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The boot took forever, and I ended up giving up, booting from a +</I>><i> LiveCD, and restoring the "sysvinit" package, which made booting the system OK +</I>><i> again. Here are the relevant logs from #systemd on Freenode (I am rindolf): +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:30:40 <rindolf> Hi all. +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:31:02 <rindolf> Today systemd-sysvinit replaced sysvinit (on my Mageia 2 system after a urpmi upgrade), but after I rebooted my system won't boot. It got hang at the udev step (the first one). I recall that when I rebooted, it warned me that it couldn't find libsystemd-daemons.so.1 or something like that. How can I restore booting? +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:45:28 <rindolf> Anyone? +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:46:37 <MK_FG> rindolf, I suspect it just hangs not being able to detect your hard drives for some reason +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:46:49 <MK_FG> rindolf, In that case, it should time out after a while +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:47:07 <MK_FG> rindolf, But in any case, it should help to enable debug output +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:47:10 <rindolf> MK_FG: well, now after I hit Ctrl+C it continues, but hangs again. +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:47:17 <rindolf> MK_FG: how can I enable debug output? +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:47:21 <MK_FG> <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems</A> +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:48:01 <MK_FG> But it's all in the mans, too, if you'll end up w/o a browser +</I>><i> Oct 13 09:49:14 <rindolf> MK_FG: I have a second computer. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:01:29 <rindolf> MK_FG: now it gets stuck on loading shorewall. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:01:36 <rindolf> MK_FG: it got stuck several times before +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:01:51 <rindolf> MK_FG: and no matter how many times I press Ctrl+C it won't stop that. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:01:59 <rindolf> MK_FG: booting is slower than ever this way. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:07 <MK_FG> It should timeout eventually +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:07 <rindolf> I thought systemd was supposed to make booting faster. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:17 <rindolf> MK_FG: "eventually" is the key word here. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:17 <sztanpet> works for me +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:38 <MK_FG> Yeah, a minute or two by default +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:38 <rindolf> sztanpet: what does work for you? +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:02:49 <sztanpet> systemd operating as expected +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:03:00 <sztanpet> but then again, i dont have your distro +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:03:20 <MK_FG> But it's abnormal behavior, something should be fixed, not timeout and be killed on every boot +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:05:48 <rindolf> sztanpet: someone once told me that "works for me" is the oldest excuse in the programmer's book. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:05:52 <rindolf> And it's not very helpful. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:06:15 <sztanpet> indeed +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:06:26 <MK_FG> Neither is unconstructive criticism like "nothing works!" +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:06:38 <rindolf> MK_FG: well, I told you what doesn't work for me. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:06:55 <MK_FG> I think you know what I mean +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:07:15 <rindolf> MK_FG: no, I don't. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:07:25 <MK_FG> Well, nevermind then ;) +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:09:50 <bochecha> rindolf, the default timeout can be 5 minutes (for services with legacy init scripts), did you wait that long? +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:16:55 <rindolf> bochecha: some of the times. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:17:20 <rindolf> bochecha: I now tried a “failsafe” boot and systemd gets stuck on an infinite "Trying to load D-Bus" loop. +</I>><i> Oct 13 10:18:29 <bochecha> possibly dbus doesn't start, and systemd tries again, and again and... ? +</I> + +Well I'm afraid that as the guys on #systemd said, it's nigh on +impossible to say what your problem actually is without more debugging etc. + +For example if you manage to get the boot to work by waiting patiently +enough then the output from systemd-analyze might point to the cause. + +I suspect to be honest that it relates to some binfmt stuff or other +modprobe setups that just ultimately stall things. + +It's obviously not a problem that affects other people other than +yourself so you have to ask yourself why your system is different, try +with a clean install and then add back your config until you find the issue. + +Col + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008832.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia 2 and systemd +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008839.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia 2 and systemd +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8833">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8833">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8833">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8833">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |