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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Package drop request: ruby-ParseTree</H1>
+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 08/12/12 10:37 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 8. December 2012 11.06, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless I misunderstand, adding it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187; does the same thing, with a 2 week delay on deleting.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So the proper action would be to add it to &#171;task-obsolete&#187;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's still not the proper action.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In other words, I did misunderstand.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stop removing packages from end
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user machines just to remove them from the mirrors as a side effect of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our package submission procedure.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what should we do?
+</I>&gt;<i> The current packaging guidelines[1] says that this is the correct action for obsolete packages, which a depcrecated package is.
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is not the desired solution, then the guidelines should change. Perhaps just clairfied as to what is an obsolete package, which belongs in task-obsolete, and what is Not an obsolete package even if it's deprecated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
+</I>
+I totally agree with Johnny here. If users want to keep unmaintained and
+no-longer-supplied packages on their machine (obviously making a
+concious decision to not get security updates etc. on such packages)
+then they are welcome to add task-obsolete to their urpmi skip lists.
+
+I see absolutely no problem with this and I don't consider this
+something that's done as a &quot;side effect&quot;, rather it's a quite deliberate
+and concious mechanism to remove no longer supported packages from a
+users machine.
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+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
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