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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release sound-scripts-0.61-2.mga2</H1>
+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Mon Sep 19 12:06:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 19 September 2011 11:44, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Did you fixed the war against webcam another way?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this a problem of webcam mics not working if they are present during
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot? If not, can you remember the problem better?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> submit upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was
+</I>&gt;<i> that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal,
+</I>&gt;<i> built in audio system to card1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa
+</I>&gt;<i> (not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific
+</I>&gt;<i> index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve
+</I>&gt;<i> it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when
+</I>&gt;<i> PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;priority&quot; of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered
+</I>&gt;<i> so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there
+</I>&gt;<i> after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix
+</I>&gt;<i> this &quot;bug&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think
+</I>&gt;<i> it's really a matter of &quot;tough love&quot; for the non-PA case if it means we
+</I>&gt;<i> have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Opinions welcome.
+</I>
+Not all people use PA.
+We even have options in draksound in order to disable it...
+Hence we must still support the case were PA isn't around...
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