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+ <B>blind Pete</B>
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+<PRE>on Sat, 1 Oct 2011 09:14
+in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel
+Samuel Verschelde wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 1 octobre 2011 00:57:35, blind Pete a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:05
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 30 september 2011 23:35:40 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le jeudi 29 septembre 2011 21:10:42, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [snip]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Also, the sooner we have backports, the less there will be external
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; third- party repos with all the problems (upgrade, support) that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; causes. There already are, don't let them too much space and rather
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; invite their packagers to backport *inside* (as long as they stay
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; within the policy of course).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [snip]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If needed, the tremendous amount of packages in Blogdrake's 3rd party
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; media shows how much backports are needed by users, whatever we as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; packagers can think of it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm still convinced that opening backports right now, using one of my 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; proposals (if I haven't overlooked a technical difficulty), would be an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; important step forward for us.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I have to agree, if opening backports brings in more packagers who are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; likely to integrate well AND bring in more users AND likely would step
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; up and maintain similar packages, we should help their effort and not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; get our community too splintered, even though updates _is_ more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; important than backports.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Potentially silly idea:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would it be worth having backports-supported and backports-unsupported,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or backports and backports-untested, or backports and backports-3rd-party?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could occasionally move things in either direction between
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supported and unsupported.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You already have them: backports and backports_testing. backports is
+</I>&gt;<i> supported, backports_testing isn't (equivalent to your backports-untested).
+</I>&gt;<i> However, packages sent to backports_testing must respect the backports policy,
+</I>&gt;<i> which is a difference with 3rd party media where we don't know what policy is
+</I>&gt;<i> applied.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+That makes sense.
+
+I imagine that it would be fairly easy to get stuff into
+Tainted Backports Testing.
+
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