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(and besides *wrong* is often quite +relative) + +to *what* you are saying i don't disagree at all... the way you say it does +come off as a bit defensive. as if you took my original message as an annoyance +and an offensive statement (which i definately didn't mean to do) + +no hard feelings... + +Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 18:51:20 schreef <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>: +><i> 1- do you think we have manpower for this ? i think not and that we have +</I>><i> more import pbs to deal with, as we have firefox requiring gtk, mcc, +</I>><i> system-config-printer, ... so kscreensaver too i don't think this is a big +</I>><i> deal +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 6- gwenview can use ALL kipi-plugins and this is a suggests, i WON'T remove +</I>><i> this never. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ----- Mail original ----- +</I>><i> De: "AL13N" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>> +</I>><i> À: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> Cc: "nicolas lecureuil" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>> +</I>><i> Envoyé: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 18:45:14 +</I>><i> Objet: Re: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i completely understand your point, i'm not saying these are packaging +</I>><i> mistakes at all. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> but for something qt, it doesn't make much sense to have gnome-keyring code, +</I>><i> except for when there would be kwallet and gnome-keyring plugins. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 1. this more that xscreensaver requires chbg (does kscreensaver use this +</I>><i> part? if not, maybe xscreensaver can be packaged separately), or chbg +</I>><i> requires gtk+ code (maybe recode would be better to be gtk/qt independant) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 6. about gwenview, does it actually use these kipi-plugins all the time? +</I>><i> does it use all of them, or just some kipi-plugins (if they are available). +</I>><i> if latter, it might be better to suggest the specific ones alone, instead +</I>><i> of all of them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> 2, i understand for skype, but it's quite the dirty solution, perhaps a +</I>><i> getter with requirements is better than just having everyone installing +</I>><i> 32deps... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this indeed is a list of links that exist that i found odd, since they could +</I>><i> be more abstract written and thus not directly link to each other. +</I>><i> Op vrijdag 4 januari 2013 18:30:35 schreef <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nicolas.lecureuil at free.fr</A>: +</I>><i> > i have not answered to all, but nothing weird at all for me here, except +</I>><i> > if +</I>><i> > you want to recode all to remove the deps you don't like. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1- xscreensaver is needed by kscreensaver, so nothing weird on the +</I>><i> > packaging side. 2- this is needed for skype, if we don't this will not +</I>><i> > work this is needed. 3- Because the code doesn't use phonon but +</I>><i> > gstreamer, complain to qtwebkit devs. ( i think i don't tell mistakes +</I>><i> > here ) 6- gwenview can use kipi-plugins so this is a suggests, this is +</I>><i> > not weird at all, this just show you write about stuff you don't know and +</I>><i> > softs you don't use ;) 7- hum this is normal. +</I>><i> > 8- this is normal this is to help to migrate windows accounts, so this is +</I>><i> > completly normal +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > ----- Mail original ----- +</I>><i> > De: "AL13N" <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>> +</I>><i> > À: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A> +</I>><i> > Envoyé: Vendredi 4 Janvier 2013 17:49:08 +</I>><i> > Objet: [Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1. KDE requires gtk+ +</I>><i> > 2. pulseaudio suggests it's i586 counterparts (plz don't) +</I>><i> > 3. qtwebkit requires gstreamer (not phonon) +</I>><i> > 4. KDE requires packagekit +</I>><i> > 5. hugin requires make +</I>><i> > 6. kipi-plugins suggested by gwenview +</I>><i> > 7. system-config-printer pulls in quite some gnome +</I>><i> > 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake +</I>><i> > 9. qtwebkit requires gnome-keyring +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > 1. kdeartwork requires xscreensaver, which requires chgb, which requires +</I>><i> > gtk+ 2. in spec file, requested for closed source 3rd party binaries that +</I>><i> > are 32bit 3. libqtwebkit requires gstreamer directly... why not phonon +</I>><i> > 4. libqtwebkit requires also gst-install-plugin-helper and requires +</I>><i> > packagekit 5. hugin directly requires make... why would a gui require a +</I>><i> > buildtool? 6. gwenview really uses all kipi-plugins? +</I>><i> > 7. gnome-icon-theme,gnome-python,gnome-python-gnomekeyring _required_ by +</I>><i> > s-c-p system-config-printer MUST have a gnome keyring? that would be +</I>><i> > odd... +</I>><i> > 8. transfugdrake required by userdrake... odd +</I>><i> > 9. qtwebkit requires soup, requires lib64gnome-keyring, suggests +</I>><i> > gnome-keyring +</I></PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="021140.html">[Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="021141.html">[Mageia-dev] weird dependencies that i've seen +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#21149">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#21149">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#21149">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#21149">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |