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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Yes, I know. The question was: do they have those patented software<br>
+within the same repo as all the other software or do they have an<br>
+extra repo for that.<br>
+<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+wobo<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><ul><li><p class="line891"><strong>Main</strong> - Officially supported software. <span class="anchor" id="line-16"></span></p></li><li><p class="line891"><strong>Restricted</strong> - Supported software that is not available under a completely free license. <span class="anchor" id="line-17"></span></p>
+</li><li><p class="line891"><strong>Universe</strong> - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported software. <span class="anchor" id="line-18"></span></p></li><li><p class="line891"><strong>Multiverse</strong> - Software that is not free. </p>
+</li></ul>This should answer this question. This is the default layout of Ubuntu.<br><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Yes, I know. The question was: do they have those patented software<br>
+within the same repo as all the other software or do they have an<br>
+extra repo for that.<br>
+<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+wobo<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br clear="all"><ul><li><p class="line891"><strong>Main</strong> - Officially supported software. <span class="anchor" id="line-16"></span></p></li><li><p class="line891"><strong>Restricted</strong> - Supported software that is not available under a completely free license. <span class="anchor" id="line-17"></span></p>
+</li><li><p class="line891"><strong>Universe</strong> - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported software. <span class="anchor" id="line-18"></span></p></li><li><p class="line891"><strong>Multiverse</strong> - Software that is not free. </p>
+</li></ul>This should answer this question. This is the default layout of Ubuntu.<br><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/8 Mika Laitio <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lamikr@pilppa.org">lamikr@pilppa.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">&gt; &gt; &gt; &#39;Grayzone&#39; ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Mr. Dorian Gray&#39;s zone? Or a foggy grey zone?<br>
+&gt; &gt; (SCNR!)<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Hmm, &quot;foggy&quot; sounds nice :)<br>
+&gt; &gt; Or Foggy Bottom :)<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; Better than &quot;tainted&quot; :D<br>
+<br>
+</div>I like from tainted as that term is already somehow known,<br>
+<br>
+Another alternative that came to my mind would be &quot;challenge&quot; as patents<br>
+could be challenged...<br>
+<br>
+Or maybe &quot;soap&quot; or &quot;slippery&quot; to explain the uncertainty of<br>
+possible patents included packages.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Mika<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br><div>If we have &quot;cauldron&quot; associated with sorcerers and like why not &quot;swamp&quot; as somehow treacherous feature of landscape where you can never be quite sure?</div><div><br>
+</div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/8 Mika Laitio <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lamikr@pilppa.org">lamikr@pilppa.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="im">&gt; &gt; &gt; &#39;Grayzone&#39; ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Mr. Dorian Gray&#39;s zone? Or a foggy grey zone?<br>
+&gt; &gt; (SCNR!)<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Hmm, &quot;foggy&quot; sounds nice :)<br>
+&gt; &gt; Or Foggy Bottom :)<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; Better than &quot;tainted&quot; :D<br>
+<br>
+</div>I like from tainted as that term is already somehow known,<br>
+<br>
+Another alternative that came to my mind would be &quot;challenge&quot; as patents<br>
+could be challenged...<br>
+<br>
+Or maybe &quot;soap&quot; or &quot;slippery&quot; to explain the uncertainty of<br>
+possible patents included packages.<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Mika<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br><div>If we have &quot;cauldron&quot; associated with sorcerers and like why not &quot;swamp&quot; as somehow treacherous feature of landscape where you can never be quite sure?</div><div><br>
+</div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because<br>
+they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for<br>
+Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora?<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>In Ubuntu you have some patented software in the repos. For example if you try to install Ubuntu 10.10 you get asked if you want to install some 3rd party codecs such as the codec for MP3 during the install process!!!<br>
+3rd party drivers like the ones from AMD or NVIDIA are included as well as some firmware drivers (i never got any problems using my hardware, Debian is more restricted at this point).<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br>
+<br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+Oh, really? Some (like Mandriva) do not have such a repository because<br>
+they do not distribute such software at all, PLF does that for<br>
+Mandriva. What about Ubuntu? What about Fedora?<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br>In Ubuntu you have some patented software in the repos. For example if you try to install Ubuntu 10.10 you get asked if you want to install some 3rd party codecs such as the codec for MP3 during the install process!!!<br>
+3rd party drivers like the ones from AMD or NVIDIA are included as well as some firmware drivers (i never got any problems using my hardware, Debian is more restricted at this point).<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br>
+<br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br>