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I am +</I>>>>><i> writing to you because I would like to let you know that we have +</I>>>>><i> created a repository with a big amount of good programs for Mageia. +</I>>>>><i> Our final target is to upload all of them to the official Mageia's +</I>>>>><i> repositories. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> We are currently uploading all these packages to the Mageia's BS step +</I>>>>><i> by step, because there are few people of us to do so. Also, also we +</I>>>>><i> don't have too much time because we also take care of Blogdrake, +</I>>>>><i> Mageia's news and the translations English to Spanish. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Meanwhile, you can use and enjoy our repository in this way: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib +</I>>>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/i586</A> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> The x86_64 repository is not finished yet, but you still can add it in +</I>>>>><i> this way: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> urpmi.addmedia --wget --distrib +</I>>>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/x86_64</A> +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Cheers! +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Hello +</I>>>><i> Thanks to you... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Just one thing to correct : your repos addresses are : +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/i586/</A> +</I>>>><i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/">ftp://ftp.blogdrake.net/mageia/mageia1/free/x86_64/</A> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> nevertheless I could surf through your repos : +</I>>>><i> Some of the rpms you propose reply to rpm requests already done or that +</I>>>><i> I was going to write (reading my thoughts ?) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> :) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> First thing I must say : it's a very good idea to upload these packages +</I>>>><i> to the BS and join the packagers team instead of providing third party +</I>>>><i> repos that will soon create compatibility problems (as in the past for +</I>>>><i> Mandrake and Mandriva with Thac's or MIB or others) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The second thing is : before uploading them you will have to be careful +</I>>>><i> with the repos policy (core tainted non-free) +</I>>>><i> In your own repo, there is a problematic package : faac (and libfaac0 +</I>>>><i> libfaac-devel) which is both non-free and tainted ... +</I>>>><i> After long dicussions on the mailing list a meeting decision was not to +</I>>>><i> provide it at the moment (nor the packages built with it...) +</I>>>><i> If a non-free-&-tainted repo is created for Mageia2, in the future, it +</I>>>><i> will be then allowed ... wait and see ! +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> I was thinking about a workaround to the problem of "non-free_&_tainted" +</I>>><i> rpms in Mageia +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Some multimedia programs can't correctly handle files containing aac +</I>>><i> sound (*.aac *.mp4 *.m4a) because faac and faac-devel are not provided. +</I>>><i> And that's really missing !!! +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> They can't and won't be backported to Mageia1 official repos... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Perhaps a new "non-free& tainted" repo will exist for Mageia2 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Actually for Mageia1 Blogdrake might provide a third repo for this dozen +</I>>><i> of srpms (even if the existence of third repo is not riskless) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Picking their last spec file from Mageia, and modifying the plf or +</I>>><i> tainted conditionnal building options to allow building with +</I>>><i> faac-devel... wouldn't be too much difficult and wouldn't bring much +</I>>><i> compatibility problems +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If the version number is the same as in mageia repos, a "twisted" +</I>>><i> distsuffix would allow to "update" to them from core or tainted version +</I>>><i> (the same way as "tainted" distsuffix allows to update from a core +</I>>><i> release) +</I>>><i> and wouldn't prevent to update to a core or tainted new version later if +</I>>><i> provided in official updates repo +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But... there's the : +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317</A> +</I>>><i> would it add other problems to this ? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> But too there wouldn't exist QA for them +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> What do you think (on Mageia side and on Blogdrake side) ? +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A personal POV from the Mageia side -- +</I>><i> It could be a good way to evaluate the need for a Nonfree+Tainted repo, +</I>><i> as well as providing a ready source for those interested in such packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe another approach could be to try to separate nonfree and tainted +</I>><i> parts, so that either +</I>><i> - nonfree packages could optionally use "tainted" packages if installed, or +</I>><i> - "tainted" packages could optionally use nonfree packages if installed, +</I>><i> each in their respective current repos. +</I>><i> Which won't work if a particular component is necessarily both nonfree +</I>><i> and "tainted". +</I>That's the problem : we have already tainted packages ... they have been +built without faac-devel and don't require faac which is both tainted +and non-free :-( +If they are built with faac the binaries become non-free (not LGPL) and +stay tainted ... (they can't be splitted in parts) +it's true for avidemux, mencoder, handbrake, audiokonverter, and some +others (the list is in the bug report +<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833</A>) + it's an aporia ! +I don't want to argue again about the decision for the Mageia's repos ! +only need to find a way to get working binaries for my purpose... and I +think I'm not alone to have to work with a quasi standard for multimedia +files on internet. +plf allowed that for Mandriva ... +no third repo allows this for Mageia +If I'm alone, never mind, I know how to build my own (two lines to +modify in a spec file and => rpmbuild -ba ... that's all folks! ) +If newcomers try Mageia and has to be taught how to build a rpm, they +better will use debian or fedora or ubuntu or opensuse that have quasi +official third repos for this problem... + +><i> +</I>><i> my 2 cents :-) +</I>><i> +</I>my 2 λεπτες + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008915.html">[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008925.html">[Mageia-dev] Blogdrake repository for Mageia +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8916">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8916">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8916">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8916">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |