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+ <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist">peroyvind at mandriva.org
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+ <I>Fri Oct 14 19:14:17 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/10/14 Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Am 14.10.2011 16:19, schrieb Per &#216;yvind Karlsen:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work on and consider
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for our (Mandriva Linux) next development cycle, and in the interest
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of sharing work and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> coordinating efforts with others, while inviting others to contribute:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/TODO">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/TODO</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While it's certainly written from a vendor POV (and also rather crude
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the moment), I'm cross-posting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this one as it's of potential interest to others as well and the idea
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is for things to be as generic as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possible anyhows.. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I invite others with the interest to contribute to the discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the list and wiki, proposing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ideas, gather a list of issues that needs to be addressed, and do some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> general brainstorming
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and uhm.. &quot;stuff&quot;. ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Per &#216;yvind
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm curious, following whole RPM5 &quot;discussions&quot; over the last months/year
+</I>&gt;<i> on Cooker and also from my humble and polite POV &#160;some rather disappointing
+</I>&gt;<i> threads/answers about RPM5. Also i somehow feel sorry for jbj as he only
+</I>&gt;<i> offered his help for free and what he had to take from some people :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What would be maybe interesting to many people actually interested in RPM5,
+</I>&gt;<i> is what does it actually bring to the table for the end users? So far ACAICT
+</I>&gt;<i> from what i have observed it adds supports for ACID
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID</A>&gt;. On the other side
+</I>&gt;<i> it seems quite a bit slower in some cases, means much work for you as
+</I>&gt;<i> one of the implementers and a whole lot of work for maintainers just
+</I>&gt;<i> to keep the packages working as they did before. Yeah, there are some
+</I>&gt;<i> added benefits like notice/removal od some dependency loops but
+</I>&gt;<i> this is not something which is useful for the end user directly IMHO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So actually my main question is: What main advantages does RPM5
+</I>&gt;<i> bring and for what costs?
+</I>Ihk, my intentions was minsinterpreted in the wrong way, with both good and
+negative response.. :p
+
+I'm not advocating RPM5 here at all and need to stress again that I'm trying to
+collect ideas, issues people feel like should be addressed, or
+anything else people
+would throw in a potential TODO list for rpm in general (ignoring the
+whole fork politics
+issue) in the world of distros (initially) based on Mandriva (they're
+still more similar to
+each other than to any other distros).
+
+I've answered various questions regarding rpm5 in the past, while
+always pointing
+out that I'm not really advocating it, but merely answering peoples'
+questions, yet
+always been labelled as the-bad-guy-who-tries-to-force-rpm5-on-mageia, so for
+obvious reasons I won't go down that road again.. ;)
+
+There's been several responses answering this question in various
+aspects on cooker
+list in the past though, maybe I should collect some of them and write
+up an article on
+my blog or something about why the choice of it in rpm5 later or
+something to give some
+better overview of the situation and work put into it. (I still feel
+like pointing out that
+ACID didn't have that much to do with the adoption of it in Mandriva though)
+But it's still off-topic for this thread (and seemingly for this list
+as well;)..
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per &#216;yvind
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