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We need a +</I>><i> > > schedule for each cycle, that's true. Without a schedule we would +</I>><i> > > never finish anything. But how about taking 9 months only as a "nice +</I>><i> > > to meet" target, leaving us the option to set a roadmap after setting +</I>><i> > > the specs of the next release - we could then go for a 8 or 10 months +</I>><i> > > roadmap, depending on the specs. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > This is somewhat like what I had in my mind to write too, but you beat +</I>><i> > me to it :) +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > It could allow us to adapt a little for upstream releases. +</I>><i> > But should we then decide that the limit is +/- 1 month ? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> There is 2 problem : +</I>><i> - for release of what software ? +</I>><i> - what if the upstream planning is wrong, and their releases is late +</I>><i> ( as it happened when I was a trainee in Mandrakesoft, with xfree being +</I>><i> 3 months late and the distribution still shipping a broken pre release ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Obviously there will still be people complaining that "you waited 10 +</I>><i> > months... if you had extended with ~2 more weeks... "this" or "that" +</I>><i> > package would have been available too... and so on.... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, there will be. +</I>><i> So let's be realist, 9 months with +/- 1 month is just 10 months + +</I>><i> people complaining to have 10,5 months. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We will never use the -1 month, because there will always be something +</I>><i> worth waiting. +</I> +actually, the real reason would be more to plan for whatever features you're +going to implement and the time it takes to do them. if that's 8 months, it's +8 months, if that's 9 or 10months, that's what it is. + +We proved that we can take a planning and follow it through, even the last +release_critical one was solved _just_in_time_... + +imho, we need to decide now on a sort of 9month period, look at what we're +going to do, then estimating how long it takes (with enough lenience), then +make a real planning for that, and stick to it, if features are not ready, +drop those features for next release, and make sure to fix all the +release_criticals. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005567.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005577.html">[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#5576">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#5576">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#5576">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#5576">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |