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Goodwill and trust +are key. + +There are still many things to sort out. Exciting. :-) + +Romain + +On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 18:30, vfmBOFH <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">vfmbofh at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2010/9/21 Tux99 <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, vfmBOFH wrote: +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Similar to the (failed) mandriva assembly, huh? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > I think it can be a good scheme. And comes with some "extras" like +</I>>><i> > localized +</I>>><i> > communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton, +</I>>><i> > and +</I>>><i> > turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme +</I>>><i> > sucess, +</I>>><i> > transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are +</I>>><i> > guaranteed. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest +</I>>><i> to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed +</I>>><i> and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with +</I>>><i> so called local community representatives that have special rights or +</I>>><i> influence. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some +</I>>><i> local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the +</I>>><i> opinions of the members of their community. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives +</I>>><i> as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their +</I>>><i> communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant +</I>>><i> information and manage their local forums, events etc. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there +</I>>><i> should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on +</I>>><i> the internet. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I did not say that representatives are decison makers. As its position +</I>><i> indicates, they "represent" their respective communities. Their vote (or +</I>><i> decision) *must* be their communities one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On the other hand, if every aspect of the distro should be voted on by each +</I>><i> and every one of its users, the process of implementing a change would be +</I>><i> too slow for what we are accustomed. I do not see the community voting en +</I>><i> masse (and agreeing!) On every aspect of the distro. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The "central hub" should be seen as a "parliament", where users (who have +</I>><i> previously elected their representatives) are represented. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>><i> Mageia-discuss mailing list +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I></PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000501.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000512.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#508">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#508">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#508">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#508">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |