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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] msec (nail) can't send reports to local users accounts - require an MTA?</H1>
+ <B>Florian Hubold</B>
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+ <I>Mon Oct 10 16:40:59 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Am 28.09.2011 14:40, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 22.09.2011 21:37, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 22.09.2011 00:09, schrieb Luc Menut:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My own opinion is we should do both 1 and 3 in your list of options
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1/ Change the defaults in /etc/security/msec/level.* and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3/ make dma a suggest for msec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If these two changes were introduced as updates to Mageia 1 then the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> consequences would I believe be.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a/ Users with default configuration :-
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Changing the defaults in /etc/security/msec/level.* will not affect an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> existing installation unless they change their security level.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mail would go into /var/spool/mail/root instead of /root/dead.letter They
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> probably would still not see the mail because they are unlikely to know
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how to configure another user to receive roots mail. The only change they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would notice is when logging in at a root console they would see a message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> saying &quot;You have new mail&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> b/ Users who have configured a real mail address in msec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Installing dma as a require will cause these mails to actually start being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delivered. Since the user has put the real mail address in the msec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configuration we have to assume they actually want the mails to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delivered so that is a &quot;good thing&quot;. If their ISP will only accept mail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from a real MTA as mentioned by Frank Griffin then the message will not be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delivered unless a relay host is defined in dma. Since they are already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not being delivered nothing will have changed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> c/ New users of Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Changing the defaults in /etc/security/msec/level.* will suppress emails
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other than to those users who have specifically requested them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hope that helps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Derek
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if nobody objects or sees other problem with this, i'll modify
+</I>&gt;<i> the defaults in /etc/security/msec/level.* to not send email by default
+</I>&gt;<i> and making dma a suggest for msec.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>This poses another problem:
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+On a default configuration, we would enable sending reports by installing dma with
+the msec update, but also disable sending of all reports by changing the
+default settings,
+which will apply for everybody who has not run msec-gui or configured msec
+manually.
+So this change would be quite antipodal.
+
+I'm for not changing the default to send mail to root, as this would enable
+sending of
+reports on default configurations, and change nothing for configurations where
+people
+want those reports sent by mail.
+
+Opinions, please?
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