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But maybe +</I>><i> > > > lax as a temporary ("a few weeks") solution until it uses the SQL +</I>><i> > > > database? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Well, is it really that necessary for a matter of some weeks to speed +</I>><i> > > up backports opening? Shouldn't we care first that sustainability of +</I>><i> > > Mageia is ensured first? +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > It's not like backports candidates will lessen workload on QA, rather +</I>><i> > > the opposite. That's my personal opinion. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Some genuine user needs can only be covered by backports per our policy, +</I>><i> > I don't see why we should wait more (already 4 months since the release +</I>><i> > of Mageia 1). QA team already said it's ready to test backports, and if +</I>><i> > we have difficulty we simply will find means to get more testers. Also, +</I>><i> > updates will still remain the priority. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Opening backports media does not mean that we will start backporting +</I>><i> > everything. But a policy has been chosen, after a loooooooooong debate, +</I>><i> > and there seems to be a simple way to open those media to package +</I>><i> > submitting. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Also, the sooner we have backports, the less there will be external +</I>><i> > third- party repos with all the problems (upgrade, support) that causes. +</I>><i> > There already are, don't let them too much space and rather invite their +</I>><i> > packagers to backport *inside* (as long as they stay within the policy +</I>><i> > of course). +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > About Mageia's sustainability, we already are working to that (QA team is +</I>><i> > operational, package adoption campaign is undergoing...), and having +</I>><i> > backports media won't prevent us from continuing. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Also, the "few weeks" is a really vague estimation, my guess is it risks +</I>><i> > to be rather months because sysadmins seem to have a big TODO list a +</I>><i> > little resources. That's why I'm proposing 2 "technically simple" ways +</I>><i> > to move forward. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Best regards +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If needed, the tremendous amount of packages in Blogdrake's 3rd party media +</I>><i> shows how much backports are needed by users, whatever we as packagers can +</I>><i> think of it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm still convinced that opening backports right now, using one of my 2 +</I>><i> proposals (if I haven't overlooked a technical difficulty), would be an +</I>><i> important step forward for us. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel +</I> +I have to agree, if opening backports brings in more packagers who are likely +to integrate well AND bring in more users AND likely would step up and +maintain similar packages, we should help their effort and not get our +community too splintered, even though updates _is_ more important than +backports. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008559.html">[Mageia-dev] Opening backports (was Re: [Mageia-sysadm] Using SQL database for youri) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#8556">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#8556">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#8556">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#8556">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |