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I am +</I>><i> >>>> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have +</I>><i> >>>> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia. +</I>><i> >>>> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's +</I>><i> >>>> repositories. +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step +</I>><i> >>>> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we +</I>><i> >>>> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake, +</I>><i> >>>> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish. +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way: +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib +</I>><i> >>>> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586</A> +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in +</I>><i> >>>> this way: +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib +</I>><i> >>>> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64</A> +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>>> Cheers! +</I>><i> >>>> +</I>><i> >>> Hello +</I>><i> >>> Thanks to you... +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are : +</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/</A> +</I>><i> >>> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/</A> +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> nevertheless I could surf through your repos : +</I>><i> >>> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that +</I>><i> >>> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?) +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> :) +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages +</I>><i> >>> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party +</I>><i> >>> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for +</I>><i> >>> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others) +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful +</I>><i> >>> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free) +</I>><i> >>> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0 +</I>><i> >>> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ... +</I>><i> >>> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to +</I>><i> >>> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...) +</I>><i> >>> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it +</I>><i> >>> will be then allowed ... wait and see ! +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >>> +</I>><i> >> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted" +</I>><i> >> rpms in Mageia +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833</A> +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac +</I>><i> >> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided. +</I>><i> >> And that's really missing !!! +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos... +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Perhaps a new "non-free& tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2 +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen +</I>><i> >> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless) +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or +</I>><i> >> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with +</I>><i> >> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much +</I>><i> >> compatibility problems +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted" +</I>><i> >> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version +</I>><i> >> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core +</I>><i> >> release) +</I>><i> >> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if +</I>><i> >> provided in official updates repo +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> But... there's the : +</I>><i> >> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> +</I>><i> >> would it add other problems to this ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> >> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ? +</I>><i> >> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > A personal POV from the Mageia side -- +</I>><i> > It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo, +</I>><i> > as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such +</I>><i> packages. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted +</I>><i> > parts, so that either +</I>><i> > - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed, +</I>><i> or +</I>><i> > - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed, +</I>><i> > each in their respective current repos. +</I>><i> > Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree +</I>><i> > and "tainted". +</I>><i> That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been +</I>><i> built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted +</I>><i> and non-free :-( +</I>><i> If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and +</I>><i> stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts) +</I>><i> it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some +</I>><i> others (the list is in the bug report +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833</A>) +</I>><i> it's an aporia ! +</I>><i> I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos ! +</I>><i> only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I +</I>><i> think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia +</I>><i> files on internet. +</I>><i> plf allowed that for Mandriva ... +</I>><i> no third repo allows this for Mageia +</I>><i> If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to +</I>><i> modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba ... that's all folks! ) +</I>><i> If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they +</I>><i> better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi +</I>><i> official third repos for this problem... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > my 2 cents :-) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> my 2 λεπτες +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20111017/eebac041/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008916.html">[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008930.html">[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8925">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8925">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8925">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8925">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |