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If not, can you remember the problem better? +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> If so, no I've not fixed, but will find an official way that we can +</I>>>>><i> submit upstream. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Whoops, it seems this conversation went off list accidentally. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> TV clarified that the problem the snd-usb-audio modprobe rule solved was +</I>>>><i> that of webcams getting the card0 slot on boot and pushing the normal, +</I>>>><i> built in audio system to card1. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> As this problem attempts to resolve the underlying limitations of alsa +</I>>>><i> (not preserving the audio device order) in a generic way (specific +</I>>>><i> index= arguments could be added to your own specific hardware to solve +</I>>>><i> it also), and considering that device order really shouldn't matter when +</I>>>><i> PulseAudio is used (it has it's own built in system for determining the +</I>>>><i> "priority" of devices when a first boot with a new user is encountered +</I>>>><i> so that the correct defaults will be picked on first boot and there +</I>>>><i> after it's the user's choice), I'm not really inclined to attempt to fix +</I>>>><i> this "bug". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> If people feel super strongly about it I can look into it, but I think +</I>>>><i> it's really a matter of "tough love" for the non-PA case if it means we +</I>>>><i> have to put in lots of crazy work arounds like this. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Opinions welcome. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Not all people use PA. +</I>>><i> We even have options in draksound in order to disable it... +</I>>><i> Hence we must still support the case were PA isn't around... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> can something be done with udev rules, like it happens with other types of +</I>><i> devices? +</I> + +I'm not sure udev rules will fix this. + +I guess we could provide some default modprobe rule that just left space +for the device 0... + +<A HREF="http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards#Reordering_the_driver_for_a_particular_card">http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards#Reordering_the_driver_for_a_particular_card</A> + +options snd slots=,snd-usb-audio + + +These rules could only be used when PA is not used (via sound profile +symlinks) + +That will probably cover most bases and if users want to have more +configuration when they do not use PA then they can write their own +modprobe rules. I'd say that's an acceptable trade off. + +WDYT? + +Col + + + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008609.html">[Mageia-dev] About gvfs-1.8 with Gnome 2.32 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008610.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release sound-scripts-0.61-2.mga2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8607">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8607">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8607">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8607">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |