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I guess what I am getting at is that as long +</I>><i> as basic functionality, eg searching, add/remove and repo +</I>><i> configurations are handled by the pm and done properly, ie not causing +</I>><i> any breakage, then I feel that it is fair enough to say that more +</I>><i> advanced functions should be done on the cl, firstly because that way +</I>><i> is easier, secondly because that way encourages less breakage from +</I>><i> just point and click and see. +</I>><i> One feature of rpmdrake that i do really like is that you can +</I>><i> configure it to search by {name,description.......} this helps a lot +</I>><i> for finding software that you don't know the specifics for before +</I>><i> hand, and the only real case where a gui frontend comes into its own +</I>><i> for pm so I guess that as long as that is supported, with being able +</I>><i> to see arch, and release numbers, I am happy to have a basic pm +</I>><i> system. +</I>IIRC packagekit supports this and I think support was already in place for it, +or I might've added support for it if it wasn't, while also adding +support for some +additional "filters" (packagekit's different ways of categorizing metadata to +search through) as well. +Some of these might've been tied to Mandriva's layout and repository naming +etc. due to (current) lack of support for the necessary information to more +correctly identify this. +I'd like to look into extending the current metadata format to add +ehr.. metadata +about the metadata for this in Mandriva, the relevance of this to +Mageia of course +depends on actual interest in adopting this of course, so if anyone +has any interest +in coordinating anything and discussing this subject, this interest +should be expressed +ASAP as the changes should ideally last for a while and not frequently change. + +I see proposals of adopting the repomd xml format used by yum on Mageia's list, +for Mandriva I'm not really considering this at all as I don't really +see any real benefits, +while I clearly see drawbacks of it's regarding bloat affecting the +size and speed of +loading it, whereas for URPM the synthesis metadata is very light, +incredibly easy and +fast to load and parse. I see some issues with the additional metadata +used by urpmi that's +stored in xml though (ie. files.xml.lzma only listing all files with +no information about whether +being directory, symlink, regular file or any other attributes that +would make it more usable +for things beyond just informational purposes to user).. +I'm digressing with too lenghty discussions of matters that might not +be all that interesting +to everyone, so I guess I'll rather continue covering this on the wiki +pages in stead.. ;) + +Anyways, for packagekit, I did most of the work back in May though and +haven't touched it +much since, I guess it wouldn't hurt revisiting it, but you're likely +to be able to get around to +take a look and confirm/report any bugs/(missing) features before me +if you have the interest +yourself. +I'm personally not really using packagekit myself ATM, so I have to +rely on any potential bugs +getting reported back to me.. ;) + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008869.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008873.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8871">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8871">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8871">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8871">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |