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"stuff". ;) +</I>>>><i> >> +</I>>>><i> >> I don't know RPM internals well, the only thing that comes to my mind is +</I>>>><i> >> improved packagekit support for Mandriva / Mageia. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Don't necessarily need to know RPM internals for proposing features, +</I>>>><i> or issues you'd +</I>>>><i> like to see be solved. :) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> > Maybe also the package management related items in the Mageia 2 specs can +</I>>>><i> > be of interest: +</I>>>><i> > <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification#package_m">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification#package_m</A> +</I>>>><i> > anagement_infrastructure +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Ah, yes, most certainly. :) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I can leave some comments on your wiki, while adding what I personally +</I>>>><i> find useful and interesting to my +</I>>>><i> wiki page where I'll keep track of it's current progress (at my end at +</I>>>><i> least;). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Please note that this wiki page is readonly (don't trust the wiki if it lets +</I>>><i> you edit it). The place for discussion is bugzilla (each item should have an +</I>>><i> entry in bugzilla, even if it's not the case currently). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Best regards +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Samuel +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Improving packagekit would be great, not having a qt based package +</I>><i> manager is annoying. +</I>Yupp, you'll find several new features the urpmi backend was lacking +implemented in my branch. +Keep in mind though that packagekit is designed in a very generic way, +with the features that packagekit lacks, it's not as simple as just going +ahead and implement it in the backend, support also needs to be +implemented in the frontend as well. +And if you want some new feature making it into packagekit upstream, +you need to have some consencus on it and take other distros into +consideration as well, so there might potentially be features of rpmdrake +that will be hard, if ever to get properly implemented in packagekit +and maintained upstream.. + +In the scenario for how I'd like to see packagekit adopted for Mandriva and MPM +for instance, I'm kinda expecting having to go ahead and just +implement and maintain +some features in our own backend only that might not be part of +packagekit's features +or supported by other frontends for it etc. (at least not immediately). + +Well, that's just some thoughts I've had on the potential challenges +of packagekit +and to warn against having too high expectations towards packagekit +frontends replacing +existing ones.. :) + +Is there any particular features in the packagekit feature matrix +you're missing btw.? +('what-provides' has already been implemented in my branch </FYI>:) +><i> +</I>><i> The only other thing that I would like to see, although i think it is +</I>><i> more or a urpm issue than rpm is adding parallel downloads, so that +</I>><i> when packages are being installed, it keeps on downloading the next +</I>><i> set to be installed. +</I>Yupp, already on urpmi's suggested feature list since a while ago, +although it would have +to be implemented at a much higher level in urpmi perl code by adding +separate threads +downloading and package installation.. I'm a wuzz at perl and awaiting +for a new perl +maintainer to arrive to hand of such very perly details to implement, +so it's on the list, +but likely not to be done (in urpmi) by me. :) + +-- +Regards, +Per Øyvind +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008866.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008869.html">[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8868">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8868">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8868">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8868">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |