the +</I>><i>  cleanest +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (i don't have more information than that, it was what i heard from +</I>><i> urpmi's developer at the time) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> now - yum is working good enough, and is still under development. urpmi +</I>><i> is working more than well enough, and i'm waiting for it to be at fault +</I>><i> given some properly packaged rpms. smart is... well, unmaintained. +</I>wrong, it's certainly not unmaintained and it's probably the most +viable alternative in the long run wrt. maintenance. :) + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1535">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1535">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1535">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1535">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001536.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001536.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0f49ec5ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001536.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDNHzbFEwhW1JSuA%2BHcm7xYRM_n9T%3Dx3-5a8QG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001532.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001556.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimDNHzbFEwhW1JSuA%2BHcm7xYRM_n9T%3Dx3-5a8QG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 10:24:33 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1536">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1536">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1536">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1536">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Per Øyvind Karlsen <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">peroyvind at mandriva.org</A>>: +><i> Michael has already corrected you on this, Mandriva most certainly +</I>><i> didn't want to see Niemeyer leaving.. :/ +</I> +This is at least debatable. +When Mandriva acquired Conectiva it was said that smart will be +supported and promoted on equal terms as urpmi/rpmdrake. That's what +Gaël Duval wrote in an interview right after the acquisition when he +still talked as representative of the company. + +This turned out to be not the case. Smart was neglected by Mandriva +documentation and promotion, All Mandriva was talking about was +urpmi/rpmdrake - so Niemeyer left because he "did not see any future +with Mandriva and is looking for new challenges" (as he was cited when +he left). +No, Mandriva did not fire him but IMHO and according to my +informations they did everything to make him go. + +Of course this does not help with the topic of this thread, just to +correct this bit of information. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1536">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1536">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1536">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1536">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001537.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001537.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..15473001f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001537.html @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291109.27228.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001550.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001543.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>Marcello Anni</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291109.27228.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">marcello.anni at alice.it + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:09:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1537">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1537">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1537">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1537">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Hello. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've been using Mandrake and Mandriva for about 8 years, and I used to pay +</I>><i> for it. I stopped paying because of the poor quality of Mandriva Store +</I>><i> service. Now I have a small web creation business: Fiable.biz . +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://Fiable.biz">http://Fiable.biz</A> +</I>><i> We still use Mandriva 2009 spring in 2 computers, but shifted this year to +</I>><i> Ubuntu for 2 others. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My concern is: will Mageia meet the needs of small businesses? +</I> +i think it is too early to have already a specific business plan and +development strategies. Now the mageia guys are working hard to make available +the whole structure and basic web-service, then we can discuss about +strategy,business model, etc... + +><i> 1) Small businesses are not very interested by the famous "pro-choice" +</I>><i> policy of Mandriva. I would prefer a system that JUST WORKS rather than +</I>><i> the choice between several buggy solutions (KDE/Gnome, Kmail/Thunderbird +</I>><i> etc.). And I just don't think a small company or a small community can +</I>><i> maintain so many different competitive solutions. Making choice requires a +</I>><i> strong management, because any choice will make some users unhappy. But my +</I>><i> experience is that any computer system, because of its legacy, becomes +</I>><i> heavier and heavier, and is one day replaced by a simpler, completely new +</I>><i> one, with no legacy. I've just given up Firefox for Chromium for that. The +</I>><i> weakest is the management, the quickest the system become unmanageable. +</I> +a distro community driven can't choose what their contributors must do, +anyway thing like this: if the contributor (that uses E17) can't contribute to +it, it won't contribute to KDE4, but probably he will simply change distro, so +no manpower is wasted. + +><i> 2) Small businesses need a paid, affordable, reliable SUPPORT. Forums are +</I>><i> helpful, but quite often one doesn't find the needed answer that way. The +</I>><i> payment should of course be possible by MasterCard or Visa card. +</I> +sure. if we plan to sell specific payment versions of mageia, we need a support +service (always available and efficient), we can't rely only on forums. + +><i> 3) Small businesses need an efficient way to FIND INFORMATION QUICKLY. +</I>><i> Fragmented information systems like official web pages + mailing list + +</I>><i> wiki + forums + bugzilla + support pages, some of these in different +</I>><i> languages, make information very difficult to find. Although English is +</I>><i> the mother tongue of nobody at Fiable.biz, I would prefer no mailing list, +</I>><i> no forum, no support system, but an English wiki with discussion in the +</I>><i> wiki's discussion pages, rather than in forums, an English bugzilla for +</I>><i> bugs and enhancement wishes, and possibly wikis in other languages with +</I>><i> systematic links to the corresponding English page. +</I> +i think the basic informations could all be found in the wiki (+web-site with +description of the distro and informations to download), bugzilla, ML and +others are for contributors +><i> +</I>><i> 4) Some small businesses, like Fiable.biz, would be very interested in +</I>><i> MULTISEAT (several seats on one central unit), because it's cheaper than +</I>><i> buying one computer per employee. Unfortunately, this is not provided in +</I>><i> an easy way by any distribution, as far as I know. If you know a +</I>><i> distribution provided this, please let me know. +</I> +this could be an idea. keep it on mind : ) + +><i> I suggest you make your plans a bit more precise and wish you good luck. +</I> +these days we should have a manifesto, then we'll try to resolve all the +others big and minor issues... + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1537">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1537">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1537">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1537">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001538.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001538.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e3ae94c95 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001538.html @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291113.43226.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001535.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001539.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Marcello Anni</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291113.43226.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">marcello.anni at alice.it + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:13:42 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001539.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1538">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1538">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1538">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1538">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>hi all, +i'm sorry for the subject of this e-mail but i would like it won't be ignored. +i think we need soon an artwork-related mailing list as this general ML is +being cluttered of proposals and e-mails not related at all with the aim of +this ML. can someone take in charge this task (or advice who can make it)? i +think also that we should make a poll to choose the logo and the pay-off. + + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001539.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1538">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1538">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1538">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1538">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001539.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001539.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5cbf3bc61 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001539.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CBLU0-SMTP156425108CF1D1EF5096C17EA670%40phx.gbl%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001538.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001541.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Matthieu P</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CBLU0-SMTP156425108CF1D1EF5096C17EA670%40phx.gbl%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">matt.paret at hotmail.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:31:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1539">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1539">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1539">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1539">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> Le 29/09/2010 11:13, Marcello Anni a écrit : +><i> hi all, +</I>><i> i'm sorry for the subject of this e-mail but i would like it won't be ignored. +</I>><i> i think we need soon an artwork-related mailing list as this general ML is +</I>><i> being cluttered of proposals and e-mails not related at all with the aim of +</I>><i> this ML. can someone take in charge this task (or advice who can make it)? i +</I>><i> think also that we should make a poll to choose the logo and the pay-off. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> cheers, +</I>><i> Marcello +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>+1 We need an mailing list about design and graphics. + + +Matthieu + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/80fd2fb2/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1539">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1539">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1539">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1539">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001540.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001540.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9af416e8f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001540.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? 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Christeas a écrit : +><i> On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Henri de Solages wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1) Small businesses ... I would prefer a system that JUST WORKS ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I second to the whole content of that email. +</I> +Well, nobody want a system that do not work. + + +><i> The requirements of a SME may be down-to-earth, not fancy or technologically +</I>><i> extreme (as in, no 3D effects, no "smart" workspaces etc.), but can be the +</I>><i> guide for a solid distribution. +</I>><i> And they will bring in some money, too. (necessary for a distro to survive) +</I> +I doubt many SME will give money to a association, and my point of view +is that it is better to devote time than give money, as money tend to +change people mind ( "i give money so do what I say", or the issue +hilighted by Stormi Peters here +<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyaM7VWqOg">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzyaM7VWqOg</A> ) + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1540">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1540">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1540">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1540">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001541.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001541.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..89315adc1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001541.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA308BE.5030803%40tuxette.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001539.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001545.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Lombard Marianne</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA308BE.5030803%40tuxette.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">marianne at tuxette.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:37:02 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001539.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001545.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1541">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1541">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1541">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1541">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 11:31, Matthieu P a écrit : +><i> Le 29/09/2010 11:13, Marcello Anni a écrit : +</I>>><i> hi all, +</I>>><i> i'm sorry for the subject of this e-mail but i would like it won't be ignored. +</I>>><i> i think we need soon an artwork-related mailing list as this general ML is +</I>>><i> being cluttered of proposals and e-mails not related at all with the aim of +</I>>><i> this ML. can someone take in charge this task (or advice who can make it)? i +</I>>><i> think also that we should make a poll to choose the logo and the pay-off. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> cheers, +</I>>><i> Marcello +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +1 We need an mailing list about design and graphics. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Matthieu +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Hi, + +There is a flick group to upload the logo proposition : +<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/">http://www.flickr.com/groups/mageia-art/</A> + +Regards + +Marianne + +-- +Marianne (Jehane) Lombard +Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a +lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001539.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001545.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1541">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1541">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1541">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1541">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001542.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001542.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..da9e56031 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001542.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Question%20about%20the%20fork.&In-Reply-To=%3C1285753244.3727.748.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001525.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001526.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork.</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Question%20about%20the%20fork.&In-Reply-To=%3C1285753244.3727.748.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork.">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:40:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Openoffice forked into LibreOffice +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1542">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1542">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1542">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1542">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mardi 28 septembre 2010 à 22:05 -0400, Ireneusz Gierlach a écrit : +><i> I have joined the mailing list a little late, so I'm not sure if this +</I>><i> was asked. +</I>><i> At what point will it/is it forked? I mean like from which version of +</I>><i> Mandriva or Cooker etc. +</I>><i> Anyone knows? +</I> +There is a backup of svn, so I think it will be cooker, unless big +problem occurs. This point was not discutted and we are busy setting +buildsystem and server at the moment. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Openoffice forked into LibreOffice +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1542">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1542">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1542">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1542">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001543.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001543.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d8cb6fa50 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001543.html @@ -0,0 +1,161 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100929104344.62c2c1d0%40otfordduckscomputers.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001537.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001532.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>Margot</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C20100929104344.62c2c1d0%40otfordduckscomputers.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">margot at otfordduckscomputers.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:43:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1543">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1543">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1543">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1543">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) +Henri de Solages <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mongolie2006-com at yahoo.fr</A>> wrote: + +><i> Hello. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I've been using Mandrake and Mandriva for about 8 years, and I +</I>><i> used to pay for it. I stopped paying because of the poor quality +</I>><i> of Mandriva Store service. Now I have a small web creation +</I>><i> business: Fiable.biz . <A HREF="http://Fiable.biz">http://Fiable.biz</A> We still use Mandriva +</I>><i> 2009 spring in 2 computers, but shifted this year to Ubuntu for 2 +</I>><i> others. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My concern is: will Mageia meet the needs of small businesses? +</I>><i> +</I> +Define 'small business'! I am a small business - very small, just +me. In fact, I am two small businesses - freelance IT Consultant, +and also a Sales Leader with Avon. In the USA, a 'small business' +can have up to 750 employees, depending on which state it is based +in and the type of business. A business with 750 employees will +have very different needs from a one-person business. + +><i> 1) Small businesses are not very interested by the famous +</I>><i> "pro-choice" policy of Mandriva. I would prefer a system that +</I>><i> JUST WORKS rather than the choice between several buggy solutions +</I>><i> (KDE/Gnome, Kmail/Thunderbird etc.). And I just don't think a +</I>><i> small company or a small community can maintain so many different +</I>><i> competitive solutions. Making choice requires a strong +</I>><i> management, because any choice will make some users unhappy. But +</I>><i> my experience is that any computer system, because of its legacy, +</I>><i> becomes heavier and heavier, and is one day replaced by a +</I>><i> simpler, completely new one, with no legacy. I've just given up +</I>><i> Firefox for Chromium for that. The weakest is the management, the +</I>><i> quickest the system become unmanageable. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) Small businesses need a paid, affordable, reliable SUPPORT. +</I>><i> Forums are helpful, but quite often one doesn't find the needed +</I>><i> answer that way. The payment should of course be possible by +</I>><i> MasterCard or Visa card. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3) Small businesses need an efficient way to FIND INFORMATION +</I>><i> QUICKLY. Fragmented information systems like official web pages + +</I>><i> mailing list + wiki + forums + bugzilla + support pages, some of +</I>><i> these in different languages, make information very difficult to +</I>><i> find. Although English is the mother tongue of nobody at +</I>><i> Fiable.biz, I would prefer no mailing list, no forum, no support +</I>><i> system, but an English wiki with discussion in the wiki's +</I>><i> discussion pages, rather than in forums, an English bugzilla for +</I>><i> bugs and enhancement wishes, and possibly wikis in other +</I>><i> languages with systematic links to the corresponding English page. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 4) Some small businesses, like Fiable.biz, would be very +</I>><i> interested in MULTISEAT (several seats on one central unit), +</I>><i> because it's cheaper than buying one computer per employee. +</I>><i> Unfortunately, this is not provided in an easy way by any +</I>><i> distribution, as far as I know. If you know a distribution +</I>><i> provided this, please let me know. +</I>><i> +</I> +You are talking about the needs of your own small business. +Other small businesses (from 1 to 750 staff) will have quite +different needs. It is very unlikely that Mageia will satisfy +the needs of ALL types of small business. It is also very +unlikely that Mageia will suit the needs of all individuals, +or of all LARGE businesses. However, if you participate in +the project in some way, it is likely that you will be able to +have some influence over the shaping of the distro to meet the +needs of your own business - much more likely than if you were +to volunteer for, say, Microsoft! + + + +-- +Margot +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +**Otford Ducks Computers** +We teach, you learn... +...and, if you don't do your homework, we set the cat on you! +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1543">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1543">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1543">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1543">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001544.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001544.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3eb79026a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001544.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C1285753477.3727.760.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001527.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001546.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C1285753477.3727.760.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:44:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001527.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1544">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1544">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1544">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1544">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 10:50 +0800, Kira a écrit : +><i> 在 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:46:34 +0800, Lirodon <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">superfox436 at gmail.com</A>>寫道: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Doesn't packagekit provide Gnome and KDE-native interfaces for package +</I>><i> > management? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Shawn +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> I don't check the process of packagekit, but isn't the urpmi backend of +</I>><i> +</I>><i> packagekit was immature? If so, then there's no big need of it if we are +</I>><i> +</I>><i> going to stick with urpmi . +</I> +I have worked on it a little on it, to complete it, and the patches were +accepted upstream. According to +<A HREF="http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html">http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html</A> , the only important part we +miss are : +InstallFiles and WhatProvides , which may not be too hard to code. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001527.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1544">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1544">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1544">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1544">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001545.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001545.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd41c4f4d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001545.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C1285753586.3727.765.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001541.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001558.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C1285753586.3727.765.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:46:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1545">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1545">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1545">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1545">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 11:13 +0200, Marcello Anni a écrit : +><i> hi all, +</I>><i> i'm sorry for the subject of this e-mail but i would like it won't be ignored. +</I>><i> i think we need soon an artwork-related mailing list as this general ML is +</I>><i> being cluttered of proposals and e-mails not related at all with the aim of +</I>><i> this ML. can someone take in charge this task (or advice who can make it)? i +</I>><i> think also that we should make a poll to choose the logo and the pay-off. +</I> +As I said in the past, we do not want to create a mailling list for +every possible group on the wiki : +1) it complexifies administration + +2) not everybody like to handle too much places where discussion happens +( ie, it can become a mess if we open 45 mailling lists ) + +3) too much separation will kill productive cross-team conversation + +So a ml will maybe be created, but we first need to see how everything +will be articulated, and if the team prefer a ml or not, and what they +need after that. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1545">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1545">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1545">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1545">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001546.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001546.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b1a956fc7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001546.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vjsgc2j8ct0cxl%40kira-notebook.iis.sinica.edu.tw%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001544.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001547.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Kira</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.vjsgc2j8ct0cxl%40kira-notebook.iis.sinica.edu.tw%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">elegant.pegasus at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 11:52:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1546">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1546">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1546">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1546">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>在 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:44:37 +0800, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>寫道: +><i> I have worked on it a little on it, to complete it, and the patches were +</I>><i> accepted upstream. According to +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html">http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html</A> , the only important part we +</I>><i> miss are : +</I>><i> InstallFiles and WhatProvides , which may not be too hard to code. +</I>><i> +</I>But, do we need packagekit? I don't get it. + +---- +By the way, I think smart should win back some attention, since some + +good function is missed in rpmdrake. + +Maybe include it like the way canonical did(Two package management, + +one for newbie and one for expert?) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1546">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1546">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1546">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1546">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001547.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001547.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..99fd3311a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001547.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C1285754870.3727.802.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001546.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001552.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C1285754870.3727.802.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 12:07:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001552.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1547">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1547">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1547">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1547">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 17:52 +0800, Kira a écrit : +><i> 在 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 17:44:37 +0800, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>寫道: +</I>><i> > I have worked on it a little on it, to complete it, and the patches were +</I>><i> > accepted upstream. According to +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html">http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html</A> , the only important part we +</I>><i> > miss are : +</I>><i> > InstallFiles and WhatProvides , which may not be too hard to code. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> But, do we need packagekit? I don't get it. +</I> +Packagekit integration in gnome ( like "install gstreamer plugin when +needed to play a file" or "install on demand file when i type the +command" ) is nice, and IMHO, would solve some issue we tried to solve +with Suggests. + +><i> ---- +</I>><i> By the way, I think smart should win back some attention, since some +</I>><i> good function is missed in rpmdrake. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe include it like the way canonical did(Two package management, +</I>><i> one for newbie and one for expert?) +</I> +Usability experts will tell you that it is bad. Because people are not +able to fully judge what they need exactly solely based on the name, and +they have 2 systems to learn instead of one before choosing. +So having 2 graphical task for this will confuse newbie users, will +expert, by nature, are perfectly able to customize their system to suit +their needs. + +Canonical do this because that's a transition state, as the Software +center is not fully finished. They plan to have it as full featured as +synaptic for 10.10, according to +<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Roadmap">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Roadmap</A> , and while it is not +written, I assume they will then remove synaptic from default +installation. + +As a side note, having 2 graphical softwares for the same task also +requires twice the amount of test before release. And 2 differents +codepaths would also mean twice more bugs ( since there is 2 time more +code ). Nothing that can't be done of course, but maybe it is wiser to +spend QA time elsewhere. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001552.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1547">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1547">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1547">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1547">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001548.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001548.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..36445e423 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001548.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA322BD.8040209%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001540.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001549.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA322BD.8040209%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 13:27:57 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1548">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1548">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1548">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1548">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>P. Christeas wrote: +><i> On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Henri de Solages wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> 1) Small businesses ... I would prefer a system that JUST WORKS ... +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> I second to the whole content of that email. +</I>><i> +</I> +I think that's highly unlikely. No volunteer-driven Linux distro is +going to produce the type of turnkey commodity system Henri describes. +Volunteers are generally techies who value flexibility and choice; for a +distro to serve all the needs of its contributors (and why else would +they contribute ?), flexibility and choice are crucial. + +What he describes is typically the product of after-market niche +packagers producing things like netbooks. Real-world distributions are +in the business of appealing to as many people as possible, and +certainly not in the business of saving a small business owner the cost +of hiring a sysadmin to customize the distro to his exact needs. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1548">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1548">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1548">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1548">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001549.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001549.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..52e7577b2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001549.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291341.36304.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001548.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001550.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291341.36304.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 13:41:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1549">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1549">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1549">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1549">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> schrieb am 2010-09-29 +><i> I think that's highly unlikely. No volunteer-driven Linux distro is +</I>><i> going to produce the type of turnkey commodity system Henri describes. +</I>><i> Volunteers are generally techies who value flexibility and choice; for a +</I>><i> distro to serve all the needs of its contributors (and why else would +</I>><i> they contribute ?), flexibility and choice are crucial. +</I>+100 + +I do think, there would be a lot of people, leaving Mageia if we should start +only concentrating on one desktop and so on. + +But: It's all OpenSource, everybody can take a Mageia release and create a +product out of it, he can sell... + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1549">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1549">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1549">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1549">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001550.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001550.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..60862650d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001550.html @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikBrzo0a5PxO%3DUO1RoSdo%2BR7OYkgM4Ft8%2BBRyy8%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001549.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001537.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Will%20Mageia%20meet%20small%20businesses%27%20needs%3F&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikBrzo0a5PxO%3DUO1RoSdo%2BR7OYkgM4Ft8%2BBRyy8%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs?">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 13:44:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1550">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1550">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1550">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1550">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> Frank Griffin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>> schrieb am 2010-09-29 +</I>>><i> I think that's highly unlikely.  No volunteer-driven Linux distro is +</I>>><i> going to produce the type of turnkey commodity system Henri describes. +</I>>><i> Volunteers are generally techies who value flexibility and choice; for a +</I>>><i> distro to serve all the needs of its contributors (and why else would +</I>>><i> they contribute ?), flexibility and choice are crucial. +</I>><i> +100 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I do think, there would be a lot of people, leaving Mageia if we should start +</I>><i> only concentrating on one desktop and so on. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But: It's all OpenSource, everybody can take a Mageia release and create a +</I>><i> product out of it, he can sell... +</I>><i> +</I> +As with Mandriva Linux I expect community generated "Editions" being +compiled anyway (like XFCe, LXDE, special editions for netbooks, +tablets with touchscreens, etc.). So why not an edition for such Small +Business, nothing to say against somebody creating a business around +Mageia - as long as it is not the Mageia organisation itself. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1550">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1550">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1550">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1550">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001551.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001551.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6743693f3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001551.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Modern%20Simplistic%20Logo%20Proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DKC5yPjFJyrb_m0Y0f3cvya-o89wp9GAy7t2TB%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001623.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001555.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Modern%20Simplistic%20Logo%20Proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DKC5yPjFJyrb_m0Y0f3cvya-o89wp9GAy7t2TB%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 13:59:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001555.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1551">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1551">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1551">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1551">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> I do not like the font you used. It makes is difficult to read the name +</I>><i> (especially the 'e' letter) +</I> +I agree about the "e" + +Personally, I like more the mageia2.jpg logos. + +But I have to say the orange you're using looks similar to Ubuntu's +orange. In fact, the central logo in mageia2.jpg looks very similar to +Ubuntu's logo, but with four points. + +About the "M", your logo looks like the Municipality of Rosario +<A HREF="http://www.rosario.gov.ar/">http://www.rosario.gov.ar/</A> + +But I love the general idea of keep it simple. If you make changes or +new logos, please keep simplicity in mind. And you could try with more +abstract designs or base in the ideas and feels that Mageia inspires +(like freedom, community, equality, etc). + +Cheers! + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001555.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1551">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1551">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1551">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1551">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001552.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001552.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8486c67c9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001552.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291411.25060.fri%40tribun.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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There is a page about this +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A> + +And once everything is cleared, if there is some logos left, then we +could proceed to a poll. + +But I think that a poll will open a lot of questions : who can express +their opinion, what guarantees will we have it to not be hijacked ( as +could doodle be ), how do we ensure a representative choice ? +Ie, if we ask on people on this list, are we sure to have a logo that +would please everyone else ? Do we want to ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001618.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001566.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1554">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1554">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1554">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1554">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001555.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001555.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ebcc93bc5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001555.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Other%20logo%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin-%2BH8r-6JeDaSEXhmuNvq5gu2uV3S%2BfxhePU%3DR%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001551.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001562.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal</H1> + <B>rom1dep</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Other%20logo%20proposal&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin-%2BH8r-6JeDaSEXhmuNvq5gu2uV3S%2BfxhePU%3DR%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal">rom1dep at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 14:44:25 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001551.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001562.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1555">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1555">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1555">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1555">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I find this one pretty cool, maybe the colors need to be reworked a +little but this proposal is modern, attractive, nice work ! 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That's what +</I>><i> Gaël Duval wrote in an interview right after the acquisition when he +</I>><i> still talked as representative of the company. +</I> +Well, it was a example of the management thinking without knowing the +reality of the real world, imho. + +Ie, urpmi had to be maintained, since drakx required it ( or a full +drakx rewrite had to be done ). Having both python and perl in the +installer would have been a mess IMHO, and this was already done with +msec. So keeping smart and urpmi at the same time is just twice the +needed ressources in term of communication, in term of testing and so +on. + +The claim of integrating technologie is often seen when 2 companies +merge, but it seems that upper management is not exactly aware on what +"integrating technologies" mean. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001557.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1556">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1556">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1556">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1556">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001557.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001557.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ef7478ddc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001557.html @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DrRwd%3D%3Dkqt6GTO8LWP%3D1BSLfcjzy0zSoZ1FX2c%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001556.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001533.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Per Øyvind Karlsen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DrRwd%3D%3Dkqt6GTO8LWP%3D1BSLfcjzy0zSoZ1FX2c%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">peroyvind at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:10:44 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1557">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1557">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1557">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1557">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>>: +><i> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 10:24 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +</I>>><i> 2010/9/29 Per Øyvind Karlsen <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">peroyvind at mandriva.org</A>>: +</I>>><i> > Michael has already corrected you on this, Mandriva most certainly +</I>>><i> > didn't want to see Niemeyer leaving.. :/ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This is at least debatable. +</I>>><i> When Mandriva acquired Conectiva it was said that smart will be +</I>>><i> supported and promoted on equal terms as urpmi/rpmdrake. That's what +</I>>><i> Gaël Duval wrote in an interview right after the acquisition when he +</I>>><i> still talked as representative of the company. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, it was a example of the management thinking without knowing the +</I>><i> reality of the real world, imho. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Ie, urpmi had to be maintained, since drakx required it ( or a full +</I>><i> drakx rewrite had to be done ). Having both python and perl in the +</I>><i> installer would have been a mess IMHO, and this was already done with +</I>><i> msec. So keeping smart and urpmi at the same time is just twice the +</I>><i> needed ressources in term of communication, in term of testing and so +</I>><i> on. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The claim of integrating technologie is often seen when 2 companies +</I>><i> merge, but it seems that upper management is not exactly aware on what +</I>><i> "integrating technologies" mean. +</I>I guess smart just simply weren't mature enough yet either as a +replacement for urpmi either must've played a big part in it as well.. + +I'm eager to do more and have done quite a bit work on smart for this +though (but not on GUI), really want it to behave much more like urpmi +and get rid of it's fugly apt heritage and poor genes from it.. ;) + +I've already done a urpmisync plugin for using existing urpmi +configuration, media etc. in place, with support for either reusing +urpmi's mirror list and geolocation or updating such on it's own, +perhaps a wrapper for smart to act as urpmi with same arguments and +all could be a next step? This should be a relative easy task to do +once implementing more of missing functionality and behaviour of +urpmi. :) + +GUI isn't something I wouldn't like to touch with a ten foot pole though.. :p + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1557">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1557">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1557">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1557">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001558.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001558.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fa52dad9b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001558.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C004601cb5fd7%24fbe5f470%24f3b1dd50%24%40de%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001545.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001575.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Thorsten van Lil</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C004601cb5fd7%24fbe5f470%24f3b1dd50%24%40de%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">tvl83 at gmx.de + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:12:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001545.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001575.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1558">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1558">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1558">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1558">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +><i>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 11:13 +0200, Marcello Anni a écrit : +</I>>><i> hi all, +</I>>><i> i'm sorry for the subject of this e-mail but i would like it won't be ignored. +</I>>><i> i think we need soon an artwork-related mailing list +</I> +><i> As I said in the past, we do not want to create a mailling list for +</I>><i> every possible group on the wiki : +</I> +For sure but I think a list for design, marketing, official communication and maybe web developer couldn't be wrong. +I mean one list for those groups. 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One of +those fields is to write founding documents. + +IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these: + +* Etiquette for mailing lists: +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette</A> + +* Code of conduct: <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct</A> + +And I said "provisionally" because I guess we'll have our own rules. +But I don't think that courtesy and respect will be absent in our +rules. In fact, I think "our rules" will be pretty much the same as +the links I posted. + +For those who don't know these documentos, please, take a few minutes +and read them. + +I'm sending this mail to mageia-dev / mageia-discuss / mageia-i18n +lists. But as separate e-mails. + +Cheers! + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001562.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001563.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1559">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1559">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1559">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1559">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001560.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001560.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..399551930 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001560.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3406E.5030405%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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You didn't provide the link. ;) + +Pat +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001555.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001559.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1562">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1562">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1562">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1562">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001563.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001563.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..064b6042f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001563.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Provisional%22%20Netiquette%20for%20ML%20and%20Code%20of%0A%09Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinByY1mAu31WpfbY8Lz2YN4w%3DFa_gDWXFkckJTt%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001559.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001565.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Provisional%22%20Netiquette%20for%20ML%20and%20Code%20of%0A%09Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinByY1mAu31WpfbY8Lz2YN4w%3DFa_gDWXFkckJTt%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:38:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001559.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001565.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1563">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1563">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1563">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1563">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> Founders of Mageia project are working hard in many "fields". One of +</I>><i> those fields is to write founding documents. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * Etiquette for mailing lists: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> * Code of conduct: <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And I said "provisionally" because I guess we'll have our own rules. +</I>><i> But I don't think that courtesy and respect will be absent in our +</I>><i> rules. In fact, I think "our rules" will be pretty much the same as +</I>><i> the links I posted. +</I> +Agreed, most mailing lists have the same set of rules because some +principles have turned out to be essential everywhere, no matter what +the ML is about. +. +><i> I'm sending this mail to mageia-dev / mageia-discuss / mageia-i18n +</I>><i> lists. But as separate e-mails. +</I> +Hmm, I'm replying on mageia-discuss. Next one will reply on +mageia-dev, another replies on mageia-i18n. 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Next one will reply on +</I>><i> mageia-dev, another replies on mageia-i18n. IMHO not really efficient. +</I> +I know. But I didn't want to make "cross posting" with a single mail. +But, at the same time, I wanted to reach all people. + +The idea of my e-mail isn't to have replies, but to let people know +about this documents. Of course, I'm not saying "DON'T REPLY!!!!!". +Just feel that there's no need since it's just an "informative" +e-mail. + +Thanks! + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001563.