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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2c348cc5e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">agree, thanks for answering.</span></span><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vfmbofh@gmail.com">vfmbofh@gmail.com</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheusslima@yahoo.com.br" target="_blank">matheusslima@yahoo.com.br</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5"> +<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Hi!<br><br>Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.<br><br>Regards,<br>Matheus<br> + +<br></td></tr></tbody></table><br> + + + + <br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div>Hi, matheus.<div><br></div><div>Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php" target="_blank">mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</a></div> + +<div><br></div><div>Cheers and welcome aboard!</div> +<br>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2c348cc5e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/0654d520/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<span id="result_box" class="short_text"><span style="" title="">agree, thanks for answering.</span></span><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vfmbofh@gmail.com">vfmbofh@gmail.com</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheusslima@yahoo.com.br" target="_blank">matheusslima@yahoo.com.br</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5"> +<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">Hi!<br><br>Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.<br><br>Regards,<br>Matheus<br> + +<br></td></tr></tbody></table><br> + + + + <br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div>Hi, matheus.<div><br></div><div>Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php" target="_blank">mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</a></div> + +<div><br></div><div>Cheers and welcome aboard!</div> +<br>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db6e58f99 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +Although Ubuntu's target description suits me well, I think, it did not catch me. Their palette is in colors of my home, but un my top box I need to have somethinng geek, shiny, cool, sci-fi, strong, aggressive...<br>That's why I do prefer an orb as logo, because it is so versatile. The shape, materials, the symbols. Easy to remember. But I guess it is taken... Is it?<br> +Ubuntu failed miserably in my case... In look and stability. I think it is of a good marketing though.<br>Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Graham Lauder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yorick_@openoffice.org">yorick_@openoffice.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of<br> +work.  Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that<br> +they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to<br> +pallett.  If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it<br> +can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever<br> +changing looks that confuses the market.<br> +<br> +The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised.  Until then<br> +everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title".<br> +<br> +So therefore:<br> +<br> +We need to identify our vision,<br> +Identify the way we want the world to see us.<br> +We need to identify our target market<br> +and then come up with a Brand to suit that market.<br> +<br> +The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first<br> +release.<br> +The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all time.<br> +The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good.  Hackers need<br> +the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making code<br> +is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere.  It's the same with marketers,<br> +give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it.<br> +<br> +Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age<br> +group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and Yellows)<br> +and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on)  They<br> +identified a market of young people of  above average intelligence who were<br> +not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market<br> +leader.<br> +<br> +This group had several advantageous facets to them.<br> +1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology<br> +2) They were rebellious to a degree<br> +3) They had a very positive view of themselves<br> +4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do<br> +stuff for them.<br> +<br> +So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very successfully.<br> +<br> +The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a<br> +branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market.<br> +And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of<br> +developers is because of it's wide user base.  That makes it sexy, the<br> +opportunity to be famous:  "I am part of that.."<br> +<br> +Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for<br> +all of the above reasons.<br> +<br> +We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things.<br> +<br> +They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give<br> +them a name and a story:  Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that reflects<br> +and enhances that story.<br> +<br> +For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in it's<br> +Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva.<br> +<br> +Connection,<br> +Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about<br> +South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango.  If it was my project<br> +in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even<br> +immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery<br> +Reds  and silvers, the colours of passion.  Tango evokes passion, rebellion<br> +but at the same time precision and teamwork.<br> +<br> +Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon<br> +project, but you get the idea.<br> +<br> +<br> +To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration given<br> +to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and the<br> +like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, we<br> +are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we need<br> +to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals.<br> +<br> +Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player in<br> +the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I knew<br> +back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it was<br> +going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and<br> +Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine.  Personally I think that<br> +spirit is still there.<br> +<br> +<br> +--<br> +Graham Lauder,<br> +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ<br> +<a href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html" target="_blank">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</a><br> +<br> +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.<br> +<br> +INGOTs Assessor Trainer<br> +(International Grades in Open Technologies)<br> +<a href="http://www.theingots.org" target="_blank">www.theingots.org</a><br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db6e58f99 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +Although Ubuntu's target description suits me well, I think, it did not catch me. Their palette is in colors of my home, but un my top box I need to have somethinng geek, shiny, cool, sci-fi, strong, aggressive...<br>That's why I do prefer an orb as logo, because it is so versatile. The shape, materials, the symbols. Easy to remember. But I guess it is taken... Is it?<br> +Ubuntu failed miserably in my case... In look and stability. I think it is of a good marketing though.<br>Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Graham Lauder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yorick_@openoffice.org">yorick_@openoffice.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of<br> +work.  Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that<br> +they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to<br> +pallett.  If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it<br> +can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever<br> +changing looks that confuses the market.<br> +<br> +The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised.  Until then<br> +everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title".<br> +<br> +So therefore:<br> +<br> +We need to identify our vision,<br> +Identify the way we want the world to see us.<br> +We need to identify our target market<br> +and then come up with a Brand to suit that market.<br> +<br> +The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first<br> +release.<br> +The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all time.<br> +The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good.  Hackers need<br> +the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making code<br> +is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere.  It's the same with marketers,<br> +give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it.<br> +<br> +Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age<br> +group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and Yellows)<br> +and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on)  They<br> +identified a market of young people of  above average intelligence who were<br> +not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market<br> +leader.<br> +<br> +This group had several advantageous facets to them.<br> +1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology<br> +2) They were rebellious to a degree<br> +3) They had a very positive view of themselves<br> +4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do<br> +stuff for them.<br> +<br> +So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very successfully.<br> +<br> +The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a<br> +branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market.<br> +And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of<br> +developers is because of it's wide user base.  That makes it sexy, the<br> +opportunity to be famous:  "I am part of that.."<br> +<br> +Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for<br> +all of the above reasons.<br> +<br> +We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things.<br> +<br> +They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give<br> +them a name and a story:  Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that reflects<br> +and enhances that story.<br> +<br> +For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in it's<br> +Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva.<br> +<br> +Connection,<br> +Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about<br> +South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango.  If it was my project<br> +in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even<br> +immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery<br> +Reds  and silvers, the colours of passion.  Tango evokes passion, rebellion<br> +but at the same time precision and teamwork.