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I think +these are better at explaining about GNOME Classic Mode: +<A HREF="http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/25/gnome-3-7-at-the-halfway-mark/">http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/25/gnome-3-7-at-the-halfway-mark/</A> +<A HREF="http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/a-quick-look-at-new-gnome-classic.html">http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/a-quick-look-at-new-gnome-classic.html</A> +<A HREF="https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode">https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode</A> +<A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/526082/">http://lwn.net/Articles/526082/</A> +><i> Also, software 3D rendering is slow, you do not want to use it in a VM. +</I>I tried out GNOME Shell in a virtual machine first with Mageia 3 Alpha 3 +or whichever milestone version had it working like that first, since +then run in someting later to like that I think, Anyway I was rather +impressed to be able to run it in VirtualBox like that :), oh and this +was on a computer with 1GB RAM. I think I might have tried out like that +on both my desktop and netbook both 1GB RAM, anyway worked well like +that for me :). Oh sure I think it took some time to load up properly +in Virtualbox, but once done WOW :). However of course I wasn't trying +to run Blender or 3D Games or something in the vm as well. +><i> However, we may be able to keep our "GNOME Classic" session using +</I>><i> gnome-panel 3.6.x even with gnome 3.8. This would have to be tested, +</I>><i> though. +</I>I forgot to mention in my original email that maybe both the GNOME 3.6.2 +fallback mode and the new GNOME Classic mode could be used in Mageia 3. +><i> Do you even use it? +</I>I have used the fallback mode quite a few times, in Mageia, and even +the Ubuntu 12.10 GNOME Remix, however by choice I tend to run GNOME +Shell, if I am able to on the computer :). As for this new GNOME +classic mode, no I have not used that yet. +><i> +</I>><i> Shouldn't we first fix totem, for example? It has 2 menu bars: +</I>><i> "Videos" and "Movie/Edit/...". Then, audio files stop playing after 1 +</I>><i> second when "visual effects" are enabled. 5.1 channel audio also +</I>><i> doesn't work right, but the same happens in parole (vlc and mplayer do +</I>><i> proper downmixing). +</I>Personally if I am watching video on the computer it's usualy Flash +video on websites. If I am playing video in a player though, well then +that's what I am doing, I don't really care much about fancy features +when playing video, I just want my video to work picture and audio :). +Also when I do use players I tend not to use Totem, well depends. +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Finally, totem can't play WMA files because of ffmpeg 1.1. I have a +</I>><i> fix for that ready (update gstreamer1.0-libav to git HEAD) +</I>Uhmm I thought it coudn't play WMA unless the correct codec is used +since it's a proprietary format? +><i> but maybe I need to worry about gnome 3.8 instead. Such an update at +</I>><i> this time should be done properly: packaged and tested on the +</I>><i> packager's machine first, and only when it all works committed to svn +</I>><i> and uploaded. +</I>Yep that sounds good to me, have it properly done on the packagers +machine first, then have it uploaded, if this update is going to happen. +><i> But even then we will likely find new problems that need to be fixed +</I>><i> before release. +</I>Well possibly/probably sure, but since Mageia 3 is now delayed to May +3rd, that should give QA enough time to test it :). +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Christiaan +</I></PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="023116.html">[Mageia-dev] Gnome mess in Mageia SVN... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="023119.html">[Mageia-dev] Gnome mess in Mageia SVN... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#23118">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#23118">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#23118">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#23118">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |