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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@colin.guthr.ie">mageia@colin.guthr.ie</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+&#39;Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:<br>
+<div><div class="h5">&gt; On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello!<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can&#39;t<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; NO.<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; As stated a million times before...<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; qt3 is obsolete<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB<br>
+&gt; Sad..<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt; Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.<br>
+&gt; Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced<br>
+&gt; Mageia on a dozen of machines) can&#39;t switch the next dozen because of<br>
+&gt; lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</a> ), the other can&#39;t use his<br>
+&gt; favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced<br>
+&gt; to use Fedora or KDE4.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If the &quot;obsolete&quot; part is the only reason, then it&#39;s not too strong..<br>
+&gt; the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance<br>
+&gt; of Qt3.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;     This means we are the new &quot;upstream&quot; location for up-to-date Qt3<br>
+&gt; source code.<br>
+&gt;     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from<br>
+&gt; Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches<br>
+&gt; floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.<br>
+&gt;     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3<br>
+&gt; outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location<br>
+&gt; for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to<br>
+&gt; submit code to.<br>
+&gt;     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is<br>
+&gt; licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not<br>
+&gt; use these versions in their proprietary projects.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3" target="_blank">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</a><br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for<br>
+&gt; the main distros.<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source<br>
+software gives people freedoms and that&#39;s good, but it doesn&#39;t stop them<br>
+making bad decisions.<br>
+<br>
+Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing<br>
+it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would<br>
+port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.<br></blockquote><div> </div><div>Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface. Don&#39;t quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in many areas.<br>
+<br>It&#39;s all POV... I wouldn&#39;t call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a sense I agree with you in that it doesn&#39;t stop a group of ppl from making a long set of bad decisions....<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+Col<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+<br>
+Colin Guthrie<br>
+colin(at)<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="http://colin.guthr.ie/" target="_blank">http://colin.guthr.ie/</a><br>
+<br>
+Day Job:<br>
+  Tribalogic Limited <a href="http://www.tribalogic.net/" target="_blank">http://www.tribalogic.net/</a><br>
+Open Source:<br>
+  Mageia Contributor <a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/</a><br>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <a href="http://www.pulseaudio.org/" target="_blank">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</a><br>
+  Trac Hacker <a href="http://trac.edgewall.org/" target="_blank">http://trac.edgewall.org/</a><br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br>