<br> +<br> +Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon<br> +project, but you get the idea.<br> +<br> +<br> +To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration given<br> +to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and the<br> +like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, we<br> +are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we need<br> +to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals.<br> +<br> +Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player in<br> +the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I knew<br> +back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it was<br> +going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and<br> +Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine.  Personally I think that<br> +spirit is still there.<br> +<br> +<br> +--<br> +Graham Lauder,<br> +OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ<br> +<a href="http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html" target="_blank">http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html</a><br> +<br> +OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.<br> +<br> +INGOTs Assessor Trainer<br> +(International Grades in Open Technologies)<br> +<a href="http://www.theingots.org" target="_blank">www.theingots.org</a><br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/4932caa5/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/4932caa5/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..059416bd9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/4932caa5/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Jan Gehring <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jan.gehring@gmail.com">jan.gehring@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +Hi all,<br> +<br> +i'm happy to see this project to create a community driven "mandriva"<br> +distribution.<br> +<br> +I'm a perl, php developer and linux system engineer (mainly focused on<br> +apache/tomcat, xen/openvz and clustering)<br> +<br> +If you need someone for your perl, php, tomcat or xen/openvz team to<br> +package, test or develop please let me know how i can help.<br> +<br> +Cheers,<br> +<br> +Jan<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div><br>Hi, Jan.<br><br>Please, go to mageia wiki (<a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</a>) and add your name in the categories you think can help.<br><br>Welcome aboard!<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/4932caa5/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/4932caa5/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..059416bd9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/4932caa5/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Jan Gehring <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jan.gehring@gmail.com">jan.gehring@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +Hi all,<br> +<br> +i'm happy to see this project to create a community driven "mandriva"<br> +distribution.<br> +<br> +I'm a perl, php developer and linux system engineer (mainly focused on<br> +apache/tomcat, xen/openvz and clustering)<br> +<br> +If you need someone for your perl, php, tomcat or xen/openvz team to<br> +package, test or develop please let me know how i can help.<br> +<br> +Cheers,<br> +<br> +Jan<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div><br>Hi, Jan.<br><br>Please, go to mageia wiki (<a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</a>) and add your name in the categories you think can help.<br><br>Welcome aboard!<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25ca3298d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">I'm just like you, and my English is worth, when I can ask, we will be vigilant.</span></span><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheusslima@yahoo.com.br">matheusslima@yahoo.com.br</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"> +Hi!<br><br>Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.<br><br>Regards,<br>Matheus<br><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br> + + + + <br>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25ca3298d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +<span id="result_box" class=""><span style="" title="">I'm just like you, and my English is worth, when I can ask, we will be vigilant.</span></span><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheusslima@yahoo.com.br">matheusslima@yahoo.com.br</a>></span><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"> +Hi!<br><br>Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.<br><br>Regards,<br>Matheus<br><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br> + + + + <br>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..67b28d5e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com">ennael1@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +Hi all<br> +<br> +News on our messy kitchen available below :)<br> +<a href="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18" target="_blank">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</a><br> +<br> +(other languages coming soon)<br> +<br> +As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we<br> +can start very soon.<br> +As a reminder, you can register on <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki</a> if you wish<br> +to contribute or have a look on <a href="http://donation.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://donation.mageia.org</a> to help<br> +Mageia project.<br> +<br> +Thanks again for your support<br> +Cheers!<br> +<br> +-------<br> +Anne<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div><br>I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation<br><br>Cheers<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..67b28d5e6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/6e1c1a21/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,24 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com">ennael1@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +Hi all<br> +<br> +News on our messy kitchen available below :)<br> +<a href="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18" target="_blank">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</a><br> +<br> +(other languages coming soon)<br> +<br> +As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we<br> +can start very soon.<br> +As a reminder, you can register on <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki</a> if you wish<br> +to contribute or have a look on <a href="http://donation.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://donation.mageia.org</a> to help<br> +Mageia project.<br> +<br> +Thanks again for your support<br> +Cheers!<br> +<br> +-------<br> +Anne<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</blockquote></div><br>I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation<br><br>Cheers<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1b21c9bac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +IMHO, Graham is good. He convinced me.<br>Please, don't shoot me for bringing the idea of renaming in discussion.<br>My experience as software developer tells me that chosing wrong in the beginning comes with great suffer after and might be harder and harder to fix it.<br> +What is the target of Mageia after all? And who?<br>Me, only me, I like to think of Mageia as a fine trick of Babylon 5 Technomages.<br>I would like to see it full of high tech references, less mystique, more technical metaphors - I prefer an orb split two revealing circuits, than witches. I've always liked to look forward, into space age, rather than middle ages.<br> +But this is just me AFAIK...<br>And I love Mandriva as final product, so I fully trust its core developers that forked Mageia. I watched them for years and I feel about them as they are my friends. Please don't seed the discontent now, from the beginning. It was enough Mandriva's story.<br> +No matter the name - you might change it again or not - I will follow.<br><br>Mike,<br>user.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1b21c9bac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +IMHO, Graham is good. He convinced me.<br>Please, don't shoot me for bringing the idea of renaming in discussion.<br>My experience as software developer tells me that chosing wrong in the beginning comes with great suffer after and might be harder and harder to fix it.<br> +What is the target of Mageia after all? And who?<br>Me, only me, I like to think of Mageia as a fine trick of Babylon 5 Technomages.<br>I would like to see it full of high tech references, less mystique, more technical metaphors - I prefer an orb split two revealing circuits, than witches. I've always liked to look forward, into space age, rather than middle ages.<br> +But this is just me AFAIK...<br>And I love Mandriva as final product, so I fully trust its core developers that forked Mageia. I watched them for years and I feel about them as they are my friends. Please don't seed the discontent now, from the beginning. It was enough Mandriva's story.<br> +No matter the name - you might change it again or not - I will follow.<br><br>Mike,<br>user.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6cae4d613 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vfmbofh@gmail.com">vfmbofh@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com" target="_blank">ennael1@gmail.com</a>></span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + +Hi all<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<br> +News on our messy kitchen available below :)<br> +<a href="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18" target="_blank">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</a><br> +<br> +(other languages coming soon)<br> +<br> +As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we<br> +can start very soon.<br> +As a reminder, you can register on <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki</a> if you wish<br> +to contribute or have a look on <a href="http://donation.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://donation.mageia.org</a> to help<br> +Mageia project.<br> +<br> +Thanks again for your support<br> +Cheers!<br> +<br> +-------<br> +Anne<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br>I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation<br><br>Cheers<br> +</blockquote></div><br>Hi again.<br><br>Here's the spanish translation, courtesy of MDKTrans:<br>------------------------------------------------<br>¡Atención, atención!<br> +<br> +Ahora que el anuncio ha sido un gran éxito, las discusiones ya están<br> +en curso en las listas de correo (una vez mas, todos ustedes son<br> +increÃbles, chicos), ahora necesitamos establecer bases sólidas para<br> +Mageia. Veremos cada uno de estos puntos con mayor detalle, pero aquÃ<br> +va un resumen:<br> +<br> +Infraestructura y herramientas<br> +<br> +Establecer una infraestructura es una de las cosas más importantes. Ha<br> +comenzado con el uso de recursos temporales para tener en linea los<br> +servicios principales lo más pronto posible:<br> +<br> +El blog de Mageia se puso en linea ayer (sólo en inglés por el<br> +momento, configuraremos otros idiomas muy pronto)<br> +<br> +Se ha abierto un wiki temporal para ayudar a todos a registrarse en<br> +diversos equipos; estos equipos tendrán listas de correo dedicadas.<br> +para comenzar, deberán nombrar un representante + un delegado y luego<br> +podrán comenzar a trabajar en las distintas tareas (ver mas abajo).<br> +<br> +Los foros de usuario también están en camino - tendremos un foro<br> +oficial en inglés, junto con enlaces a foros regionales los cuales ya<br> +están activos y listos para dar la bienvenida a usuarios de distintos<br> +paÃses (Blogdrake, mandrivausers-de, LKO...). Si cree que un idioma no<br> +está representado en alguno de los foros existentes, por favor<br> +envÃenos un correo a mageia-contact EN <a href="http://gmai.com/" target="_blank">gmai.com</a> para que podamos<br> +añadir por ahora, un nuevo espacio en el(los) servidor(es) de Mageia.<br> +Agradecemos especialmente a Paul Willard y Raphael Jador quienes<br> +liderarán esta ardua labor.<br> +<br> +También tenemos diversas propuestas para los mirrors de Mageia<br> +<br> +Las dicusiones están en curso y estamos trabajando en establecer el<br> +sistema de construcción; ese será el mayor hito técnico para todos<br> +nosotros, el cual nos permitirá comenzar a trabajar en la distribución<br> +propiamente tal.<br> +<br> +<br> +Logo<br> +<br> +¡Necesitamos un logo (y uno fabuloso) y un diseño global para Mageia!<br> +<br> +Ya hemos redactado un borrador con algunas guÃas de estilo del logo<br> +(por favor, revisarlas cuidadosamente) y encontrarán las diversas<br> +propuestas en esta galerÃa. Siéntase libre de enviar nuevos diseños o<br> +comentarios sobre los existentes.<br> +<br> +<br> +Organización<br> +<br> +Conitnuamos trabajando en la creación de una asociación para Mageia.<br> +Esto nos permitirá contar con una junta oficial al frente del proyecto<br> +para conseguir finaciamiento, para solicitar diferentes tipos de ayuda<br> +y para ser capaces de garantizar el futuro de Mageia.<br> +<br> +Los estatutos aún están siendo escritos (en francés) y el concejo<br> +fundador deberÃa constituirse pronto (esperamos que sea equilibrado y<br> +eficaz, aunque especÃficamente dedicado a tareas de fundación; las<br> +elecciones de renovación por parte de terceros iniciará mas tarde).<br> +Esta junta dirigirá la cocina, coordinando con los delegados de cada<br> +equipo la conducción de los diversos aspectos de la distribución<br> +(diseño, desarrollo, pruebas, producción, distribución, promoción,<br> +etc.) en adelante.<br> +<br> +Aún tenemos muchas preguntas sin respuesta para las cuales nos<br> +gustarÃa contar con más puntos de vista y opiniones antes de tomar una<br> +decisión final. Detallaremos nuestra idea sobre las funciones de la<br> +organización en próximas publicaciones y recogeremos consejos sobre<br> +puntos concretos antes de decidir que hacer.<br> +<br> +Oh, mientras tanto pueden efectuar donaciones mediante Paypal y/o<br> +transferencia bancaria. La finaciación es fundamental para poder<br> +montar una infraestructura independiente y otros elementos necesarios.<br> +<br> +Finalmente, ya contamos con muchos contactos de las otras comunidades<br> +alrededor de Mandriva. Unity Linux ya está tomando una muy activa<br> +participación en las discusiones. Otros son bienvenidos a unirse:<br> +simplemente contáctennos en IRC, por listas de correo o por el correo<br> +personal.<br> +<br> +¡De nuevo, estamos muy agradecidos por el apoyo!<br>----------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Cheers,<br>vfmBOFH<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..6cae4d613 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8e7aac3c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vfmbofh@gmail.com">vfmbofh@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ennael1@gmail.com" target="_blank">ennael1@gmail.com</a>></span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + +Hi all<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<br> +News on our messy kitchen available below :)<br> +<a href="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18" target="_blank">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18</a><br> +<br> +(other languages coming soon)<br> +<br> +As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we<br> +can start very soon.<br> +As a reminder, you can register on <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki</a> if you wish<br> +to contribute or have a look on <a href="http://donation.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://donation.mageia.org</a> to help<br> +Mageia project.<br> +<br> +Thanks again for your support<br> +Cheers!<br> +<br> +-------<br> +Anne<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br>I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation<br><br>Cheers<br> +</blockquote></div><br>Hi again.<br><br>Here's the spanish translation, courtesy of MDKTrans:<br>------------------------------------------------<br>¡Atención, atención!<br> +<br> +Ahora que el anuncio ha sido un gran éxito, las discusiones ya están<br> +en curso en las listas de correo (una vez mas, todos ustedes son<br> +increÃbles, chicos), ahora necesitamos establecer bases sólidas para<br> +Mageia. Veremos cada uno de estos puntos con mayor detalle, pero aquÃ<br> +va un resumen:<br> +<br> +Infraestructura y herramientas<br> +<br> +Establecer una infraestructura es una de las cosas más importantes. Ha<br> +comenzado con el uso de recursos temporales para tener en linea los<br> +servicios principales lo más pronto posible:<br> +<br> +El blog de Mageia se puso en linea ayer (sólo en inglés por el<br> +momento, configuraremos otros idiomas muy pronto)<br> +<br> +Se ha abierto un wiki temporal para ayudar a todos a registrarse en<br> +diversos equipos; estos equipos tendrán listas de correo dedicadas.<br> +para comenzar, deberán nombrar un representante + un delegado y luego<br> +podrán comenzar a trabajar en las distintas tareas (ver mas abajo).<br> +<br> +Los foros de usuario también están en camino - tendremos un foro<br> +oficial en inglés, junto con enlaces a foros regionales los cuales ya<br> +están activos y listos para dar la bienvenida a usuarios de distintos<br> +paÃses (Blogdrake, mandrivausers-de, LKO...). Si cree que un idioma no<br> +está representado en alguno de los foros existentes, por favor<br> +envÃenos un correo a mageia-contact EN <a href="http://gmai.com/" target="_blank">gmai.com</a> para que podamos<br> +añadir por ahora, un nuevo espacio en el(los) servidor(es) de Mageia.<br> +Agradecemos especialmente a Paul Willard y Raphael Jador quienes<br> +liderarán esta ardua labor.<br> +<br> +También tenemos diversas propuestas para los mirrors de Mageia<br> +<br> +Las dicusiones están en curso y estamos trabajando en establecer el<br> +sistema de construcción; ese será el mayor hito técnico para todos<br> +nosotros, el cual nos permitirá comenzar a trabajar en la distribución<br> +propiamente tal.<br> +<br> +<br> +Logo<br> +<br> +¡Necesitamos un logo (y uno fabuloso) y un diseño global para Mageia!<br> +<br> +Ya hemos redactado un borrador con algunas guÃas de estilo del logo<br> +(por favor, revisarlas cuidadosamente) y encontrarán las diversas<br> +propuestas en esta galerÃa. Siéntase libre de enviar nuevos diseños o<br> +comentarios sobre los existentes.<br> +<br> +<br> +Organización<br> +<br> +Conitnuamos trabajando en la creación de una asociación para Mageia.<br> +Esto nos permitirá contar con una junta oficial al frente del proyecto<br> +para conseguir finaciamiento, para solicitar diferentes tipos de ayuda<br> +y para ser capaces de garantizar el futuro de Mageia.<br> +<br> +Los estatutos aún están siendo escritos (en francés) y el concejo<br> +fundador deberÃa constituirse pronto (esperamos que sea equilibrado y<br> +eficaz, aunque especÃficamente dedicado a tareas de fundación; las<br> +elecciones de renovación por parte de terceros iniciará mas tarde).<br> +Esta junta dirigirá la cocina, coordinando con los delegados de cada<br> +equipo la conducción de los diversos aspectos de la distribución<br> +(diseño, desarrollo, pruebas, producción, distribución, promoción,<br> +etc.) en adelante.<br> +<br> +Aún tenemos muchas preguntas sin respuesta para las cuales nos<br> +gustarÃa contar con más puntos de vista y opiniones antes de tomar una<br> +decisión final. Detallaremos nuestra idea sobre las funciones de la<br> +organización en próximas publicaciones y recogeremos consejos sobre<br> +puntos concretos antes de decidir que hacer.<br> +<br> +Oh, mientras tanto pueden efectuar donaciones mediante Paypal y/o<br> +transferencia bancaria. La finaciación es fundamental para poder<br> +montar una infraestructura independiente y otros elementos necesarios.<br> +<br> +Finalmente, ya contamos con muchos contactos de las otras comunidades<br> +alrededor de Mandriva. Unity Linux ya está tomando una muy activa<br> +participación en las discusiones. Otros son bienvenidos a unirse:<br> +simplemente contáctennos en IRC, por listas de correo o por el correo<br> +personal.<br> +<br> +¡De nuevo, estamos muy agradecidos por el apoyo!<br>----------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Cheers,<br>vfmBOFH<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/90af67f9/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/90af67f9/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..59361dc2c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/90af67f9/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Marc Paré <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +I think in the grand scheme of things, we should all acknowledge that should the name "Mageia" not work, that a name change would be a possibility, just as a logo change is still a possibility. We have seen this from many OSS firms who went through this process.<br> + +<br> +We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" in looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the distro also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community driven distro and a commercial distro (read server). If we organise under these terms, then the choice of name, logo and branding changes.<br> + +<br> +A name and logo for the Mageia project should exude a community spirit as well a professional corporate spirit. Would a business have a problem repeating "We use the Mageia distro to run our servers and our desktops."? I personally think that the name is solid in this case, whether for community or corporate use. Side note: I prefer the "soft g" sound of the name --- " Mah jay ah " (more like the French "j'ai" sound) -- it sounds classy.<br> + +<br> +So, the logo should then follow suit and exude the same feeling. It should reflect both a feeling of community as well as bear the scrutiny of corporate world. Would they feel confident in hanging our shingle (read logo) on their website's front page? I too tend to sway more towards the simple logo concept. I don't personally think that a magic wand would not work in a corporate setting, this would then limit it's use. We would then have to adopt a corporate logo. I am not sure if this would make good sense as, in a way, we would then be fragmenting the distro. A solid logo for both, in my opinion, would make the most sense.<br> +<font color="#888888"> +<br> +Marc</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<br> +<br> +<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br>I'm just a user. I totally agree, although I like to play a little.<br>I do need a sleek and serious logo/symbol to the OS I use, usually a limo, but able to deploy a super-space-age-robot-ready-to-save-the-universe-if-necessary feeling. This is what I expect. Hope I did not scared you all :D. Hugs.<br> +<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/90af67f9/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/90af67f9/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..59361dc2c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/90af67f9/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,23 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Marc Paré <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc@marcpare.com">marc@marcpare.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +I think in the grand scheme of things, we should all acknowledge that should the name "Mageia" not work, that a name change would be a possibility, just as a logo change is still a possibility. We have seen this from many OSS firms who went through this process.<br> + +<br> +We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" in looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the distro also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community driven distro and a commercial distro (read server). If we organise under these terms, then the choice of name, logo and branding changes.<br> + +<br> +A name and logo for the Mageia project should exude a community spirit as well a professional corporate spirit. Would a business have a problem repeating "We use the Mageia distro to run our servers and our desktops."? I personally think that the name is solid in this case, whether for community or corporate use. Side note: I prefer the "soft g" sound of the name --- " Mah jay ah " (more like the French "j'ai" sound) -- it sounds classy.<br> + +<br> +So, the logo should then follow suit and exude the same feeling. It should reflect both a feeling of community as well as bear the scrutiny of corporate world. Would they feel confident in hanging our shingle (read logo) on their website's front page? I too tend to sway more towards the simple logo concept. I don't personally think that a magic wand would not work in a corporate setting, this would then limit it's use. We would then have to adopt a corporate logo. I am not sure if this would make good sense as, in a way, we would then be fragmenting the distro. A solid logo for both, in my opinion, would make the most sense.<br> +<font color="#888888"> +<br> +Marc</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<br> +<br> +<br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br>I'm just a user. I totally agree, although I like to play a little.<br>I do need a sleek and serious logo/symbol to the OS I use, usually a limo, but able to deploy a super-space-age-robot-ready-to-save-the-universe-if-necessary feeling. This is what I expect. Hope I did not scared you all :D. Hugs.<br> +<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1326f99e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAkybXVAACgkQYLnIks9Cy4eeXACffgfuja46r3+M/XuY4KSBbk+e +2RkAn0nl5B0oT2wu4065hTlJFnhg9Jax +=/5+w +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1326f99e8 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/95ce556c/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAkybXVAACgkQYLnIks9Cy4eeXACffgfuja46r3+M/XuY4KSBbk+e +2RkAn0nl5B0oT2wu4065hTlJFnhg9Jax +=/5+w +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b4851b24b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +<div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Tux99 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tux99-mga@uridium.org">tux99-mga@uridium.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + +<div class="im">On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote:<br> +<br> +> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this<br> +> issue forward.<br> +><br> +> Question is WHO?<br> +<br> +</div>Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself.<br> +<br> +Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything<br> +you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should<br> +be up for debate.<br> +<br> +Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name,<br> +everything else will be on hold until then.<br> +<br> +I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to<br> +work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded<br> +spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique.<br> +<br> +So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but<br> +please don't ask for a name change.<br> +<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br>+1 for you<br>and<br>+1 for Graham<br><br>IMHO, and it has been told before, is that the name is not a problem.<br><br>The better example we have is Apple. Stories tell us that the name was a explicit decision because it was impossible to find a "good name". Althoug this story was a lie, is a good example that demonstrate that a simply name with a really good marketing is enought to grow the power of the mark.<br> + +<br>I think that we can start from Mageia, like it evoques the magic world, we can try to explain that it is that all of us are wanting: easy, eyecandy, but powerfull and sturdy.<br><br>XescoMM.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b4851b24b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/b7479476/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,32 @@ +<div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Tux99 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tux99-mga@uridium.org">tux99-mga@uridium.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> + +<div class="im">On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote:<br> +<br> +> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this<br> +> issue forward.<br> +><br> +> Question is WHO?<br> +<br> +</div>Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself.<br> +<br> +Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything<br> +you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should<br> +be up for debate.<br> +<br> +Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name,<br> +everything else will be on hold until then.<br> +<br> +I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to<br> +work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded<br> +spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique.<br> +<br> +So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but<br> +please don't ask for a name change.<br> +<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br>+1 for you<br>and<br>+1 for Graham<br><br>IMHO, and it has been told before, is that the name is not a problem.<br><br>The better example we have is Apple. Stories tell us that the name was a explicit decision because it was impossible to find a "good name". Althoug this story was a lie, is a good example that demonstrate that a simply name with a really good marketing is enought to grow the power of the mark.<br> + +<br>I think that we can start from Mageia, like it evoques the magic world, we can try to explain that it is that all of us are wanting: easy, eyecandy, but powerfull and sturdy.<br><br>XescoMM.<br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..af17b5993 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ ++100<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +I like simple logos.<br> +<br> +Simple not necesarily should be poor or ugly.<br> +<br> +Logos like Apple, Logitech, RedHat, Pepsi, eyeos, Avast, Facebook,<br> +Joomla, Opera, even Ubuntu and the "evil" Windows are simple, but look<br> +great. You can put them wherever you want and they still look good.<br> +<br> +I know, some of these logos are almost implanted in our brains because<br> +of years of marketing. Maybe that's because we see them great.<br> +<br> +But they are simple, maybe some are a little abstract. But they<br> +have... how can I call it... power?<br> +<br> +That's what we should try to achieve with Mageia's logo. Not an ugly<br> +penguin with a hat and a magic wand. You see my point?<br> +<br> +Cheers!<br> +<br> +<br> +tavillo1980<br> +<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..af17b5993 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/c7b84667/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ ++100<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com">giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> +I like simple logos.<br> +<br> +Simple not necesarily should be poor or ugly.<br> +<br> +Logos like Apple, Logitech, RedHat, Pepsi, eyeos, Avast, Facebook,<br> +Joomla, Opera, even Ubuntu and the "evil" Windows are simple, but look<br> +great. You can put them wherever you want and they still look good.<br> +<br> +I know, some of these logos are almost implanted in our brains because<br> +of years of marketing. Maybe that's because we see them great.<br> +<br> +But they are simple, maybe some are a little abstract. But they<br> +have... how can I call it... power?<br> +<br> +That's what we should try to achieve with Mageia's logo. Not an ugly<br> +penguin with a hat and a magic wand. You see my point?<br> +<br> +Cheers!<br> +<br> +<br> +tavillo1980<br> +<div><div></div><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +</div></div></blockquote></div><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f29efd8bd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAkybYScACgkQYLnIks9Cy4eXbQCdFQ+DS9doiVZE84k7xxn2ksXw +uigAoIxSLrhKTS3w8u+mI1l24Yvefv1b +=4Wvc +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f29efd8bd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/ee7ccdac/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAkybYScACgkQYLnIks9Cy4eXbQCdFQ+DS9doiVZE84k7xxn2ksXw +uigAoIxSLrhKTS3w8u+mI1l24Yvefv1b +=4Wvc +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2d4bb82fe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheusslima@yahoo.com.br">matheusslima@yahoo.com.br</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Hi!<br><br>Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.<br><br>Regards,<br>Matheus<br> +<br></td></tr></tbody></table><br> + + + +  <br>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div>Hi, matheus.<div><br></div><div>Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</a></div> +<div><br></div><div>Cheers and welcome aboard!</div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2d4bb82fe --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/fafa32e0/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matheusslima@yahoo.com.br">matheusslima@yahoo.com.br</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit">Hi!<br><br>Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.<br><br>Regards,<br>Matheus<br> +<br></td></tr></tbody></table><br> + + + +  <br>_______________________________________________<br> +Mageia-dev mailing list<br> +<a href="mailto:Mageia-dev@mageia.org">Mageia-dev@mageia.org</a><br> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev</a><br> +<br></blockquote></div>Hi, matheus.<div><br></div><div>Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php">mageia.org/wiki/doku.php</a></div> +<div><br></div><div>Cheers and welcome aboard!</div> |