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001581.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1565">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1565">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1565">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1565">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001566.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001566.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3044fbeae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001566.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D02794E07%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001554.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001567.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Dubeau, Patrick</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CA31E65CCB1B23F49A8B97A3A0947018D02794E07%40EXCHANGE2003.ccq.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:25:06 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001567.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1566">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1566">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1566">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1566">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> And once everything is cleared, if there is some logos left, then we +</I>><i> could proceed to a poll. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I think that a poll will open a lot of questions : who can express +</I>><i> their opinion, what guarantees will we have it to not be hijacked ( as +</I>><i> could doodle be ), how do we ensure a representative choice ? +</I>><i> Ie, if we ask on people on this list, are we sure to have a logo that +</I>><i> would please everyone else ? Do we want to ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Michael Scherer +</I> +Is a poll really suitable in this case? I have the same feeling as you misc, +I am not sure that the result will fit the perception/look and the image we +want for this new distribution. + +I think there should be a closed group of people deciding wich is the right +logo for Mageia. The choice should be done by the Board members since tey +will be elected and thus represent the whole community. + +My 2 cents on that. + + +Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO +<A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org</A> + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001567.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1566">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1566">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1566">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1566">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001567.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001567.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..67f199936 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001567.html @@ -0,0 +1,95 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimj3nnKJCqVhEEDmQB33_hR%2B-RhCqF_ARg_VyO0%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001566.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001571.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimj3nnKJCqVhEEDmQB33_hR%2B-RhCqF_ARg_VyO0%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:47:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001566.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001571.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1567">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1567">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1567">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1567">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> I think there should be a closed group of people deciding wich is the right +</I>><i> logo for Mageia. The choice should be done by the Board members since tey +</I>><i> will be elected and thus represent the whole community. +</I> ++1 + +That's why the board will exist. You just can't live the whole +community decide everything with pols. + +IMHO that the "cooker" replacement name should be chosen by the board +too. But, of course, I fully respect the decision. + +Cheers! + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001566.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001571.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1567">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1567">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1567">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1567">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001568.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001568.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5ac2e6d12 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001568.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinc1qFVJ3kQE3r4WAAwMq6hky1OtqAmcw%2B3%2BWUu%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001561.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001569.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Erwien Samantha Y</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinc1qFVJ3kQE3r4WAAwMq6hky1OtqAmcw%2B3%2BWUu%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer">erwiensamantha at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:47:50 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001561.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001569.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1568">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1568">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1568">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1568">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote: +><i> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] Maât wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> If you run fast enough to <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.com">http://donate.mageia.com</A> you'll see something +</I>><i> amusing... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mageia.org !!! +</I> +Maybe someone not fast enough, +... +Currently we have got: 4242,42 € ! Thanks all, your help is most welcome ! + +Details : +Via transfer: 1485 € +Via check: 75 € +Via Paypal: 2682,42 +... + +"The magic continue!!!" + +regards, +Erwien. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001561.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001569.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1568">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1568">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1568">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1568">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001569.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001569.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..04c72f5a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001569.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA34484.6020502%40vilarem.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001568.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001570.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Maât</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA34484.6020502%40vilarem.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer">maat-ml at vilarem.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:52:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001568.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1569">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1569">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1569">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1569">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 15:47, Erwien Samantha Y a écrit : +><i> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] Maât wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If you run fast enough to <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.com">http://donate.mageia.com</A> you'll see something +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> amusing... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> mageia.org !!! +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe someone not fast enough, +</I>><i> +</I>I think you were fast enough + +( +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe_and_Everything_.2842.29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe_and_Everything_.2842.29</A> +) + +Cheers, +Maât + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001568.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1569">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1569">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1569">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1569">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001570.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001570.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2b874ce98 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001570.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291557.37689.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001569.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001573.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291557.37689.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 15:57:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001569.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001573.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1570">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1570">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1570">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1570">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 15:34:38, Maât a écrit : +><i> If you run fast enough to <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.com">http://donate.mageia.com</A> you'll see something +</I>><i> amusing... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ...the last donator made a humoristic donation that raised the amount to +</I>><i> show three times the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, +</I>><i> The Universe, and Everything :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Fun enough to notice :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> Maât +</I>><i> +</I>><i> (Hope this will bring good luck to Mageia) +</I>><i> +</I> +Ok guys, we've got the screen capture, keep on donate !! + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001569.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001573.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1570">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1570">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1570">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1570">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001571.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001571.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cee0733d4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001571.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! 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Do we want to ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > -- +</I>><i> > Michael Scherer +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is a poll really suitable in this case? I have the same feeling as you +</I>><i> misc, I am not sure that the result will fit the perception/look and the +</I>><i> image we want for this new distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I think there should be a closed group of people deciding wich is the right +</I>><i> logo for Mageia. The choice should be done by the Board members since tey +</I>><i> will be elected and thus represent the whole community. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> My 2 cents on that. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org">http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org</A> +</I> +i agree with micheal and patrick, it is better a choice made by elected +members in order to have a global vision of the project and avoid the issues +you highlighted. + + +><i> Michael Scherer a écrit: +</I>><i> As I said in the past, we do not want to create a mailling list for +</I>><i> every possible group on the wiki : +</I>><i> 1) it complexifies administration +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2) not everybody like to handle too much places where discussion happens +</I>><i> ( ie, it can become a mess if we open 45 mailling lists ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 3) too much separation will kill productive cross-team conversation +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So a ml will maybe be created, but we first need to see how everything +</I>><i> will be articulated, and if the team prefer a ml or not, and what they +</I>><i> need after that. +</I> +in fact we need to find a right balance between specific tasks (and needs to +coordinate) and avoid of fragmantation. i think artwork and promotion (instead +of announce, in order to not leave an empty ML to be used only twice a year) +ML could be created, if you're not agree, we can discuss it in a further time +and now leave things as they're now (to not treat too many topics in the same +time). + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001567.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001572.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1571">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1571">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1571">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1571">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001572.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001572.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8f13393a0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001572.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimCemmS3w%2Bp1VF38uT1HWQfMMO%3DcO%2B_c1bmdESp%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001571.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001577.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimCemmS3w%2Bp1VF38uT1HWQfMMO%3DcO%2B_c1bmdESp%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:26:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001571.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001577.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1572">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1572">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1572">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1572">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> in fact we need to find a right balance between specific tasks (and needs to +</I>><i> coordinate) and avoid of fragmantation. +</I> +I agree. It's better to have less MLs. In any case, people can follow +the thread they want/like and live the others. + +We must manage it wisely and not reach a hell like this: +<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/.">https://lists.ubuntu.com/.</A> For many reasons: server space / power, +bandwidth, order, avoid fragmentation, (common sense? 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+</I>><i> +</I> + +I'm sure we can reach another noticeable amount ! +Go Go Go !! + +=) + + +-- +Elodie / DjeZAeL +Utilisatrice de GNU/Linux et de Logiciels Libres +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/7c661c74/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001574.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1573">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1573">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1573">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1573">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001574.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001574.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..34a24730e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001574.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikcdHaU_XVLJ4p3AmkcWkXFhiwqPQcCPzC03mWx%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001573.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001579.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikcdHaU_XVLJ4p3AmkcWkXFhiwqPQcCPzC03mWx%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:30:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001573.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1574">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1574">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1574">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1574">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> I'm sure we can reach another noticeable amount ! +</I> +Maybe we can take next screenshot in a month... when we reach 1 +million? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD (thinking positive!!!!) + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001573.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1574">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1574">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1574">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1574">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001575.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001575.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..624e21ab3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001575.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C1285771366.3727.1209.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001558.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001578.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C1285771366.3727.1209.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:42:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1575">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1575">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1575">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1575">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:12 +0200, Thorsten van Lil a écrit : +><i> +</I>><i> >Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 11:13 +0200, Marcello Anni a écrit : +</I>><i> >> hi all, +</I>><i> >> i'm sorry for the subject of this e-mail but i would like it won't be ignored. +</I>><i> >> i think we need soon an artwork-related mailing list +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > As I said in the past, we do not want to create a mailling list for +</I>><i> > every possible group on the wiki : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For sure but I think a list for design, marketing, official communication and maybe web developer couldn't be wrong. +</I>><i> I mean one list for those groups. Because they have to work close together and there is (or will be) an extra marketing team around Graham (afaik). +</I> +Yup, I would agree, as I said in the past. + +But your example of web team is one example of the issue we have : + +We can say "web team goes with design/comm" or "web team goes with +sysadmin", depending on the duty of web team. + +Ie web team itself is not well defined. Does this mean people who take +care of web application, in this case which one ? Does it mean their are +in charge of website design, in which case this is partially the duty of +design ? +Who is in charge of upgrade and security of the server, the sysadmin ? +And this has implication in access we need to give. + +The same goes for marketing vs communication vs design. While there is +clear area for them, there is lots of similarity ( except that I am +quite a novice in such domain, so I cannot give example ). + +So a simple thing like "how do we name the team", and "how do we ensure +that people in a team are correctly represented" can be tricky. + +We need to discuss this, but it is more urgent for the moment to setup +the infrastructure. Maybe we could have started by this and then +announce the project, but this would not have been open enough nor +viable, since we received hosting proposal mainly because it was +announced and open. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1575">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1575">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1575">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1575">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001576.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001576.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e11b4b025 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001576.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinV_AZ9NBtefbVR5_LyB9gOS_9b2ySo9O9diyVm%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001577.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001623.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinV_AZ9NBtefbVR5_LyB9gOS_9b2ySo9O9diyVm%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:43:58 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001577.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1576">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1576">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1576">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1576">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 14:42, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Oh, and I forgot, before doing a poll, I think we need to select logo +</I>><i> according to some criterias : +</I>><i> [...] +</I> +Could you review and complete +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A> with those you added? I'll +have some to insert as well. + +><i> - see how trademark issue will be handled, this not decided yet, and +</I>><i> that's quite a sensitive topic, as you need to be permissive and +</I>><i> protective in the same time. +</I> +Rights on artwork will have to be transmitted to the association, +which will register the logo as a trademark. Precisely because that's +a sensitive thing indeed. + +><i> And I am sure that experienced designers may add some others +</I>><i> requirements to this. There is a page about this +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And once everything is cleared, if there is some logos left, then we +</I>><i> could proceed to a poll. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I think that a poll will open a lot of questions : who can express +</I>><i> their opinion, what guarantees will we have it to not be hijacked ( as +</I>><i> could doodle be ), how do we ensure a representative choice ? +</I>><i> Ie, if we ask on people on this list, are we sure to have a logo that +</I>><i> would please everyone else ? Do we want to ? +</I> +Obviously a poll can be indicative, but decision in last resort will +be somewhere between the founding board and the community +council/board (more to come about this, very soon). Because a logo is +not only a like/don't like thing and it should fit the destination of +the project in the long term. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001577.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1576">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1576">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1576">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1576">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001577.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001577.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9640deb84 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001577.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C1285771689.3727.1220.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001572.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001576.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C1285771689.3727.1220.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:48:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001572.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1577">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1577">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1577">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1577">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 11:26 -0300, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit : +><i> > in fact we need to find a right balance between specific tasks (and needs to +</I>><i> > coordinate) and avoid of fragmantation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree. It's better to have less MLs. In any case, people can follow +</I>><i> the thread they want/like and live the others. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We must manage it wisely and not reach a hell like this: +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/.">https://lists.ubuntu.com/.</A> For many reasons: server space / power, +</I>><i> bandwidth, order, avoid fragmentation, (common sense? XDDDD) +</I> +Well, too much ml may be unavoidable. +See <A HREF="https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo">https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo</A> , or +<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html">http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html</A> + +My own theory is that the structure will emerge by itself. We need some +criteria to create mailing list, as well as criteria to shut them down. + +Debian has this document +<A HREF="http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list">http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list</A> , I guess we will +need to take a look later once the question will arise. +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001572.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1577">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1577">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1577">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1577">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001578.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001578.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d761efdea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001578.html @@ -0,0 +1,114 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dc4pwAu7pA2fy7Sw-VaNMnatvF%3DT5XWouhDmBe%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001575.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001618.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3Dc4pwAu7pA2fy7Sw-VaNMnatvF%3DT5XWouhDmBe%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:51:14 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001575.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001618.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1578">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1578">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1578">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1578">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 16:42, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +><i> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:12 +0200, Thorsten van Lil a écrit : +</I>>><i> [...] +</I>>><i> > As I said in the past, we do not want to create a mailling list for +</I>>><i> > every possible group on the wiki : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For sure but I think a list for design, marketing, official communication +</I>>><i> and maybe web developer couldn't be wrong. +</I>>><i> I mean one list for those groups. Because they have to work close +</I>>><i> together and there is (or will be) an extra marketing team around Graham +</I>>><i> (afaik). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yup, I would agree, as I said in the past. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But your example of web team is one example of the issue we have : +</I>><i> [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The same goes for marketing vs communication vs design. While there is +</I>><i> clear area for them, there is lots of similarity ( except that I am +</I>><i> quite a novice in such domain, so I cannot give example ). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So a simple thing like "how do we name the team", and "how do we ensure +</I>><i> that people in a team are correctly represented" can be tricky. +</I> +Indeed. Moreover, we will need to make "apparently of somehow +diverging interest" teams work together, by pair, on several runs. +This will help all teams to get to know each other and work better +together. An example some Mozilla people suggested me is: making the +marketing and developers teams collaborate to recruit/improve their +beta-testers population (it benefits developers team and it requires +marketing insights for that). You can imagine a lot of cooperation +tasks like this. + +There, it would help to have more atomic mailing-lists (per specialty) +but some other tool, empowering more cross-teams collaborations or +ad-hoc teams setups (mailing-list may not be the right solution here, +not sure what at this time). + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001575.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001618.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1578">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1578">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1578">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1578">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001579.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001579.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..39fcc37a1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001579.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DoZ%3Dh%3DWTHqAE1HpJfW8qBvWaKH9RYQA-1z4VCF%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001574.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001589.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Erwien Samantha Y</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DoZ%3Dh%3DWTHqAE1HpJfW8qBvWaKH9RYQA-1z4VCF%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">erwiensamantha at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 16:52:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001574.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1579">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1579">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1579">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1579">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Gustavo Giampaoli +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +>><i> I'm sure we can reach another noticeable amount ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe we can take next screenshot in a month... when we reach 1 +</I>><i> million? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD (thinking positive!!!!) +</I>><i> +</I> +Spread the news to any social web (twitter, facebook, linkedin, ect) +Maybe some angel investor or millionaire just interesting to donate. :Hehehehe + +regards, +Erwien. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001574.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1579">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1579">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1579">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1579">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001580.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001580.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fdf72f033 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001580.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimbGx4b_4zSb_dJzPfS%2BDvdE_zZFbnx-T2KBq_A%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001553.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001582.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimbGx4b_4zSb_dJzPfS%2BDvdE_zZFbnx-T2KBq_A%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 18:16:35 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001553.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1580">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1580">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1580">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1580">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 15:11, Morgan Leijström <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>> wrote: +><i> Den 2010-09-29 12:07:50 skrev Michael Scherer: +</I>>><i> Packagekit integration in gnome ( like "install gstreamer plugin when +</I>>><i> needed to play a file" or "install on demand file when i type the +</I>>><i> command" ) is nice, and IMHO, would solve some issue we tried to solve +</I>>><i> with Suggests. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It is often good, but: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> When on slow download it is more appreciated if all possible dependencies +</I>><i> would have ben installed with the requested program at original install time +</I>><i> from DVD or fast internet @home/work instead of slow wireless/phone +</I>><i> connection. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Especially think of the case where you have *no* internet connection and want +</I>><i> to, say, play a video but can not because you do no thave that specfic codec. +</I>><i> Or must because of work open an unusual file. +</I>><i> +</I> + +DVD disc sizes will always be a limiting factor, i.e. you can't fit +the whole main repo on one single DVD; and multiple DVD's means more +initial download size when (e.g. 2x4GB ISO's or more). Also note that +if you're installing e.g. KDE4, then all the GNOME packages on those +iso's are useless to you. + +Of course you can easily set up the online resources during the +installation process, this way you'll get all the suggested packages +at install time. + + +><i> Ideas: +</I>><i> Could there be a (sticky) main control in the package manager (and installer) +</I>><i> to select wether to install suggests immediately, or when needed. +</I>><i> +</I> +Both the package manager and the installer default to installing +suggested packages, unless explicitly disabled; you can do this by +editing /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg (see 'main urpmi.cfg'). I don't know how +to disable installing suggests in the installer though, but you can +always do a minimal install. + +><i> +</I>><i> (And preferrably also a method to later install all suggests in all already +</I>><i> installed packages) +</I>><i> +</I> +This was discussed before, so the idea is there, but not implemented.. yet. :) + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001553.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1580">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1580">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1580">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1580">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001581.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001581.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..40044b5a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001581.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Provisional%22%20Netiquette%20for%20ML%20and%20Code%20of%0A%09Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinSvAY5TTgCrOnsO_t_vcttMY92HAOh8d3gj%3D8z%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001565.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001583.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Provisional%22%20Netiquette%20for%20ML%20and%20Code%20of%0A%09Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinSvAY5TTgCrOnsO_t_vcttMY92HAOh8d3gj%3D8z%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 18:27:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001565.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001583.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1581">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1581">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1581">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1581">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 16:42, Gustavo Giampaoli +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +>><i> Hmm, I'm replying on mageia-discuss. Next one will reply on +</I>>><i> mageia-dev, another replies on mageia-i18n. IMHO not really efficient. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I know. But I didn't want to make "cross posting" with a single mail. +</I>><i> But, at the same time, I wanted to reach all people. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The idea of my e-mail isn't to have replies, but to let people know +</I>><i> about this documents. Of course, I'm not saying "DON'T REPLY!!!!!". +</I>><i> Just feel that there's no need since it's just an "informative" +</I>><i> e-mail. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, you could have just sent one email to all the ML's (think of +those who are subscribed to all those ML's, they'll get the same email +three times :)). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001565.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001583.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1581">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1581">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1581">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1581">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001582.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001582.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0b3faa103 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001582.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3693E.2040805%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001580.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001588.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Robert Wood</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3693E.2040805%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 18:28:46 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1582">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1582">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1582">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1582">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>My take on this is that I would much rather download a large ISO because +I often end up installing on multiple machines and it makes it much +nicer and easier if there are a large number of packages at install time. + +One thing that puts me off trying Fedora is that they're all CD ISOs and +I love that Mandriva does such a complete install with its DVD ISO. + +If you want the smaller download with Mandriva you can download One. + +On 29/09/10 17:16, Ahmad Samir wrote: +><i> DVD disc sizes will always be a limiting factor, i.e. you can't fit +</I>><i> the whole main repo on one single DVD; and multiple DVD's means more +</I>><i> initial download size when (e.g. 2x4GB ISO's or more). Also note that +</I>><i> if you're installing e.g. KDE4, then all the GNOME packages on those +</I>><i> iso's are useless to you. +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1582">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1582">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1582">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1582">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001583.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001583.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..290e1bce9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001583.html @@ -0,0 +1,85 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%22Provisional%22%20Netiquette%20for%20ML%20and%20Code%20of%0A%09Conduct&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinyS4vCFZVyN_0L0-jDxg1HLaNg-9y-Dq1tdGRa%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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because with +each Mandriva release Anne used to send an email to cooker, +maintainers, translation mailing lists all in one email, not separate +ones and it worked. + +Also in Mandriva Sympa is used, however in Mageia Mailman is used, +different beasts == different habbits :) + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001583.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001630.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1584">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1584">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1584">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1584">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001585.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001585.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dc3d0dd1d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001585.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinNtnN5Z6BOeRLz8Kx9dFObbRBEDRomnDVZeBho%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I don't think they should opt for +double-layer DVD's just yet, wouldn't you say? not everyone has a DL +DVD drive... + +><i> One thing that puts me off trying Fedora is that they're all CD ISOs and I +</I>><i> love that Mandriva does such a complete install with its DVD ISO. +</I>><i> +</I> +FWIW Fedora has a DVD +<A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats">http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats</A> (one for 32bit +and one for 64bit). + +P.S. Please don't top-post when sending emails to mailing lists: +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post</A> + +><i> If you want the smaller download with Mandriva you can download One. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On 29/09/10 17:16, Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> DVD disc sizes will always be a limiting factor, i.e. you can't fit +</I>>><i> the whole main repo on one single DVD; and multiple DVD's means more +</I>>><i> initial download size when (e.g. 2x4GB ISO's or more). Also note that +</I>>><i> if you're installing e.g. KDE4, then all the GNOME packages on those +</I>>><i> iso's are useless to you. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1585">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1585">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1585">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1585">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001586.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001586.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c15c9e75b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001586.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291905.08442.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001534.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001517.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Renaud MICHEL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291905.08442.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:05:08 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1586">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1586">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1586">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1586">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 09:55, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote : +><i> Not really, I've been porting more or less most tools of the +</I>><i> distribution to rpm5 already. +</I> +Is rpm5 compatible with rpm4? +What I mean is, with a distribution based on rpm5, will packages created +with rpm4 (likely from the latest current version) be installable without +problem (provided the dependencies are met)? + +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1586">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1586">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1586">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1586">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001587.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001587.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f1f9d84ee --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001587.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA371CD.70603%40damsweb.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001564.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001591.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Damien Lallement</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA371CD.70603%40damsweb.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">mageia at damsweb.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:05:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001564.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1587">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1587">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1587">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1587">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello boys and girls, + +As you know, we are working on the localization of the Mageia Blog. +I'm looking for volunteers to join the Blog Team (BT). + +What is the role of the Blog Team? +- Manage blogs ; +- Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +- Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team +and the other related teams) ; +- Translate content from the EN blog ; +- Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +- Inform the project and needed people about important comments or +remarks in the threads of a blog ; + +I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the +process to follow for each tasks asked. + +For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +default). +If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this thread +to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you will be +in charge of it! + +To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +So, let's go to apply. :-) +-- +Damien Lallement +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001564.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1587">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1587">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1587">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1587">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001588.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001588.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..54bec6f4b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001588.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DsM69BTNCWU3fKOK-BhOGfAxOyzEKzaHAgGOrO%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001582.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001592.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DsM69BTNCWU3fKOK-BhOGfAxOyzEKzaHAgGOrO%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 18:59:26 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1588">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1588">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1588">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1588">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>IMHO, there's nothing to decide about DEB vs RPM. RPM worked fine +since the beginning (I think). So, if it's not broken, why to fix it? + +I think, maybe developers should take in consideration to user +DeltaRPM in Mageia someday. I'm saying this because I remember that +there is at Mandriva's bugzilla a request for using DeltaRPM. + +If someone named DeltaRPM before, I'm sorry. I missed that e-mail :( + +There's also a chance that I'm writing nonsense XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD + +Cheers! + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1588">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1588">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1588">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1588">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001589.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001589.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a8c7c5744 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001589.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C20100929171255.GL21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001579.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001597.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>nicolas vigier</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C20100929171255.GL21938%40mars-attacks.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:12:56 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1589">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1589">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1589">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1589">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, Olivier Méjean wrote: + +><i> +</I>><i> Ok guys, we've got the screen capture, keep on donate !! +</I> +Any URL for the screen capture ? :) + +I was not fast enough ... + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1589">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1589">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1589">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1589">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001590.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001590.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ea343e80 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001590.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA373FE.6040102%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001585.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001611.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Robert Wood</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA373FE.6040102%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:14:38 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1590">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1590">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1590">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1590">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Biggest iso size = ~4.3GB; I don't think they should opt for +</I>><i> double-layer DVD's just yet, wouldn't you say? not everyone has a DL +</I>><i> DVD drive... +</I> +Aye, I wasn't suggesting double layer, just saying that DVD installs are +way better than CD for my money. :~) + +><i> FWIW Fedora has a DVD +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats">http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats</A> (one for 32bit +</I>><i> and one for 64bit). +</I> +Nice one, thanks! I think I'll give that a go. + +><i> P.S. Please don't top-post when sending emails to mailing lists: +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post</A> +</I> +OK. Point taken. + +Mind you, I think that "it's much easier to read thing" is very much +matter of taste. I don't think at all that it's a hard and fast rule. +Sometimes it's easier, sometimes (usually) top posting is better [from +my perspective]. +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1590">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1590">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1590">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1590">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001591.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001591.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bdca5230a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001591.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA37499.4020603%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001587.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001595.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Ireneusz Gierlach</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA37499.4020603%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">irek.gierlach at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:17:13 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1591">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1591">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1591">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1591">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> On 09/29/2010 01:05 PM, Damien Lallement wrote: +><i> For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +</I>><i> default). +</I>><i> If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this +</I>><i> thread to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you +</I>><i> will be in charge of it! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I>I would love to see the PL (Polish) blog. +I can also help out with the EN version :) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1591">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1591">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1591">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1591">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001592.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001592.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..153501825 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001592.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA374A1.80603%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001588.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001593.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Robert Wood</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA374A1.80603%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:17:21 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1592">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1592">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1592">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1592">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29/09/10 17:59, Gustavo Giampaoli wrote: +><i> IMHO, there's nothing to decide about DEB vs RPM. RPM worked fine +</I>><i> since the beginning (I think). So, if it's not broken, why to fix it? +</I> +Also, if you want deb, just go and use Ubuntu or one of its derivatives! +Other than that I would imagine going to deb would be a massive job? +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1592">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1592">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1592">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1592">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001593.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001593.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d698736df --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001593.html @@ -0,0 +1,60 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA37504.9010708%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001592.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001585.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Robert Wood</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA37504.9010708%40apostrophe.co.uk%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:19:00 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1593">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1593">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1593">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1593">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Also, if you want deb, just go and use Ubuntu or one of its derivatives! +</I>><i> Other than that I would imagine going to deb would be a massive job? +</I> +Oops, I meant Debian or one of its derivatives. :~) + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1593">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1593">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1593">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1593">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001594.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001594.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..130e66ec3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001594.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DBDh_2FqGePOKXd-_jzF6NUkE6X4m3tGwUe7Lu%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001638.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001599.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DBDh_2FqGePOKXd-_jzF6NUkE6X4m3tGwUe7Lu%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:18:34 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1594">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1594">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1594">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1594">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>As part of the MDKTrans team (Spanish translations), I want to say +that we'll take care of the Spanish blog. + +Diego Bello is the "boss" in MDKTrans, but the whole team is ready. + +Cheers!!!!! + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1594">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1594">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1594">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1594">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001595.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001595.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..502449ea7 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001595.html @@ -0,0 +1,113 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DHUvn%3Da6Uc7hgpVtTcBjKO27izfcAec7jjaoMc%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001591.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001596.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Domingos Teruel</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DHUvn%3Da6Uc7hgpVtTcBjKO27izfcAec7jjaoMc%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">mingomax at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:19:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1595">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1595">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1595">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1595">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I can help replicating and summarizing in Portuguese and spanish. + +How can i join the team? + + +On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ireneusz Gierlach <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">irek.gierlach at gmail.com</A>> +wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> On 09/29/2010 01:05 PM, Damien Lallement wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +</I>default). +>><i> If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this thread +</I>to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you will be in +charge of it! +>><i> +</I>>><i> To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>>><i> So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would love to see the PL (Polish) blog. +</I>><i> I can also help out with the EN version :) +</I> + + +-- +Mingo ++55 11 7141 2357 (Vivo) +BlackBerry Device (9000 Bold OS 4.6) +São Paulo +Desenvolvedor Web +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/e1151741/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1595">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1595">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1595">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1595">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001596.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001596.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..96bc4c35c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001596.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D-ezhUtdsPuzSVcB1s3NJLWNdVUGJDQ75z3D6c%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001595.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001598.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Gustavo Giampaoli</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3D-ezhUtdsPuzSVcB1s3NJLWNdVUGJDQ75z3D6c%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:23:29 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1596">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1596">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1596">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1596">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Domingos Teruel <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mingomax at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> I can help replicating and summarizing in Portuguese and spanish. +</I>><i> How can i join the team? +</I> +For Spanish translation, I invite you to join MDKTrans team in www.blogdrake.net + +Blogdrake is the Spanish speaking Community for Mandriva users. And +no, for "future" mageia user too XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD + +Cheers! + + + +Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980) +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1596">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1596">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1596">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1596">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001597.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001597.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..393d3eefe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001597.html @@ -0,0 +1,73 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291930.37625.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001589.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001600.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291930.37625.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:30:37 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1597">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1597">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1597">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1597">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> schrieb am 2010-09-29 +><i> Any URL for the screen capture ? :) +</I><A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/download/file.php?id=717">http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/download/file.php?id=717</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1597">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1597">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1597">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1597">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001598.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001598.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..43c3ef0cf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001598.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA376D0.8060105%40damsweb.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001596.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001637.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Damien Lallement</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA376D0.8060105%40damsweb.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">mageia at damsweb.net + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:26:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1598">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1598">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1598">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1598">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 19:19, Domingos Teruel a écrit : +><i> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ireneusz Gierlach +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">irek.gierlach at gmail.com</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">irek.gierlach at gmail.com</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > On 09/29/2010 01:05 PM, Damien Lallement wrote: +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" +</I>><i> by default). +</I>><i> >> If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this +</I>><i> thread to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you +</I>><i> will be in charge of it! +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> >> So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I would love to see the PL (Polish) blog. +</I>><i> > I can also help out with the EN version :) +</I>><i> +</I> > I can help replicating and summarizing in Portuguese and spanish. + > + > How can i join the team? + +Great, first, please just answer on this thread, I will see tomorrow to +contact people depending on the number of people involved. + +Thanks all for your help. +-- +Damien Lallement +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1598">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1598">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1598">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1598">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001599.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001599.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4b4147515 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001599.html @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C1285781343.3727.1427.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001594.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001606.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C1285781343.3727.1427.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:29:03 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1599">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1599">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1599">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1599">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 19:05 +0200, Damien Lallement a écrit : +><i> Hello boys and girls, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you know, we are working on the localization of the Mageia Blog. +</I>><i> I'm looking for volunteers to join the Blog Team (BT). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is the role of the Blog Team? +</I>><i> - Manage blogs ; +</I>><i> - Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +</I>><i> - Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team +</I>><i> and the other related teams) ; +</I>><i> - Translate content from the EN blog ; +</I>><i> - Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +</I>><i> - Inform the project and needed people about important comments or +</I>><i> remarks in the threads of a blog ; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the +</I>><i> process to follow for each tasks asked. +</I> +Maybe you could also publish this announce on the blog ? + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001606.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1599">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1599">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1599">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1599">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001600.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001600.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..869fac690 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001600.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikofsTjqkWJwkDTj9wDO439H%2BSgRfVF_OXvMxqH%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001597.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001602.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikofsTjqkWJwkDTj9wDO439H%2BSgRfVF_OXvMxqH%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:30:39 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 20:30, Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> nicolas vigier <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> schrieb am 2010-09-29 +</I>>><i> Any URL for the screen capture ? :) +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/download/file.php?id=717">http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/download/file.php?id=717</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I guess this'll only work for registered users on mandrivauser.de: +"Du hast keine Berechtigung, diesen Dateianhang herunterzuladen." + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1600">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1600">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1600">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1600">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001601.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001601.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d7fd31e43 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001601.html @@ -0,0 +1,93 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3784D.1030003%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001617.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001603.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>DjeZAeL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3784D.1030003%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">djezael at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:33:01 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le 29/09/2010 19:30, Oliver Burger a écrit : +><i> nicolas vigier<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>> schrieb am 2010-09-29 +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Any URL for the screen capture ? :) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/download/file.php?id=717">http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/download/file.php?id=717</A> +</I>><i> +</I>It seems we need to be register (or other reason) to see the page. + +Here is a capture available for all : +<A HREF="http://download.tuxfamily.org/cooker/mageia/stats/Capture-DonationMageia424242.png">http://download.tuxfamily.org/cooker/mageia/stats/Capture-DonationMageia424242.png</A> + + +:<i>) +</I> +-- +DjeZAeL / Elodie + +Utilisatrice de Logiciels Libres et de GNU/Linux +"Le chemin est long mais la voie est Libre" + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001602.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001602.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8b1bbc529 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001602.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DTjUQoxCZPs1big98h-pBLcO_a%3Dn_Unms8kkeg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001600.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001617.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DTjUQoxCZPs1big98h-pBLcO_a%3Dn_Unms8kkeg%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 19:36:36 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1602">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1602">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1602">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1602">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/9/29 Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> I guess this'll only work for registered users on mandrivauser.de: +</I>><i> "Du hast keine Berechtigung, diesen Dateianhang herunterzuladen." +</I> +Yes.sorry for that. 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+</I>>><i> - Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +</I>>><i> - Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team +</I>>><i> and the other related teams) ; +</I>>><i> - Translate content from the EN blog ; +</I>>><i> - Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +</I>>><i> - Inform the project and needed people about important comments or +</I>>><i> remarks in the threads of a blog ; +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the +</I>>><i> process to follow for each tasks asked. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe you could also publish this announce on the blog ? +</I> +Yes, I will copy this message on a blog entry in a few minutes. +Thanks for the reminder misc. +-- +Damien Lallement +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001607.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001607.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..64d3249ae --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001607.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C20100929195201.5ff77189%40laptop%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+</I>><i> - Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +</I>><i> - Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team +</I>><i> and the other related teams) ; +</I>><i> - Translate content from the EN blog ; +</I>><i> - Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +</I>><i> - Inform the project and needed people about important comments or +</I>><i> remarks in the threads of a blog ; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the +</I>><i> process to follow for each tasks asked. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +</I>><i> default). +</I>><i> If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this thread +</I>><i> to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you will be +</I>><i> in charge of it! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I>><i> +</I> +if help needed for French, i am here :) + +-- +Olivier Méjean +Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +<A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +twitter : obagoom +identi.ca : goom +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1608">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1608">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1608">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1608">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001609.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001609.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..808de9988 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001609.html @@ -0,0 +1,142 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin%2BJoRLLrg4EubEG4dBmHyV0WtNs7LbbQrM48bE%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001608.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001622.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Filipe Saraiva</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin%2BJoRLLrg4EubEG4dBmHyV0WtNs7LbbQrM48bE%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">filip.saraiva at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:02:05 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello, + +I can be responsible for the blog in pt-br. + +Hugs, + +2010/9/29 Olivier Méjean <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">omejean at yahoo.fr</A>> + +><i> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 19:05:17, Damien Lallement a écrit : +</I>><i> > Hello boys and girls, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > As you know, we are working on the localization of the Mageia Blog. +</I>><i> > I'm looking for volunteers to join the Blog Team (BT). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > What is the role of the Blog Team? +</I>><i> > - Manage blogs ; +</I>><i> > - Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +</I>><i> > - Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team +</I>><i> > and the other related teams) ; +</I>><i> > - Translate content from the EN blog ; +</I>><i> > - Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +</I>><i> > - Inform the project and needed people about important comments or +</I>><i> > remarks in the threads of a blog ; +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the +</I>><i> > process to follow for each tasks asked. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +</I>><i> > default). +</I>><i> > If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this thread +</I>><i> > to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you will be +</I>><i> > in charge of it! +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> > So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> if help needed for French, i am here :) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Olivier Méjean +</I>><i> Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mandrivafr.org">http://mandrivafr.org</A> +</I>><i> twitter : obagoom +</I>><i> identi.ca : goom +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Filipe Saraiva +************************************** +Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A> + +Associação Piauiense de Software Livre +Projeto Software Livre - Piauí - PSL-PI + +“Você deve ser a mudança que deseja ver no mundo.” - Gandhi +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/fe667a53/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001610.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001610.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ca43b3f4f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001610.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291906.33122.richard.j.walker%40ntlworld.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001531.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001615.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Richard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009291906.33122.richard.j.walker%40ntlworld.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:06:32 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1610">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1610">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1610">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1610">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wednesday 29 September 2010 07:23:28 Renaud MICHEL wrote: +><i> On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 01:47, Richard wrote : +</I>><i> > Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which "depend" on Pulse +</I>><i> > and re-package them such that Pulse is only "recommended"? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here (2010.1 x86_64) KDE does not have a dependency on pulse audio. +</I>><i> Gnome has, because pulseaudio (actually the package is pulseaudio-esound- +</I>><i> compat) provides esound, which is required by gnome. +</I>><i> +</I>Sorry I was so careless in my comment. I was working from memory and those +memories are heavily dosed with frustration and annoyance. What I should have +done is give a concrete example. When I select lib64pulseaudio0 for removal, +rpmdrake lists 526 dependencies (direct and, presumably, indirect) which must +also be removed. + +Only 39 of these have the string "kde" in the package name, but some of these +are quite central to the operation of KDE; + +kdepasswd-4.4.3 +kdenetwork4-core-4.4.3 +kdemultimedia4-core-4.4.3 +kdegraphics4-core-4.4.3 +kdegames4-core-4.4.3 +kdeutils4-core-4.4.3 +kdelibs4-core-4.4.3 + +...for example. + +Many many more are kde applications. This is 2010.1 x86_64 +><i> +</I>><i> Anyway, you can simply disable pulseaudio from the control center, so it is +</I>><i> not a problem to have the package still lying around. +</I> +That is, of course, the first thing I do when installing new systems. I don't +think that I can agree that it is not a problem for me to have all of this +Pulse stuff lying around. I find it quite tricky enough to get all required +applications working as I want them without having to worry about whether +something somewhere thinks it can still use Pulse because the support files +are still present. + +Worse still are the applications which presume Pulse must be present and are +configured with that incorrect default assumption, but that's another gripe +for another place. + +Richard + + +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1610">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1610">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1610">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1610">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001611.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001611.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..aa80da61d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001611.html @@ -0,0 +1,90 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DeOz7jZP-9SM%3DYZJCZsEHuCGmuZs_XeOOVKB6G%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001590.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001613.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DeOz7jZP-9SM%3DYZJCZsEHuCGmuZs_XeOOVKB6G%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:24:47 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 20:14, Robert Wood <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">robert.wood at apostrophe.co.uk</A>> wrote: +>><i> Biggest iso size = ~4.3GB; I don't think they should opt for +</I>>><i> double-layer DVD's just yet, wouldn't you say? not everyone has a DL +</I>>><i> DVD drive... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Aye, I wasn't suggesting double layer, just saying that DVD installs are way +</I>><i> better than CD for my money. :~) +</I>><i> +</I> +Me too, I've always used the Free DVD. + +>><i> FWIW Fedora has a DVD +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats">http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#formats</A> (one for 32bit +</I>>><i> and one for 64bit). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nice one, thanks! I think I'll give that a go. +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> P.S. Please don't top-post when sending emails to mailing lists: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Mailing_lists_Etiquette_%28Rules%29#Bottom_Post</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> OK. Point taken. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Mind you, I think that "it's much easier to read thing" is very much matter +</I>><i> of taste. I don't think at all that it's a hard and fast rule. Sometimes +</I>><i> it's easier, sometimes (usually) top posting is better [from my +</I>><i> perspective]. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, it's just a convention that bottom-posting is preferred in +mailing lists, i.e. it's the consensus most people agreed on. :) + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1611">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1611">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1611">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1611">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001612.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001612.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..00fe84832 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001612.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292025.51520.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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I've been using it with all the +</I>><i> >> Mandriva ML's for the past 1-2years (web mail via firefox, I didn't +</I>><i> >> use any email clients) and I didn't get any complaints of breaking +</I>><i> >> threads when I post/reply to the ML(s). +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> You see, when sending emails gmail does send the message headers and +</I>><i> >> everything properly. +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Gmail differs in just how it *groups* the received emails in threads +</I>><i> >> (called conversations in the gmail world). The example I gave, about +</I>><i> >> the bugs mailing list, is a good one, when the subject line changes +</I>><i> >> gmail splits the thread (when you reply to an ML thread you're not +</I>><i> >> changing the subject line); an email client would be more thorough and +</I>><i> >> see that it's the same thread even though one word changed in the +</I>><i> >> subject line (bugzilla adds the keyword to the subject line, e.g. +</I>><i> >> NEEDINFO). But that's probably a corner case. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > [...] +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Not to mention that if you're using gmail and you send an email to a +</I>><i> > mailing list, you never know if it was delivered or not, because the +</I>><i> > mail you send is the start of the conversation, you never get your own +</I>><i> > email. If you'd use IMAP on gmail accounts, you'd see it much clearer, +</I>><i> > because instead of conversations, your sent email is in a Sent folder. +</I>><i> > (which sometimes leads to double emails on the list) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I can understand that webbased emails are the best solution for some +</I>><i> > people, but it doesn't have to be gmail; noone is even saying you can't +</I>><i> > for example install a squirrelmail or similar on your home-server. (it's +</I>><i> > an option) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Actually I always find the emails I send to any of the ML's, if I am +</I>><i> the one who started a thread, under "Sent Mail" in Gmail. +</I> +Well, yes, but you didn't find the instance that passed through the mailing +list and got sent back to you. (that one will have different headers (Received +headers and the like). +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001523.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1614">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1614">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1614">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1614">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001615.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001615.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7858ca0a4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001615.html @@ -0,0 +1,138 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiki6upgB8uaBKKM%2BB4a0hVsuTaBq0Lr1Y1T75tW%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001610.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001620.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiki6upgB8uaBKKM%2BB4a0hVsuTaBq0Lr1Y1T75tW%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:39:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 21:06, Richard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Wednesday 29 September 2010 07:23:28 Renaud MICHEL wrote: +</I>>><i> On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 01:47, Richard wrote : +</I>>><i> > Does this mean that I can find the KDE packages which "depend" on Pulse +</I>>><i> > and  re-package them such that Pulse is only "recommended"? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Here (2010.1 x86_64) KDE does not have a dependency on pulse audio. +</I>>><i> Gnome has, because pulseaudio (actually the package is pulseaudio-esound- +</I>>><i> compat) provides esound, which is required by gnome. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Sorry I was so careless in my comment. I was working from memory and those +</I>><i> memories are heavily dosed with frustration and annoyance. What I should have +</I>><i> done is give a concrete example. When I select lib64pulseaudio0 for removal, +</I>><i> rpmdrake lists 526 dependencies (direct and, presumably, indirect) which must +</I>><i> also be removed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Only 39 of these have the string "kde" in the package name, but some of these +</I>><i> are quite central to the operation of KDE; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> kdepasswd-4.4.3 +</I>><i> kdenetwork4-core-4.4.3 +</I>><i> kdemultimedia4-core-4.4.3 +</I>><i> kdegraphics4-core-4.4.3 +</I>><i> kdegames4-core-4.4.3 +</I>><i> kdeutils4-core-4.4.3 +</I>><i> kdelibs4-core-4.4.3 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ...for example. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Many many more are kde applications. This is 2010.1 x86_64 +</I> +Yes, it's a bit on an indirect dependency phonon requires libpulse.so: +$ urpmf --requires lib64phonon4 | grep pulse +lib64phonon4:libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0()(64bit) +lib64phonon4:libpulse.so.0()(64bit) + +and of course removing phonon would remove many more kde4 packages. + +>><i> +</I>>><i> Anyway, you can simply disable pulseaudio from the control center, so it is +</I>>><i> not a problem to have the package still lying around. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That is, of course, the first thing I do when installing new systems. I don't +</I>><i> think that I can agree that it is not a problem for me to have all of this +</I>><i> Pulse stuff lying around. I find it quite tricky enough to get all required +</I>><i> applications working as I want them without having to worry about whether +</I>><i> something somewhere thinks it can still use Pulse because the support files +</I>><i> are still present. +</I>><i> +</I> +Don't worry, disabling pulse really disables it, the relevant config +files are edited properly... etc + +You see the problem here, for phonon to have pulse support it must be +built against it, so you can't remove libpulse.so. (that same for e.g. +mplayer, to have pulse support it must be built against pulse, but +disabling pulse and/or selecting another audio output driver will make +it not use pulse). + +As misc said a couple of days ago, this is always the case when having +support for a feature must be done at package compilation time, this +adds a hard requires on some other packages, in this case pulse. i.e. +you can't have phonon (or mplayer) use pulse otherwise. + +><i> Worse still are the applications which presume Pulse must be present and are +</I>><i> configured with that incorrect default assumption, but that's another gripe +</I>><i> for another place. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Richard +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Which apps? if you rpm -e --nodeps a lib package, it's logical that an +binary that has a dep on that package will not work as it'll won't +find it at startup, even if it's not going to really use it (mplayer +example applies here too). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1615">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1615">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1615">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1615">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001616.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001616.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4b387a81a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001616.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikfA-SyRHfYfG7uDCYu6tDjERLv-y%2B471-rtxc0%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001613.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001619.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikfA-SyRHfYfG7uDCYu6tDjERLv-y%2B471-rtxc0%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:44:09 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1616">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1616">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1616">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1616">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 21:36, JPB <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jpierre.benoit at free.fr</A>> wrote: +><i> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010, Ahmad Samir a écrit : +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > Aye, I wasn't suggesting double layer, just saying that DVD installs are +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> > way better than CD for my money. :~) +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Me too, I've always used the Free DVD. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Why not reduce the number of install media and build a ONE DVD ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> JPB +</I> +How much RAM would a Live DVD need to run smoothly? note that +everything is run in the RAM with live discs. + +Also, the One CD's are mostly considered as a way to give a distro a +test drive, it's a bonus that we can install it... + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1616">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1616">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1616">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1616">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001617.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001617.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1027500d0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001617.html @@ -0,0 +1,77 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimtyXFOmvoi-ur6Aq2QDnLj2kTkA1vRem%3DEA15m%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001602.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001601.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimtyXFOmvoi-ur6Aq2QDnLj2kTkA1vRem%3DEA15m%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:45:52 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001601.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1617">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1617">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1617">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1617">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 20:36, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> 2010/9/29 Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>>: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I guess this'll only work for registered users on mandrivauser.de: +</I>>><i> "Du hast keine Berechtigung, diesen Dateianhang herunterzuladen." +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes.sorry for that. I should have published it on our news portal - +</I>><i> will remember this when we will pass 1 million Euros. +</I>><i> +</I> +\o/ + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001601.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1617">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1617">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1617">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1617">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001618.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001618.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f2fc6223a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001618.html @@ -0,0 +1,130 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201009300700.22846.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001578.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001554.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201009300700.22846.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:00:22 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 03:51:14 Romain d'Alverny wrote: +><i> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 16:42, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:12 +0200, Thorsten van Lil a écrit : +</I>><i> >> [...] +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> > As I said in the past, we do not want to create a mailling list for +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> > every possible group on the wiki : +</I>><i> >> For sure but I think a list for design, marketing, official +</I>><i> >> communication and maybe web developer couldn't be wrong. +</I>><i> >> I mean one list for those groups. Because they have to work close +</I>><i> >> together and there is (or will be) an extra marketing team around Graham +</I>><i> >> (afaik). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Yup, I would agree, as I said in the past. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But your example of web team is one example of the issue we have : +</I>><i> > [...] +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The same goes for marketing vs communication vs design. While there is +</I>><i> > clear area for them, there is lots of similarity ( except that I am +</I>><i> > quite a novice in such domain, so I cannot give example ). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > So a simple thing like "how do we name the team", and "how do we ensure +</I>><i> > that people in a team are correctly represented" can be tricky. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Indeed. Moreover, we will need to make "apparently of somehow +</I>><i> diverging interest" teams work together, by pair, on several runs. +</I>><i> This will help all teams to get to know each other and work better +</I>><i> together. An example some Mozilla people suggested me is: making the +</I>><i> marketing and developers teams collaborate to recruit/improve their +</I>><i> beta-testers population (it benefits developers team and it requires +</I>><i> marketing insights for that). You can imagine a lot of cooperation +</I>><i> tasks like this. +</I> +Indeed, an excellent idea, however marketing and developers should work +alongside on many more levels than just that: Vision, User Experience, Art, +packaging, design and so on. + +><i> +</I>><i> There, it would help to have more atomic mailing-lists (per specialty) +</I>><i> but some other tool, empowering more cross-teams collaborations or +</I>><i> ad-hoc teams setups (mailing-list may not be the right solution here, +</I>><i> not sure what at this time). +</I> +At this time mailing lists are the simplest. Mailing lists should be task +oriented and people belong to those that they need to, to facilitate specific +tasks. Marketing people should belong to: Art, Dev, User Experience and +marketing. The management of peoples ML interaction should not be up to the +server, but be managed by the individual on their personal machines. How they +do that is up to them, but MLs give the user multiple management options. +Either through an ordinary pop account,Gmail, gmane etc. Multiple task +oriented mail lists give people many more options. + +><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I> +Cheers +GL + +-- +Graham Lauder, +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> + +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. + +INGOTs Assessor Trainer +(International Grades in Open Technologies) +www.theingots.org +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1618">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1618">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1618">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1618">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001619.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001619.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7e7924354 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001619.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292108.40791.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001616.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001529.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>JPB</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292108.40791.jpierre.benoit%40free.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">jpierre.benoit at free.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 21:08:40 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010, Ahmad Samir a écrit : +><i> > Why not reduce the number of install media and build a ONE DVD ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > JPB +</I>><i> +</I>><i> How much RAM would a Live DVD need to run smoothly? note that +</I>><i> everything is run in the RAM with live discs. +</I>If we run the same applications, why should it needs more ram than a live CD ? +><i> +</I>><i> Also, the One CD's are mostly considered as a way to give a distro a +</I>><i> test drive, it's a bonus that we can install it... +</I>A much needed bonus if we need to "compete" with other distro ! +And we will get rid of a lot problems you got when installing from a ONE CD. +><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Ahmad Samir +</I> +JPB +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/a27bfbec/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1619">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1619">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1619">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1619">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001620.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001620.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4df476829 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001620.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292112.23851.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001615.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001621.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Renaud MICHEL</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292112.23851.r.h.michel%2Bmageia%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 21:12:23 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1620">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1620">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1620">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1620">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 20:39, Ahmad Samir wrote : +><i> > Many many more are kde applications. This is 2010.1 x86_64 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, it's a bit on an indirect dependency phonon requires libpulse.so: +</I>><i> $ urpmf --requires lib64phonon4 | grep pulse +</I>><i> lib64phonon4:libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0()(64bit) +</I>><i> lib64phonon4:libpulse.so.0()(64bit) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> and of course removing phonon would remove many more kde4 packages. +</I> +But those dependencies are provided by +lib64pulseaudio0 +lib64pulseglib20 +so you can uninstall the daemon (pulseaudio) and keep those libraries for +the packages that need them. + +The gnome part is more tricky, because gnome requires esound, which is +provided by pulseaudio-esound-compat (which requires pulseaudio daemon), and +you don't have anymore a real esound packaged anymore, so you would need to +get a package from an older mandriva. + +-- +Renaud Michel +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1620">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1620">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1620">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1620">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001621.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001621.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ed8149e62 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001621.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinbjof2HQa%3Dduekn0Pg%2B5AjSwR7GVfe%2ByxuF9fc%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001620.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001625.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinbjof2HQa%3Dduekn0Pg%2B5AjSwR7GVfe%2ByxuF9fc%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 21:16:51 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1621">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1621">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1621">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1621">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 22:12, Renaud MICHEL <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">r.h.michel+mageia at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On mercredi 29 septembre 2010 at 20:39, Ahmad Samir wrote : +</I>>><i> > Many many more are kde applications. This is 2010.1 x86_64 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, it's a bit on an indirect dependency phonon requires libpulse.so: +</I>>><i> $ urpmf --requires lib64phonon4 | grep pulse +</I>>><i> lib64phonon4:libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0()(64bit) +</I>>><i> lib64phonon4:libpulse.so.0()(64bit) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> and of course removing phonon would remove many more kde4 packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But those dependencies are provided by +</I>><i> lib64pulseaudio0 +</I>><i> lib64pulseglib20 +</I>><i> so you can uninstall the daemon (pulseaudio) and keep those libraries for +</I>><i> the packages that need them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The gnome part is more tricky, because gnome requires esound, which is +</I>><i> provided by pulseaudio-esound-compat (which requires pulseaudio daemon), and +</I>><i> you don't have anymore a real esound packaged anymore, so you would need to +</I>><i> get a package from an older mandriva. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Renaud Michel +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, you're right about esound. + +And if pulseaudio is disabled you get no sound applet in the gnome panel. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1621">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1621">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1621">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1621">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001622.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001622.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bbaf5a82c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001622.html @@ -0,0 +1,108 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimazQz-Ztq8UoefX3fr6-wn7cYMxtq1AX0F1V%2BG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001609.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001626.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimazQz-Ztq8UoefX3fr6-wn7cYMxtq1AX0F1V%2BG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">ajunior at brasifort.com.br + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 21:21:45 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1622">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1622">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1622">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1622">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Need help with Blogs? I'm here! +I can help in "pt_br" and "en" blogs. + +Júnior + +2010/9/29 Damien Lallement <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at damsweb.net</A>> + +><i> Hello boys and girls, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you know, we are working on the localization of the Mageia Blog. +</I>><i> I'm looking for volunteers to join the Blog Team (BT). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is the role of the Blog Team? +</I>><i> - Manage blogs ; +</I>><i> - Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +</I>><i> - Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team and +</I>><i> the other related teams) ; +</I>><i> - Translate content from the EN blog ; +</I>><i> - Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +</I>><i> - Inform the project and needed people about important comments or remarks +</I>><i> in the threads of a blog ; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the process +</I>><i> to follow for each tasks asked. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +</I>><i> default). +</I>><i> If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this thread to +</I>><i> ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you will be in +</I>><i> charge of it! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> Damien Lallement +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/ea3f8572/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1622">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1622">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1622">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1622">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001623.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001623.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d1c0c8bb1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001623.html @@ -0,0 +1,135 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201009300723.27287.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001576.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001551.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!</H1> + <B>Graham Lauder</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20we%20need%20a%20NEW%20mageia-artwork%20MAILING%20LIST%21%21&In-Reply-To=%3C201009300723.27287.yorick_%40openoffice.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!!">yorick_ at openoffice.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 20:23:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001551.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1623">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1623">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1623">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1623">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 03:43:58 Romain d'Alverny wrote: +><i> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 14:42, Michael Scherer <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">misc at zarb.org</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Oh, and I forgot, before doing a poll, I think we need to select logo +</I>><i> > according to some criterias : +</I>><i> > [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Could you review and complete +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A> with those you added? I'll +</I>><i> have some to insert as well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > - see how trademark issue will be handled, this not decided yet, and +</I>><i> > that's quite a sensitive topic, as you need to be permissive and +</I>><i> > protective in the same time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Rights on artwork will have to be transmitted to the association, +</I>><i> which will register the logo as a trademark. Precisely because that's +</I>><i> a sensitive thing indeed. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > And I am sure that experienced designers may add some others +</I>><i> > requirements to this. There is a page about this +</I>><i> > <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=artguide</A> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And once everything is cleared, if there is some logos left, then we +</I>><i> > could proceed to a poll. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > But I think that a poll will open a lot of questions : who can express +</I>><i> > their opinion, what guarantees will we have it to not be hijacked ( as +</I>><i> > could doodle be ), how do we ensure a representative choice ? +</I>><i> > Ie, if we ask on people on this list, are we sure to have a logo that +</I>><i> > would please everyone else ? Do we want to ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Obviously a poll can be indicative, but decision in last resort will +</I>><i> be somewhere between the founding board and the community +</I>><i> council/board (more to come about this, very soon). Because a logo is +</I>><i> not only a like/don't like thing and it should fit the destination of +</I>><i> the project in the long term. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cheers, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I> +With regard to Logo selection any poll of the community must only include Logo +proposals that fit within a predetermined selection criteria. + +a) It offends NOONE +b) It is scaleable: ie instantly recognisable at any size from 16px to > A1 +c) It is unique +d) It is attractive to the TARGET MARKET +e) Ideally but not compulsorily can be easily adjusted to suit different +markets +f) Fits within branding guidelines +g) Fits branding guidelines +h) Fits branding +I) Fits + +It would be nice if it told a story, but until we figure out our brand, there +is NO story. The logo is a single part of a holistic picture and it has to +fit that landscape along with pallets, fonts, vision and so on. + +Please can the community develop a pallet and a brand strategy first, then we +find a logo that fits that. + +I have a suggestion for a target market and for that I'm going to start +another thread. + +Cheers +GL + +-- +Graham Lauder, +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ +<A HREF="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</A> + +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant. + +INGOTs Assessor Trainer +(International Grades in Open Technologies) +www.theingots.org +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001551.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1623">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1623">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1623">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1623">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001624.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001624.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4eaf3806a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001624.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA393EE.2090406%40marneau.eu%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Foobillard is a wonderful snooker/billiards/pool game. Just +like the real thing it is also a great way to waste a few hours in the +evening. With the 2010.1 package it is now possible to do this in complete +silence. Sorry, not "possible" because it is now inevitable on a PC which is +not using Pulse. + +It took me a couple of months of exploring and testing before I stumbled on +thge cause of the problem. The 2010.1 package (not the 2010.0 one; it +performs in glorious stereocolour) has been "enhanced" by the packager in a +way which introduces a Pulse dependency. When I found the offending script I +realised it could be fixed by deleting all but the last line. Now foobillard +shouts out loud and clear in pure Alsa. Whoopee. Tokk a long time to sort out +though, and I didn't get the clue until I had deleted all traces of Pulse. + +I'm not smart enough to do it any other way. As long as I know I have no trace +of pulse on the machine I can better focus on getting stuff to work. Unlike +you, I cannot KNOW that disabling Pulse is enough. I can only BELIEVE it, and +I don't have enough faith for that yet. + +Richard + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1625">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1625">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1625">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1625">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001626.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001626.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..97d77b79c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001626.html @@ -0,0 +1,100 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292138.05010.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001622.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001639.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Marcello Anni</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292138.05010.marcello.anni%40alice.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">marcello.anni at alice.it + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 21:38:04 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1626">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1626">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1626">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1626">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>><i> Hello boys and girls, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you know, we are working on the localization of the Mageia Blog. +</I>><i> I'm looking for volunteers to join the Blog Team (BT). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is the role of the Blog Team? +</I>><i> - Manage blogs ; +</I>><i> - Manage comments (moderate, validate...) ; +</I>><i> - Publish content (in coordination with the BT, the Communication Team +</I>><i> and the other related teams) ; +</I>><i> - Translate content from the EN blog ; +</I>><i> - Spread the birth of the localized blogs ; +</I>><i> - Inform the project and needed people about important comments or +</I>><i> remarks in the threads of a blog ; +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I will soon publish a wiki entry about the rules of the BT and the +</I>><i> process to follow for each tasks asked. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the moment, the blogs are: de/ es/ fr/ it/ pt_br/ ru/ (and "en" by +</I>><i> default). +</I>><i> If you want to see a new language or locale, just answer on this thread +</I>><i> to ask/propose a new one. Beware, if you ask for a new one, you will be +</I>><i> in charge of it! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> So, let's go to apply. :-) +</I> +i can propose my help for the italian blog, better together with another (one +or more) person (because for study reason sometimes i'm not available). + + +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1626">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1626">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1626">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1626">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001627.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001627.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9acd9a87d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001627.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Package management system + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikk7dC7xyhaXYQ4HD%2BNDbTn0jtaqXTiBNGJpV4U%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001625.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001515.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Package management system</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Package%20management%20system&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikk7dC7xyhaXYQ4HD%2BNDbTn0jtaqXTiBNGJpV4U%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Package management system">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 21:45:17 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1627">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1627">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1627">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1627">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 29 September 2010 22:40, Richard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Wednesday 29 September 2010 19:39:51 Ahmad Samir wrote: +</I>>><i> Which apps? if you rpm -e --nodeps a lib package, it's logical that an +</I>>><i> binary that has a dep on that package will not work as it'll won't +</I>>><i> find it at startup, even if it's not going to really use it (mplayer +</I>>><i> example applies here too). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, Ahmad, I don't go looking for problem apps, but I surely know when I +</I>><i> have found one. Foobillard is a wonderful snooker/billiards/pool game. Just +</I>><i> like the real thing it is also a great way to waste a few hours in the +</I>><i> evening. With the 2010.1 package it is now possible to do this in complete +</I>><i> silence. Sorry, not "possible" because it is now inevitable on a PC which is +</I>><i> not using Pulse. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It took me a couple of months of exploring and testing before I stumbled on +</I>><i> thge cause of the problem. The 2010.1 package (not the 2010.0 one; it +</I>><i> performs in glorious stereocolour) has been "enhanced" by the packager in a +</I>><i> way which introduces a Pulse dependency. When I found the offending script I +</I>><i> realised it could be fixed by deleting all but the last line. Now foobillard +</I>><i> shouts out loud and clear in pure Alsa. Whoopee. Tokk a long time to sort out +</I>><i> though, and I didn't get the clue until I had deleted  all traces of Pulse. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm not smart enough to do it any other way. As long as I know I have no trace +</I>><i> of pulse on the machine I can better focus on getting stuff to work. Unlike +</I>><i> you, I cannot KNOW that disabling Pulse is enough. I can only BELIEVE it, and +</I>><i> I don't have enough faith for that yet. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Richard +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, I think you should have also filed a bug report about that package... + +(I am going off-topic, sorry about that). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1627">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1627">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1627">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1627">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001628.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001628.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..799571578 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001628.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20keep%20on%20donate%20or%20AUFML%20full%20transparency&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292218.27378.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001639.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001631.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency</H1> + <B>Olivier Méjean</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20keep%20on%20donate%20or%20AUFML%20full%20transparency&In-Reply-To=%3C201009292218.27378.omejean%40yahoo.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency">omejean at yahoo.fr + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 22:18:27 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001631.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1628">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1628">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1628">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1628">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello there !! + +Following my previous news about donation, on friday, let's refresh them ! + +About paypal, you may have noticed that our paypal account has been limited. +Yes, guys, it was your fault !!! You were so in hurry to give to mageia +project that paypal asked us some informations. I phoned paypal, i sent paypal +many documents, our vice-treasurer's phoned paypal and yesterday we were +pleased to know that our paypal account was verified so no more limitation, we +can overtake the limit of 2000€, and it is overtaken. + +While talking about paypal, you know that paypal take a commission on each +donation. A the moment, donations arise at 2972.79€ but commission removed the +donations are 2851.9€, a bit more than 4% of commission (well the real +commission of a fixed amount plus a percentage of the amount). Donations using +paypal are ranging from 3 to 500€ + +Bank transfert allows to get 1810€ and bank check 75€, to give 4736.9€ + + +The announcement is translated into 10 languages, good job but i guess Maât, +who's in charge of the page, is underemployed so let's get him some nice job +by adding new languages! For example, what about greek , finnish, swedish (or +norvegian?), russian, chinese, serbian announcements? Yes !! So translators, +have a look at <A HREF="http://donate.mageia.org/">http://donate.mageia.org/</A> translate it and send it and Maât +will be very happy to add new languages. Oh by the way, if there is another +language I did not talk about, feel free to translate too! To end with, Maât +you are really a nice guy ;-), dear members of Mageia don't forget to +congratulate him, he likes it :þ + +We are still waiting for the creation of Mageia association and the bank +account to give the donations to Mageia. I guess it will take some days, but +no problem for us, we will still be happy to help receiving donations. + +I was about to forget, as Maât said in a previous mail, « Mageia IS definetely +the answer to the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, +The Universe, and Everything » + +<<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe_and_Everything_.2842.29">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything#Answer_to_the_Ultimate_Question_of_Life.2C_the_Universe_and_Everything_.2842.29</A>> + +<<A HREF="http://download.tuxfamily.org/cooker/mageia/stats/Capture-">http://download.tuxfamily.org/cooker/mageia/stats/Capture-</A> +DonationMageia424242.png> + +I stop here, next step 10,000€ ? 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Ok ? +</I> +Think BIG! 100K is the next stop. We are riding a fast train, don't we? + +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001628.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001633.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1631">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1631">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1631">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1631">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001632.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001632.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3a9a90514 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001632.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20IS%20definetely%20the%20answer&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3A487.4080303%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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However, I'm available to +do small translations. + + + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1635">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1635">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1635">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1635">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001636.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001636.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5d366a7ee --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001636.html @@ -0,0 +1,96 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimozF%2BHxR%3D70r-hOri%3DCznP12eHwj_CpN9yVm9P%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001635.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001640.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Filipe Saraiva</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimozF%2BHxR%3D70r-hOri%3DCznP12eHwj_CpN9yVm9P%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">filip.saraiva at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 22:58:55 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1636">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1636">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1636">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1636">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hello André, + +We can do this work together, since it does not have much time available. +What do you think? + +Em 29 de setembro de 2010 17:54, André Machado <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">afmachado at dcemail.com</A>>escreveu: + +><i> +</I>><i> > 2010/9/29 Damien Lallement <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia at ...</A>>: +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > To summarize, we need translators and moderators for each blog. +</I>><i> > > So, let's go to apply. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'd love to join the PT_BR team translation, since I already translated the +</I>><i> donation page for this language, but I have some commitments to college, +</I>><i> I'll +</I>><i> pass the ball to whoever has the readiness to blog on. However, I'm +</I>><i> available to +</I>><i> do small translations. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- +Filipe Saraiva +************************************** +Meu blog: <A HREF="http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/">http://www.liberdadenafronteira.blogspot.com/</A> + +Associação Piauiense de Software Livre +Projeto Software Livre - Piauí - PSL-PI + +“Você deve ser a mudança que deseja ver no mundo.” - Gandhi +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/df749075/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1636">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1636">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1636">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1636">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001637.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001637.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..607ab76ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001637.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3Ci809dg%2462r%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001598.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001638.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Adrian Marcinkowski</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3Ci809dg%2462r%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">amfidiusz at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 23:00:31 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1637">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1637">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1637">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1637">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>W dniu 2010-09-29 19:17, Ireneusz Gierlach pisze: +><i> I would love to see the PL (Polish) blog. +</I>><i> I can also help out with the EN version :) +</I> +I can help out with the Polish version. I have already finished +translating all the entries but nobody could tell me where to submit them. + +Regards, +Adrian + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1637">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1637">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1637">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1637">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001638.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001638.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d2ef45349 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001638.html @@ -0,0 +1,84 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim531Y%2B2M30T7qEgN6JS-_rfLJw4dkbjODXx8-X%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="001637.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="001594.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)</H1> + <B>Domingos Teruel</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%09...%29&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim531Y%2B2M30T7qEgN6JS-_rfLJw4dkbjODXx8-X%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...)">mingomax at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Sep 29 23:05:49 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1638">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1638">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1638">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1638">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, besides the translation can help with the blog. I didn't found where + put the name on the Wiki, by the way in which topics arise. + +On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Adrian Marcinkowski <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">amfidiusz at gmail.com</A>>wrote: + +><i> W dniu 2010-09-29 19:17, Ireneusz Gierlach pisze: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would love to see the PL (Polish) blog. +</I>>><i> I can also help out with the EN version :) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I can help out with the Polish version. I have already finished translating +</I>><i> all the entries but nobody could tell me where to submit them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I>><i> Adrian +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> + +-- +Mingo ++55 11 7141 2357 (Vivo) +BlackBerry Device (9000 Bold OS 4.6) +São Paulo +Desenvolvedor Web +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20100929/166ba36c/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1638">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1638">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1638">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1638">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001639.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001639.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ced198a7b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/001639.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Join%20the%20Blog%20Team%20%28translate%2C%20post%2C%20moderate%2C%0A%20...%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4CA3AAFF.9020003%40yahoo.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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If we divide task - and in some mounths +I'll be in vacations \o/ I can help, yes. + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="001636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="001605.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#1640">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#1640">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#1640">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#1640">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9c0030e4d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,687 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 29 September 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>29 September 2010 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 00:16:41 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 128<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1537"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1538"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001571.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1571"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1626"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1536"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1550"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001563.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1563"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1602"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1604"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001631.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1631"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1634"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1549"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1597"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1603"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001607.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1607"> </A> +<I>Sandro Cazzaniga +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1530"> </A> +<I>P. 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+</A><A NAME="1618"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1623"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1515"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001552.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1552"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1558"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1524"> </A> +<I>Lirodon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1514"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1529"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1586"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1620"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001633.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1633"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1635"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1640"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1637"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1543"> </A> +<I>Margot +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! 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+</A><A NAME="1539"> </A> +<I>Matthieu P +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1533"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1512"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1518"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1520"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1522"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1610"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1625"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001523.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1523"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1580"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001581.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1581"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001584.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1584"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1585"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1600"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1611"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1615"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1616"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1617"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1621"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1609"> </A> +<I>Filipe Saraiva +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1636"> </A> +<I>Filipe Saraiva +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1513"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001516.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1516"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1540"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1542"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1544"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001545.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1545"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1547"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1554"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1556"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001575.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1575"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001577.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1577"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1599"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1528"> </A> +<I>Henri de Solages +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1595"> </A> +<I>Domingos Teruel +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1638"> </A> +<I>Domingos Teruel +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001561.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1561"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1612"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001614.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1614"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1582"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1590"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1592"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1593"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001568.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1568"> </A> +<I>Erwien Samantha Y +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1579"> </A> +<I>Erwien Samantha Y +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1576"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1578"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001553.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1553"> </A> +<I>yvan munoz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001555.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1555"> </A> +<I>rom1dep +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1589"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:44:05 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/date.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bf8427dd0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/date.html @@ -0,0 +1,687 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 29 September 2010 Archive by date</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>29 September 2010 Archives by date</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 00:16:41 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 128<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1512"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1515"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1513"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1514"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001516.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1516"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure +</A><A NAME="1517"> </A> +<I>ForumAdmin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1518"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1520"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1521"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1522"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001523.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1523"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1524"> </A> +<I>Lirodon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1525"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Openoffice forked into LibreOffice +</A><A NAME="1526"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001527.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1527"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1528"> </A> +<I>Henri de Solages +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1529"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1530"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1531"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1532"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1533"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1534"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1535"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1536"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1537"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1538"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001539.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1539"> </A> +<I>Matthieu P +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1540"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1541"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1542"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1543"> </A> +<I>Margot +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1544"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001545.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1545"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1546"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1547"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1548"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1549"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1550"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001551.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1551"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001552.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1552"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001553.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1553"> </A> +<I>yvan munoz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1554"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001555.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1555"> </A> +<I>rom1dep +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1556"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001557.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1557"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1558"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001559.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1559"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001566.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1566"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001562.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1562"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001560.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1560"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001561.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1561"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001563.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1563"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001564.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1564"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001565.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1565"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001567.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1567"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001568.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1568"> </A> +<I>Erwien Samantha Y +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001569.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1569"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1570"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001571.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1571"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001572.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1572"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001573.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1573"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001574.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1574"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001575.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1575"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1576"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001577.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1577"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1578"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1579"> </A> +<I>Erwien Samantha Y +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1580"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001581.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1581"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1582"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001583.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1583"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001584.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1584"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1588"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1585"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1586"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001587.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1587"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1589"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1590"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001591.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1591"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1592"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1594"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1593"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1595"> </A> +<I>Domingos Teruel +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001596.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1596"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001598.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1598"> </A> +<I>Damien Lallement +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001599.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1599"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1597"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1600"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001601.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1601"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1602"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001604.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1604"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1603"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A 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+<LI><A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1623"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1611"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1612"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1613"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001614.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1614"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1615"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1616"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1617"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1619"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1620"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1621"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001622.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1622"> </A> +<I>Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001624.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1624"> </A> +<I>Lucien-Henry Horvath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001626.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1626"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1625"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001628.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1628"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1629"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001630.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1630"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001631.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1631"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001633.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1633"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1632"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1634"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001635.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1635"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001636.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1636"> </A> +<I>Filipe Saraiva +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001637.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1637"> </A> +<I>Adrian Marcinkowski +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001638.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1638"> </A> +<I>Domingos Teruel +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001639.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1639"> </A> +<I>Matteo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001640.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1640"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 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<b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 128<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="001563.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1563"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001565.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1565"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001581.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1581"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001583.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1583"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001584.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1584"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001559.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1559"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001630.html">[Mageia-discuss] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct +</A><A NAME="1630"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001561.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1561"> </A> +<I>Tux99 +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001564.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1564"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001568.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1568"> </A> +<I>Erwien Samantha Y +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001569.html">[Mageia-discuss] [Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1569"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001594.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1594"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001595.html">[Mageia-discuss] Join the Blog Team (translate, post, moderate, ...) +</A><A NAME="1595"> </A> +<I>Domingos Teruel +</I> + +<LI><A 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+</A><A NAME="1639"> </A> +<I>Matteo +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001628.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1628"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001631.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1631"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001633.html">[Mageia-discuss] keep on donate or AUFML full transparency +</A><A NAME="1633"> </A> +<I>André Machado +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001560.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1560"> </A> +<I>Maât +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001570.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1570"> </A> +<I>Olivier Méjean +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001573.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1573"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001574.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1574"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001579.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1579"> </A> +<I>Erwien Samantha Y +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001589.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1589"> </A> +<I>nicolas vigier +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001597.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1597"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001600.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1600"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001601.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1601"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001602.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1602"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001603.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1603"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001612.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1612"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001617.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1617"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001629.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1629"> </A> +<I>Dick Gevers +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001632.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1632"> </A> +<I>DjeZAeL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001634.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia IS definetely the answer +</A><A NAME="1634"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001521.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1521"> </A> +<I>Dale Huckeby +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001522.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1522"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001551.html">[Mageia-discuss] Modern Simplistic Logo Proposal +</A><A NAME="1551"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001526.html">[Mageia-discuss] Openoffice forked into LibreOffice +</A><A NAME="1526"> </A> +<I>You-Cheng Hsieh +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001555.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1555"> </A> +<I>rom1dep +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001562.html">[Mageia-discuss] Other logo proposal +</A><A NAME="1562"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1512"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001515.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1515"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1513"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1514"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001516.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1516"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1518"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1520"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1524"> </A> +<I>Lirodon +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001527.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1527"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001529.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1529"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001531.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1531"> </A> +<I>Mihai Dobrescu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1532"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001533.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1533"> </A> +<I>Jerome Quelin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001534.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1534"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001535.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1535"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001536.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1536"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1544"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1546"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1547"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001552.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1552"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001553.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1553"> </A> +<I>yvan munoz +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001556.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1556"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001557.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1557"> </A> +<I>Per Øyvind Karlsen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1580"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1582"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1588"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001585.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1585"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001586.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1586"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001590.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1590"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1592"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001593.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1593"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1610"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001611.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1611"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001613.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1613"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001615.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1615"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001616.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1616"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001619.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1619"> </A> +<I>JPB +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001620.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1620"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001621.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1621"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001625.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1625"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001627.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1627"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001525.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1525"> </A> +<I>Ireneusz Gierlach +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001542.html">[Mageia-discuss] Question about the fork. +</A><A NAME="1542"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001517.html">[Mageia-discuss] Translation -structure +</A><A NAME="1517"> </A> +<I>ForumAdmin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001538.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1538"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001539.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1539"> </A> +<I>Matthieu P +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001541.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1541"> </A> +<I>Lombard Marianne +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001545.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1545"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001554.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1554"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001558.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1558"> </A> +<I>Thorsten van Lil +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001566.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1566"> </A> +<I>Dubeau, Patrick +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001567.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1567"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001571.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1571"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001572.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1572"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001575.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1575"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001576.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1576"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001577.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1577"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001578.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1578"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001618.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1618"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001623.html">[Mageia-discuss] we need a NEW mageia-artwork MAILING LIST!! +</A><A NAME="1623"> </A> +<I>Graham Lauder +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001523.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1523"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001614.html">[Mageia-discuss] who knows about site mageia-br? +</A><A NAME="1614"> </A> +<I>Maarten Vanraes +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001528.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1528"> </A> +<I>Henri de Solages +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001530.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1530"> </A> +<I>P. Christeas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001537.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1537"> </A> +<I>Marcello Anni +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001540.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1540"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001543.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1543"> </A> +<I>Margot +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001548.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1548"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001549.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1549"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="001550.html">[Mageia-discuss] Will Mageia meet small businesses' needs? +</A><A NAME="1550"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:44:05 CEST 2010</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..809438f80 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20100929/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,907 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 29 September 2010 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>29 September 2010 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 00:16:41 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Sep 29 23:43:50 CEST 2010</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 128<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01285712201- --> +<LI><A HREF="001512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1512"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01285712201-01285713656- --> +<LI><A HREF="001513.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1513"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285712201-01285713656-01285716355- --> +<LI><A HREF="001518.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1518"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +</UL> +<!--1 01285712201-01285713741- --> +<LI><A HREF="001514.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1514"> </A> +<I>Renaud MICHEL +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650- --> +<LI><A HREF="001520.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1520"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794- --> +<LI><A HREF="001524.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1524"> </A> +<I>Lirodon +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656- --> +<LI><A HREF="001527.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1527"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477- --> +<LI><A HREF="001544.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1544"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924- --> +<LI><A HREF="001546.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1546"> </A> +<I>Kira +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870- --> +<LI><A HREF="001547.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1547"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870-01285762284- --> +<LI><A HREF="001552.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1552"> </A> +<I>Morgan Leijström +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870-01285762284-01285762636- --> +<LI><A HREF="001553.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1553"> </A> +<I>yvan munoz +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870-01285762284-01285776995- --> +<LI><A HREF="001580.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1580"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870-01285762284-01285776995-01285777726- --> +<LI><A HREF="001582.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1582"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870-01285762284-01285776995-01285777726-01285779566- --> +<LI><A HREF="001588.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1588"> </A> +<I>Gustavo Giampaoli +</I> + +<!--3 01285712201-01285713741-01285717650-01285724794-01285728656-01285753477-01285753924-01285754870-01285762284-01285776995-01285777726-01285779566-01285780641- --> +<LI><A HREF="001592.html">[Mageia-discuss] Package management system +</A><A NAME="1592"> </A> +<I>Robert Wood +</I> + +<!--3 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