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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002825.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002825.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..246a6567d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002825.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20Licensing%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3C4D6AFFA0.5020105%40iki.fi%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002826.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Importing%20Licensing%20Policy&In-Reply-To=%3C4D6AFFA0.5020105%40iki.fi%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy">anssi.hannula at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 02:51:28 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002826.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2825">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2825">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2825">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2825">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 09.01.2011 01:15, Remy CLOUARD wrote: +><i> Hello, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I just started to import the Licensing policy from the Mandriva wiki. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here are notable changes: +</I>><i> +</I>[...] +><i> - adding a complete list of license names (produced by rpmlint) +</I> +This list directly contradicts the Fedora naming convention which we +use, i.e. most of the names in the list are different from the ones we +actually use. + +Also, a link to the Fedora list is missing. + +><i> Thanks in advance for reviewing this policy +</I> + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002826.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2825">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2825">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2825">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2825">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002826.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002826.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3946ed3ac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002826.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20freedesktop%20spec%20and%20categories&In-Reply-To=%3C1298913718.15719.24.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002825.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002831.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories</H1> + <B>Michael Scherer</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20freedesktop%20spec%20and%20categories&In-Reply-To=%3C1298913718.15719.24.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories">misc at zarb.org + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 18:21:58 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002825.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002831.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2826">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2826">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2826">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2826">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +</I>><i> > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > > What need to be taken in account too is also the case +</I>><i> > > > Internet => 5-7 apps. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Having : +</I>><i> > > > Internet => 5-7 submenus => 1 app entry +</I>><i> > > > is IMHO clearly suboptimal. +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a lot ). +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already have +</I>><i> > > more than 10 internet applications. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good. +</I>><i> > What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - akregator +</I>><i> - kaddressbook +</I>><i> - kmail +</I>><i> - network center (mandriva) +</I>><i> - kbluetooth +</I>><i> - kget (download manager) +</I>><i> - knetattach (= add a network +</I>><i> - knode : newsgroups reader (unless I installed it manually, not sure) +</I>><i> - konqueror +</I>><i> - kontact +</I>><i> - konversation +</I>><i> - kopete +</I>><i> - korganizer +</I>><i> - kppp +</I>><i> - krdc +</I>><i> - krfb +</I>><i> - ktorrent (unless I installed it manually) +</I>><i> - firefox +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And I agree that many of those will not be used by most people +</I> +There is some duplicate : +firefox / konqueror +kontact / korganiser / kmail / kadressboo, that somehow all overlap ( IIRC from my kde days ) +- kppp / network center / knetattach -> manage network + +><i> > +</I>><i> > > I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster, +</I>><i> > which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report +</I>><i> > were not published :/ +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > > And KDE gives you the +</I>><i> > > "recently used applications" on top of the menu, so the extra step is no +</I>><i> > > big deal. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Shall I remind that there is more than KDE in the world ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> No, because it suggests I forgot it, which is not the case :) +</I>><i> But you mean there is no such functionality in GNOME and other commonly used +</I>><i> environments ? +</I> +I never seen this on windows, ( which is still the most common used +evnironment, even if my own usage date back to xp ), neither on mac os x +( on 10.5 ). + +If there is in gnome 2, then I have disabled it long ago. And I doubt +there is on lighter desktop environment ( ie, that's why there are +light, because there is a different tradeoff between feature and memory +footprint ). I need to check with someone running lxde and xfce. + +There is something like this on gnome 3. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002825.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002831.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2826">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2826">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2826">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2826">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002827.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002827.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a2038ae72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002827.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Firefox requires + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Firefox%20requires&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimjaWv6n%3D1BjUWt9w3Q2t7xwpiDm_xL6eco3ZCF%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002832.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002829.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Firefox%20requires&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimjaWv6n%3D1BjUWt9w3Q2t7xwpiDm_xL6eco3ZCF%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 19:33:57 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002832.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002829.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2827">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2827">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2827">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2827">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>ATM firefox has: +Requires: xulrunner >= %{xulrunner_version}%{?prel:-0.%prel} + +this renders firefox unusable when xulrunner is updated, for example +*xulrunner* was updated to 2.0-0.b12, while firefox isn't available +yet on the mirrors (at the time when I updated my box). I think the +requires need to be tighter: +Requires: xulrunner = %{xulrunner_version}%{?prel:-0.%prel} + +so that firefox doesn't break on users' systems until new firefox +packages reach the mirrors. + +If no one objects I'll change the requires tomorrow. + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002832.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002829.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2827">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2827">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2827">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2827">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002828.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002828.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d4461cc6e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002828.html @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ? + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identity%20verification%20broken%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D6BEBF0.7090804%40roadrunner.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002829.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002830.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?</H1> + <B>Frank Griffin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Identity%20verification%20broken%20%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4D6BEBF0.7090804%40roadrunner.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ?">ftg at roadrunner.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 19:39:44 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002829.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002830.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2828">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2828">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2828">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2828">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>I previously registered with the Mageia identity server, but when I try +to log in, I get "incorrect user name or password" . I went through the +Reset Password process, and the server must know me because it included +my name. I entered the same password I had set previously, and it +seemed to accept it and then put up a login prompt, but when I entered +my email and the password I had just set, I got the same error. + +Known problem ? +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002829.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002830.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2828">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2828">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2828">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2828">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002829.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002829.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cdc8ae2a6 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002829.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Firefox requires + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Firefox%20requires&In-Reply-To=%3C1298918600.4694.18.camel%40tmb-laptop.supernet%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002827.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002828.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires</H1> + <B>tmb</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Firefox%20requires&In-Reply-To=%3C1298918600.4694.18.camel%40tmb-laptop.supernet%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires">tmb at iki.fi + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 19:43:20 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002827.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002828.html">[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2829">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2829">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2829">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2829">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>mån 2011-02-28 klockan 20:33 +0200 skrev Ahmad Samir: +><i> ATM firefox has: +</I>><i> Requires: xulrunner >= %{xulrunner_version}%{?prel:-0.%prel} +</I>><i> +</I>><i> this renders firefox unusable when xulrunner is updated, for example +</I>><i> *xulrunner* was updated to 2.0-0.b12, while firefox isn't available +</I>><i> yet on the mirrors (at the time when I updated my box). I think the +</I>><i> requires need to be tighter: +</I>><i> Requires: xulrunner = %{xulrunner_version}%{?prel:-0.%prel} +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so that firefox doesn't break on users' systems until new firefox +</I>><i> packages reach the mirrors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If no one objects I'll change the requires tomorrow. +</I>><i> +</I> +Yeah, +it needs strict requires to work, so go ahead. + +-- +Thomas + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002827.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002828.html">[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2829">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2829">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2829">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2829">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002830.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002830.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..17a0424d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002830.html @@ -0,0 +1,68 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Problem%20with%20monitor%20brightness&In-Reply-To=%3C4D6BFC30.2050105%40yahoo.it%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002828.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness</H1> + <B>Matteo</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Problem%20with%20monitor%20brightness&In-Reply-To=%3C4D6BFC30.2050105%40yahoo.it%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness">svobodi at yahoo.it + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 20:49:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002828.html">[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2830">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2830">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2830">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2830">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi all, +I'm experiencing a problem at the login: the monitor brightness is too +low and I can see window "ghost" only. No keyboard keys combinations +(Fn+Brightness[+/-]) works. +Restarting kdm (service dm restart) seems to solve the problem, but +after a restart I'm still at the starting point. +I'm on a hyunday as26 laptop, video card Unichrome S3 shared memory. +Any tips? +-- +Matteo + +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002828.html">[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ? +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2830">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2830">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2830">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2830">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002831.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002831.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2c62e309c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002831.html @@ -0,0 +1,131 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20freedesktop%20spec%20and%20categories&In-Reply-To=%3C201102282302.30749.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002826.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002832.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20freedesktop%20spec%20and%20categories&In-Reply-To=%3C201102282302.30749.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Feb 28 23:02:30 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002826.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002832.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2831">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2831">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2831">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2831">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le lundi 28 février 2011 18:21:58, Michael Scherer a écrit : +><i> Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +</I>><i> > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +</I>><i> > > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit : +</I>><i> > > > > What need to be taken in account too is also the case +</I>><i> > > > > Internet => 5-7 apps. +</I>><i> > > > > +</I>><i> > > > > Having : +</I>><i> > > > > Internet => 5-7 submenus => 1 app entry +</I>><i> > > > > is IMHO clearly suboptimal. +</I>><i> > > > > +</I>><i> > > > > ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a +</I>><i> > > > > lot ). +</I>><i> > > > +</I>><i> > > > Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already +</I>><i> > > > have more than 10 internet applications. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good. +</I>><i> > > What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > - akregator +</I>><i> > - kaddressbook +</I>><i> > - kmail +</I>><i> > - network center (mandriva) +</I>><i> > - kbluetooth +</I>><i> > - kget (download manager) +</I>><i> > - knetattach (= add a network +</I>><i> > - knode : newsgroups reader (unless I installed it manually, not sure) +</I>><i> > - konqueror +</I>><i> > - kontact +</I>><i> > - konversation +</I>><i> > - kopete +</I>><i> > - korganizer +</I>><i> > - kppp +</I>><i> > - krdc +</I>><i> > - krfb +</I>><i> > - ktorrent (unless I installed it manually) +</I>><i> > - firefox +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > And I agree that many of those will not be used by most people +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is some duplicate : +</I>><i> firefox / konqueror +</I>><i> kontact / korganiser / kmail / kadressboo, that somehow all overlap ( IIRC +</I>><i> from my kde days ) - kppp / network center / knetattach -> manage network +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > > I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster, +</I>><i> > > which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report +</I>><i> > > were not published :/ +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > > And KDE gives you the +</I>><i> > > > "recently used applications" on top of the menu, so the extra step is +</I>><i> > > > no big deal. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Shall I remind that there is more than KDE in the world ? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > No, because it suggests I forgot it, which is not the case :) +</I>><i> > But you mean there is no such functionality in GNOME and other commonly +</I>><i> > used environments ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I never seen this on windows, ( which is still the most common used +</I>><i> evnironment, even if my own usage date back to xp ), neither on mac os x +</I>><i> ( on 10.5 ). +</I> +Well, for windows I think you just didn't see it :) +"Commonly used programs are automatically displayed in the left-hand menu" +<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_menu#Evolution_of_the_Start_Menu">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_menu#Evolution_of_the_Start_Menu</A> + +I think I had that functionality already in windows 98 (but that could be a +false memory, I don't guarantee). + +Samuel +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002826.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002832.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2831">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2831">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2831">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2831">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002832.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002832.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a4ed7c6fd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/002832.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20freedesktop%20spec%20and%20categories&In-Reply-To=%3C1298933038.22631.3.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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+</A><A NAME="2828"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002825.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy +</A><A NAME="2825"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="002830.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness +</A><A NAME="2830"> </A> +<I>Matteo +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Feb 28 23:43:58 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Feb 28 23:44:01 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/thread.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5232ef80 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110228/thread.html @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-dev 28 February 2011 Archive by thread</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>28 February 2011 Archives by thread</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Feb 28 02:51:28 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Feb 28 23:43:58 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 8<p> + <ul> + +<!--0 01298857888- --> +<LI><A HREF="002825.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing Licensing Policy +</A><A NAME="2825"> </A> +<I>Anssi Hannula +</I> + +<!--0 01298913718- --> +<LI><A HREF="002826.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A><A NAME="2826"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01298913718-01298930550- --> +<LI><A HREF="002831.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A><A NAME="2831"> </A> +<I>Samuel Verschelde +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01298913718-01298930550-01298933038- --> +<LI><A HREF="002832.html">[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories +</A><A NAME="2832"> </A> +<I>Michael Scherer +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01298918037- --> +<LI><A HREF="002827.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A><A NAME="2827"> </A> +<I>Ahmad Samir +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01298918037-01298918600- --> +<LI><A HREF="002829.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox requires +</A><A NAME="2829"> </A> +<I>tmb +</I> + +</UL> +<!--0 01298918384- --> +<LI><A HREF="002828.html">[Mageia-dev] Identity verification broken ? +</A><A NAME="2828"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--0 01298922544- --> +<LI><A HREF="002830.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with monitor brightness +</A><A NAME="2830"> </A> +<I>Matteo +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Feb 28 23:43:58 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Feb 28 23:44:01 CET 2011</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |